Chatlog 2013-02-28

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15:08:24 <DeirdreLee> 13 telcos left
15:08:39 <bhyland> Last week's minutes, please approve: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-02-21
15:08:54 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
15:08:56 <DaveReynolds> +1
15:09:01 <fadmaa> +1
15:09:01 <gatemezi> +1
15:09:04 <bhyland> accepted, thanks
15:09:21 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
15:09:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, fadmaa (muted), BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, cygri, gatemezi (muted), james, olyerickson, DeirdreLee, DaveReynolds,
15:09:24 <Zakim> ... Mike_Pendleton, TallTed (muted), tinagheen
15:09:30 <DeirdreLee> no new members on today's call
15:09:40 <bhyland> Main page, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Main_Page
15:09:59 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman is currently updating main WG page
15:10:28 <DeirdreLee> aim is to reach mature stage for all vocabularies
15:10:39 <DeirdreLee> and deliverables
15:10:58 <DeirdreLee> at least to recommended status
15:11:17 <bhyland> Topic: ORG
15:11:47 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds: last week all issues were resolved apart from two
15:12:03 <martin_> martin_ has joined #gld
15:12:05 <DeirdreLee> ... one issue on relationships
15:12:22 <DeirdreLee> between vocabularies
15:12:41 <DeirdreLee> issue #58
15:12:46 <james> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/58
15:13:20 <DeirdreLee> agreed not to define any more specific details
15:13:40 <DeirdreLee> close issue-58
15:13:40 <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-58 Relate org:Organization to prov:Organization.
15:13:48 <TallTed>   close issue-##    notations aren't picked up thru IRC
15:14:03 <bhyland> To close it, go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/58
15:14:53 <Zakim> +??P27
15:15:10 <martin_> zakim, ??P27 is me
15:15:10 <Zakim> +martin_; got it
15:15:16 <martin_> zakim, mute me
15:15:16 <Zakim> martin_ should now be muted
15:16:16 <bhyland> ISSUE-55, ISSUE-56 and ISSUE-57 are awaiting PROV WG review.  Remain pending review
15:16:38 <DeirdreLee> Awaiting response from PROV WG
15:17:24 <cygri> ISSUE-55?
15:17:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-55 -- Use of prov:wasDerivedFrom -- pending review
15:17:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/55
15:17:29 <cygri> ISSUE-45?
15:17:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-45 -- Align treatment of registered addresses between Org and RegOrg -- pending review
15:17:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/45
15:19:08 <james> q+
15:19:13 <bhyland> Wonderful progress, thank you DaveR
15:19:16 <DeirdreLee> For ISSUE-45, On org side, there is no range constraint, just a recommendation referring to REG ORG, so there is now no inconsistency
15:19:53 <bhyland> Moving forward now to DCAT since we have Fadi and Olyerickson
15:20:00 <bhyland> See https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues?sort=product
15:21:00 <bhyland> Sandro: Point of CR is to gather implementation info
15:21:15 <james> to see just non-closed dcat issues: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2
15:21:28 <bhyland> RE: W3C transiitions, see http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html
15:21:34 <james> q?
15:21:41 <hadleybeeman> Okay, I'm also looking at http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr
15:21:44 <hadleybeeman> Thanks!
15:22:04 <james> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/5
15:22:11 <james> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/99
15:22:21 <DeirdreLee> CLOSE ACTION-99
15:22:21 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-99 Send approved draft response to PROV-O WG.
15:22:26 <DeirdreLee> CLOSE ACTION-100
15:22:26 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-100 Ask PROV-O WG for feedback on ISSUE-58.
15:22:35 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
15:22:35 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
15:23:05 <DeirdreLee> Some work remains on specification wording. Fadi is working on that
15:23:15 <bhyland> Topic: DCAT
15:23:16 <bhyland> see http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/
15:23:24 <DeirdreLee> Proposals on resolutions on remaining issues were made
15:23:25 <olyerickson> I see this proposal: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/AccessURLRedesign
15:23:32 <DeirdreLee> no comments as of yet
15:23:50 <DeirdreLee> fadmaa: will arrange telco this week to disucss dcat issues
15:23:55 <olyerickson> I thought it was fine when fadmaa proposed it during a recent call
15:24:09 <DeirdreLee> ... and to close the issues
15:24:54 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: are there any major obstaces for remaining issues?
