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13:58:20 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-gld-irc 14:00:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference 14:00:30 <trackbot> Date: 28 June 2012 14:00:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see martinAlvarez, GeraldSteeman, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, George, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA2, mhausenblas, MacTed, olyerickson, cygri, bhyland, danbri, sandro, 14:00:33 <Zakim> ... trackbot 14:00:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started 14:00:46 <olyerickson> zakim, I am ??p2 14:00:46 <GeraldSteeman> zakim, i am aaaa 14:00:52 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it 14:00:55 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman; got it 14:00:57 <olyerickson> mute me 14:00:58 <Zakim> -??P8 14:01:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me 14:01:15 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me. 14:01:25 <Zakim> +mhausenblas 14:01:27 <Zakim> sorry, fadmaa, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 14:01:27 <cygri> zakim, i'm with mhausenblas 14:01:32 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted 14:01:39 <Zakim> +??P8 14:01:43 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P8 is me 14:01:47 <luisBermudez> luisBermudez has joined #gld 14:01:48 <Zakim> +cygri; got it 14:01:53 <olyerickson> I'll scribe 14:01:57 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353 is me 14:01:58 <olyerickson> but need help 14:02:00 <olyerickson> at end 14:02:07 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it 14:02:11 <olyerickson> scribe: olyerickson 14:02:14 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it 14:02:17 <Zakim> +??P19 14:02:19 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me 14:02:23 <martinAlvarez_> martinAlvarez_ has joined #gld 14:02:27 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted 14:02:37 <olyerickson> others can help 14:02:45 <olyerickson> Topic; New Members? 14:02:51 <Zakim> + +1.267.481.aacc 14:02:55 <deirdrelee> will brush up on scribing etiquette and will volunteer next time :) 14:02:55 <olyerickson> No new members 14:03:02 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here? 14:03:07 <olyerickson> Topic: Minutes from previous meeting 14:03:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), davidwood, fadmaa (muted), ??P11, George, mhausenblas, PhilA2, DaveReynolds, +1.267.481.aacc 14:03:18 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri 14:03:32 <luisBermudez> aacc is me 14:03:32 <PhilA2> -> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-06-21 last week's minutes 14:03:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see martinAlvarez_, luisBermudez, martinAlvarez, GeraldSteeman, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, George, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA2, mhausenblas, MacTed, olyerickson, cygri, 14:03:41 <olyerickson> sorry 14:03:42 <Zakim> ... bhyland, sandro, trackbot 14:03:48 <olyerickson> Minutes accepted 14:04:03 <bhyland> +1 14:04:03 <olyerickson> Topic: Dedicated PROV Call? 14:04:05 <PhilA2> +1 14:04:16 <bhyland> q+ 14:04:25 <olyerickson> George: Good or bad idea? 14:04:30 <olyerickson> +1 14:04:35 <bhyland> ack bhyland 14:04:49 <olyerickson> Many +1 to PROV engagement 14:05:19 <olyerickson> bhyland: Most important group we liaze with, well-spent time to have PROV rep 14:05:35 <Zakim> +??P25 14:05:46 <martinAlvarez_> zakim, ??P25 is martinAlvarez 14:05:46 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez; got it 14:05:48 <Zakim> + +1.617.642.aadd 14:05:49 <olyerickson> george: will work with bhyland to engage with PROV and get overview for upcoming call 14:05:51 <PhilA2> action: George to invite someone from the Prov WG to talk to one of our meetings 14:05:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-72 - Invite someone from the Prov WG to talk to one of our meetings [on George Thomas - due 2012-07-05]. 