15:24:58 <olyerickson> Q+
15:25:02 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2
15:25:06 <james> q-
15:25:11 <DeirdreLee> fadmaa: those with pending review, are close to being closed
15:25:40 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/AccessURLRedesign
15:25:52 <DeirdreLee> ... others have proposals on how to close them, with no suggestions or objection
15:25:55 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/43
15:26:21 <gatemezi> +1 for having a telco just for DCAT
15:27:07 <DeirdreLee> ... only thing that needs further discussion is the naming of certain classes, which will be discussed during telco
15:27:30 <bhyland> @Fadi, if you can address Relationship of DCAT and VoID, see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/54 that would be helpful.
15:27:31 <bhyland> q?
15:27:38 <bhyland> ack olyerickson
15:28:02 <cygri> q+
15:28:36 <DeirdreLee> olyerickson: suggests that fadmaa sends a mail itemising main problems, to try and resolve issues ahead of telco
15:28:36 <bhyland> ACTION: Fadi to itemize in an email the issues that can be readily decided via email.  Bias towards action!
15:28:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-101 - Itemize in an email the issues that can be readily decided via email.  Bias towards action! [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-03-07].
15:28:41 <bhyland> +1 olyerickson
15:28:56 <DeirdreLee> ... then the telco can just be to agree on these final decisions
15:29:19 <DeirdreLee> cygri: does not agree that these issues can be resolved via email
15:29:54 <fadmaa> I sent few emails a couple of weeks ago: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jan/0058.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jan/0051.html
15:30:04 <fadmaa> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jan/0053.html
15:30:08 <DeirdreLee> ... as all the info has already been circulated by email & wiki
15:30:18 <DeirdreLee> ... need now is to close issues and get +1s
15:30:38 <DeirdreLee> ... this formality is easier to do on a call
15:32:16 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: it's time to finalise DCAT :)
15:33:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #gld
15:33:45 <DeirdreLee> cygri: if WG participants want to have an input in DCAT issues, they should go through all existing issues, give feedback
15:33:54 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
15:33:54 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
15:34:18 <DeirdreLee> Topic: DATCUBE
15:34:28 <bhyland> See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube/index.html
15:34:39 <DeirdreLee> s/DATCUBE/DATACUBE
15:35:35 <Zakim> +??P0
15:35:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ??P0 is JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:36:17 <bhyland> ISSUE-29 see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/29
15:36:49 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds: Has added notes to ISSUE-29
15:36:49 <bhyland> ISSUE-32 see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/32
15:37:04 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
15:37:04 <Zakim> sorry, JoaoPauloAlmeida, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:37:12 <DeirdreLee> ... Editors now waiting on some feedback from list on these notes
15:37:18 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
15:37:18 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
15:37:25 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
15:37:25 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
15:37:45 <bhyland> Our goal is to get a LC out next week
15:37:57 <DeirdreLee> ... will need a vote on next Thurs' call
15:37:58 <bhyland> Need: People teed up to do a review of DataCube
15:38:26 <DeirdreLee> ... members should give feedback before next Thurs' call
15:38:51 <cygri> q+
15:38:52 <DeirdreLee> ... if there are any objections. Let Richard/Dave know in the next day or two
15:39:04 <DeirdreLee> ... otherwise it will be assumed there are no objections
15:39:37 <cygri> ISSUE-39?
15:39:37 <trackbot> ISSUE-39 -- Data Cube: Allow skos:Collections as value of qb:codeList -- open
15:39:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/39
15:39:37 <bhyland> On cygri's plate, see ISSUE-37, see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/37
15:40:15 <DeirdreLee> cygri: will review ISSUE-37, 39
15:40:37 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds had commented on all other open issues for DCAT
15:40:46 <DeirdreLee> s/DCAT/DATACUBE
15:41:01 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- current agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130228
15:41:33 <DeirdreLee> ...  any volunteer to do an editorial/content level check on the specification?
15:42:12 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: shall I shortly speak about QB UC document?
15:42:36 <BenediktKaempgen> +q
15:42:38 <DeirdreLee> Topic: REG ORG
15:42:43 <cygri> ack me
15:42:47 <DeirdreLee> Phil not on call
15:43:45 <DeirdreLee> bhyland will contact Vassilios about if he is still participating on REG ORG and in group in general
15:43:53 <DeirdreLee> Topic: Glossary
15:44:00 <bhyland> See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
15:44:20 <DeirdreLee> bhyland has made changes to glossary
15:44:52 <bhyland> Process: Ask the WG for a resolution that we're ready to publish as a Working Group Note
15:45:08 <sandro> s/Proc/ Proc/
15:45:44 <DeirdreLee> bhyland will send out an email asking members to review glossary
15:46:27 <bhyland> q?