14:05:55 <George> zakim, who is on the call? 14:05:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), davidwood, fadmaa (muted), ??P11, George, mhausenblas, PhilA2, DaveReynolds (muted), +1.267.481.aacc, martinAlvarez, 14:05:59 <Zakim> ... +1.617.642.aadd 14:05:59 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri 14:06:07 <martinAlvarez_> zakim, mute me 14:06:07 <Zakim> sorry, martinAlvarez_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 14:06:17 <olyerickson> Topic: Verifying dial-in numbers... 14:06:32 <tinagheen> tinagheen has joined #gld 14:06:57 <PhilA2> zakim, aacc is luisBermudez 14:06:57 <Zakim> +luisBermudez; got it 14:06:58 <Zakim> +[LC] 14:07:00 <George> zakim, who is on the call? 14:07:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), davidwood, fadmaa (muted), ??P11, George, mhausenblas, PhilA2, DaveReynolds (muted), luisBermudez, martinAlvarez, 14:07:01 <martinAlvarez_> zakim, martinAlvarez_ is martinAlvarez 14:07:04 <Zakim> ... +1.617.642.aadd, [LC] 14:07:04 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri 14:07:04 <Zakim> sorry, martinAlvarez_, I do not recognize a party named 'martinAlvarez_' 14:07:07 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me 14:07:07 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it 14:07:38 <bhyland> agenda+ schedule for summer meeting george please, end of call? 14:07:41 <olyerickson> Topic: PhilA introduces ISA Update 14:08:00 <deirdrelee> Zakim, ??P11 is me 14:08:00 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it 14:09:37 <deirdrelee> will do 14:09:42 <olyerickson> PhilA: Introduction of ???? 14:09:53 <PhilA2> -> http://www.w3.org/ns/adms ADMNA NS doc 14:10:02 <PhilA2> s/ADMNA/ADMS/ 14:10:16 <cygri> this is vassilios: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/vassilios-peristeras/2/722/911 14:10:30 <olyerickson> PhilA: ADMS: Asset Description Metadata Specification 14:10:46 <olyerickson> * Upcoming doc that GLD will be asked to take on 14:10:50 <PhilA2> -> http://philarcher.org/isa/ADMS_Specification_v1.00.pdf ADMS spec 14:11:23 <olyerickson> * Lengthy doc (above) is complete 14:11:39 <olyerickson> * PhilA aims to create more W3S-like version/summary of doc 14:12:04 <George> q? 14:12:32 <olyerickson> * ADMS has its own controlled vocab for status of things...W3C GLD will not take on ISA terminology 14:12:57 <olyerickson> * Doesn't want to take controlled vocab issue on now, but GLD must deal with in future 14:13:26 <olyerickson> * PhilA plan: create version that is closer to W3C norm, then GLD can take up discussion 14:13:30 <PhilA2> -> http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/ Official EC site 14:13:52 <PhilA2> -> http://www.w3.org/2012/06/tr2adms/ W3C notes on ADMS 14:14:35 <olyerickson> * W3C RDF description of TR space --- every working draft, last call, yada-yada 14:14:58 <olyerickson> * Other stds groups are trying to create similar offerings, having troubles 14:15:02 <bhyland> q+ 14:15:04 <PhilA2> ack DaveReynolds 14:15:29 <olyerickson> DaveReynolds: Has found erros in RDF, how to submit feedback? 14:15:46 <olyerickson> * mentions specific errors as examples 14:16:04 <olyerickson> * does PhilA want comments back, and how? Grateful for feedback 14:16:12 <George> q? 14:16:35 <George> ack bhyland 14:17:10 <olyerickson> bhyland: PhilA take time to explain; what is the infrastructure being used? Lots of work represented/ How can others be engaged to share the burden 14:17:15 <Yigal> Yigal has joined #gld 14:17:47 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Two other things of note 14:18:02 <olyerickson> * One is ADMS 14:18:08 <olyerickson> * One is DCAT 14:18:19 <Zakim> +??P26 14:18:33 <Yigal> zakim, ??p26 is me 14:18:33 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it 14:18:34 <olyerickson> * But one is related to software ??? 