15:46:39 <bhyland> ack BenediktKaempgen
15:46:50 <bhyland> Topic: Data Cube UC Doc
15:47:03 <bhyland> See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html
15:47:17 <hadleybeeman> q+
15:47:24 <cygri> q+
15:48:07 <DeirdreLee> BenedickKaempgen will review DATACUBE doc
15:48:14 <BenediktKaempgen> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/data-cube-ucr-20130227/index.html
15:49:02 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
15:49:10 <DeirdreLee> BenedickKaempgen: has received feedback on initial draft and now is a collection of deployments
15:49:13 <gatemezi> @bhyland re Glossary, there is some mix up in the numbers, such as 10, 10.1 or 10.55.1. Is it because you are still working on the file?
15:50:11 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
15:50:52 <DeirdreLee> ... document is pretty much stable. BenedickKaempgen asks WG to review it, so that it can be published as WG note
15:50:56 <DaveReynolds> q+
15:50:57 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:51:22 <cygri> q?
15:51:36 <Zakim> +??P0
15:51:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P0 is me
15:51:42 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
15:51:52 <bhyland> Benedikt: DataCube UC doc is in a good state & ready for review by WG and should be published as Working Group Note
15:52:09 <sandro> sandro: I suggest UCR be published as a WG Note
15:52:22 <bhyland> q?
15:52:25 <hadleybeeman> q-
15:52:36 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: no requirement that DataCube UC should be reg track
15:52:49 <bhyland> cygri: Confirmed Use Case doc should be a WG Note
15:54:24 <cygri> ack me
15:54:37 <DeirdreLee> cygri: there is a dependency for UC doc on DATACUBE spec, so we should ensure all requirements in UC doc are satisfied by spec
15:54:52 <bhyland> Topic: EU Data Forum
15:55:01 <DaveReynolds> q-
15:55:11 <bhyland> Deirdre: Last Friday was deadline for call for contributions and they received many.
15:55:31 <bhyland> See http://2013.data-forum.eu/news/european-data-forum-2013-call-contribution
15:55:41 <cygri> cygri: as long as we verify that the UC&R doc doesn't imply new requirements that the spec doesn't cover now, i'm ok with publishing UC&R as Note
15:55:48 <bhyland> Call for Exhibits closes on 11-March
15:56:05 <gatemezi> We finally contribute to EDF2013 on the research track
15:56:21 <DaveReynolds> Benedikt - happy to review the Use Case doc. Though probably can't do that till after done the QB LC draft, just not enough hours in the day!
15:56:28 <bhyland> Deirdre: Big data in practice and commercial tools are welcome, also academic research projects & demos welcome.
15:56:43 <bhyland> See http://2013.data-forum.eu/call-for-exhibits
15:56:55 <bhyland> The deadline for submissions is: 11th Mar 2013, 02.00pm CET. Accepted exhibits will be notified on 15th Mar 2013
15:57:31 <bhyland> Table format, bring posters, roll ups, demos on laptops, flyers all welcome
15:58:19 <bhyland> Next F2F3 details see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3
15:58:22 <Zakim> -Mike_Pendleton
15:59:31 <bhyland> Please consider looking & updating the http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3#DRAFT_Agenda
15:59:47 <DeirdreLee> q+
16:00:13 <bhyland> ack DeirdreLee
16:00:16 <bhyland> q?
16:00:24 <Zakim> -olyerickson
16:00:28 <olyerickson> olyerickson has left #gld
16:00:45 <Zakim> -TallTed
16:00:49 <gatemezi> thanks all!
16:00:50 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks
16:00:50 <Zakim> -cygri
16:00:52 <Zakim> -bhyland
16:00:52 <james> james has left #gld
16:00:53 <Zakim> -fadmaa
16:00:53 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
16:00:54 <Zakim> -Sandro
16:00:56 <Zakim> -tinagheen
16:00:57 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
16:00:58 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
16:01:00 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
16:01:02 <Zakim> -james
16:01:03 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
16:01:12 <bhyland> @DeirdreLee, are you right publish minutes or do you need any support?
16:01:27 <Zakim> -gatemezi
16:01:36 <DeirdreLee> need support
16:01:40 <DeirdreLee> but time i learned :)
16:01:53 <DeirdreLee> i'm still on call if that's easiert
16:02:21 <cygri> starting point: https://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=ldp&go=Use+This+Group
16:02:47 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee
16:02:52 <bhyland> I have summarized actions here:
16:02:53 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130228#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist
16:03:14 <bhyland> I'll monitor IRC and if you don't publish within 5 minutes, I'll do it :-)
16:03:49 <DeirdreLee> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:04:02 <DeirdreLee> RRSAgent, generate minutes
16:04:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/28-gld-minutes.html DeirdreLee
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