14:18:53 <olyerickson> * But software not related to core work of GLD 14:18:56 <PhilA2> -> http://philarcher.org/isa/radion_v1.1.html RADion 14:19:30 <olyerickson> * This led to recognition of common elements of ADMS, DCAT, Software: that's RADion (see link above) 14:19:42 <olyerickson> * See UML on page above 14:20:33 <olyerickson> * PhilA showed to Irina (CKAN); her comment, "that's the kind of (simplified) model we had in mind" 14:20:44 <Zakim> -martinAlvarez 14:20:59 <olyerickson> * Should subclass the DCAT (et al) structure 14:21:18 <olyerickson> * See ADMS in the same light as DCAT 14:21:28 <Zakim> +??P3 14:21:32 <olyerickson> * PhilA wants to pause to receive comments 14:21:35 <martinAlvarez_> zakim, ??p3 is me 14:21:35 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez_; got it 14:21:45 <martinAlvarez_> zakim, mute me 14:21:45 <Zakim> martinAlvarez_ should now be muted 14:21:52 <olyerickson> George: Make sure we capture proposal 14:22:00 <PhilA2> My proposal is that ADMS is handled along with RADion and DCAT as being "all of a piece" 14:22:22 <PhilA2> i.e. the same space, same people, same thinking 14:22:35 <olyerickson> George: "All of a piece?" 14:22:41 <George> q? 14:23:10 <olyerickson> bhyland: Not sure she really understands what is being proposed 14:23:45 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Means, thinking about everything as part of the same thing...ie those considering DCAT also take on ADMS and RADion 14:24:08 <olyerickson> * RADion not to be seen as stand-alone 14:24:30 <bhyland> For the record: "The Repository Asset Distribution (RADion) was developed under the European Commission's http://ec.europa.eu/isa/ . This is the namespace document, generated from the associated RDF schema. Full documentation is provided in the https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/radion/description specification document itself. This includes background information, use cases, the conceptual model and full definitions for all terms used." 14:25:38 <olyerickson> * Recalls Brussels "break-out" discussion...results of that was realization that Basque, Austrians have created their own vocabs 14:26:00 <olyerickson> * void, DCAT don't convey all they they want/need to convey 14:26:05 <bhyland> @PhilA, So do I get this right … RADion is a meta meta dataset description for open gov data of different linguistic sets?? 14:26:33 <olyerickson> * PhilA2 sees those also using RADion --- just a useful bit of structure 14:27:01 <deirdrelee> q? 14:27:05 <deirdrelee> q+ 14:27:23 <olyerickson> bhyland: RADion is a namespace/"placeholder' --- multiple-purpose, meta-meta 14:27:41 <cygri> q+ 14:27:57 <olyerickson> PhilA2: just a diagram, to be sub-classed, engineering of derivatives would be consistent 14:28:00 <olyerickson> bhyland: 14:28:10 <DaveReynolds> q+ 14:28:16 <olyerickson> bhyland: Maybe this represents a natural evolution 14:28:29 <PhilA2> ack deirdrelee 14:28:33 <olyerickson> (popping the queue...) 14:29:03 <PhilA2> ack cygri 14:29:25 <deirdrelee> Zakim, unmute me 14:29:26 <Zakim> deirdrelee was not muted, deirdrelee 14:29:44 <PhilA2> cygri: Note also schema.org conversation is relevant. They're looking at dataset descriptions too 14:29:53 <mhausenblas> --> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets 14:30:03 <PhilA2> ... we should not duplicate schema.org 14:30:06 <George> cygri: plenty of 'upper vocabularies' to choose from - schema.org alignment as example dujour 14:30:08 <olyerickson> * make sure that what ever we do, is designed with schema.org considerd as well 14:30:33 <olyerickson> * schema.org may also eventually consider such a core/high-level model 14:30:34 <Zakim> -martinAlvarez_ 14:30:34 <bhyland> q+ 14:30:40 <olyerickson> * make sure we align 14:30:40 <deirdrelee> I wanted to ask, as the vienna example is a clear use-case to justify RADion, do you have feedback from Vienna group on RADion - does it address their needs as a higher-level vocabulary? 14:30:58 <DaveReynolds> ack me 14:31:07 <deirdrelee> i'm having problem with skype microphone 14:31:23 <olyerickson> DaveReynolds: thinks he gets what PhilA is saying, but how will it work in practice? 14:31:48 <olyerickson> * still needs to be reviewed 14:32:01 <deirdrelee> i pasted question to irc 14:32:14 <olyerickson> * don't understand how extended radion works in practice 14:32:22 <olyerickson> PhilA2: trying not to create more work 14:32:32 <olyerickson> * still "up in the air" 14:32:45 <deirdrelee> thanks 14:33:02 <olyerickson> * in terms of process, EC-related work is "complete" and now testing against implementation 14:33:11 <olyerickson> * direct experience, review is critical 14:33:42 <olyerickson> DaveReynolds: Is simply looking for guidance on how to extend RADion 14:33:50 <deirdrelee> ok 14:33:51 <bhyland> q? 14:34:26 <olyerickson> bhyland: Fundamental question: When we discussed ADMS ca. Dec, "we don't want to create new vocabs" 14:34:38 <olyerickson> * feels like RADion is "meta ADMS" 14:34:44 <olyerickson> * concern: adding layers of work 14:35:30 <olyerickson> * Doesn't this align with Max/Andrea/PhilA's work align with schema.org work? 14:36:09 <olyerickson> * "They" are about clear description of what/how webmasters should be doing this 14:36:28 <olyerickson> * Seems like this effort should align? 14:36:56 <olyerickson> * Secondly: DCAT, etc represent big effort; won't have similar effort for remainder of ISA vocabs 14:37:24 <bhyland> s/Doesn't this align/Shouldn't this align 14:37:25 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Clear that this should be aligned with schema.org; follows public-vocabs list 14:37:41 <olyerickson> * May be that schema.org has it covered 14:38:14 <olyerickson> * w.r.t. GLD, PhilA of large amount of work put upon small amount of people, aware of strain 14:38:33 <olyerickson> bhyland: where does RADion fit wrt rest of ISA program 14:39:53 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Notes that (a) we are trying to get more participants, and (b) there are people who want to join, esp. to participate in GLD 14:40:08 <bhyland> I hear there was considerable interest by several new prospects into the GLD WG @ the Brussels conference. 14:40:22 <George> q? 14:40:25 <bhyland> ack bhyland 14:40:31 <olyerickson> * RADion is *intended* to make things easier, but if it doesn't... 14:40:35 <Zakim> - +1.617.642.aadd 14:41:05 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Expects more time dedicated to this in near future 14:41:28 <olyerickson> bhyland: Sees need for "committee" of people involved in vocabs to see if this is appropriate 14:41:39 <olyerickson> * esp for our target stakeholders 14:41:59 <olyerickson> George: We've gone over our allotted time for ISA-related 14:42:11 <olyerickson> * time to switch to ADMS/DCAT discussion 14:42:22 <olyerickson> Topic: ADMS and DCAT overview 14:42:38 <PhilA2> -> http://philarcher.org/isa/person-v1.00.html Person 14:42:38 <olyerickson> Topic: Core Vocabularies 14:42:52 <George> agree with points bhyland was making/requesting 14:42:56 <olyerickson> Subtopic: Person Vocabulary 14:42:58 <PhilA2> -> http://philarcher.org/isa/locn-v1.00.html Location 14:43:04 <olyerickson> * has had most negative attention 14:43:30 <olyerickson> Subtopic: Location 14:43:39 <olyerickson> * Lots of attention, esp. from geospatial 14:43:54 <olyerickson> * PhilA conversations with OCG, INSPIRE, other 14:44:40 <olyerickson> * Upcoming call with W3C and several other geospatial stakeholders, including GeoSparql etc 14:44:50 <olyerickson> * how do/will these things come together 14:44:58 <bhyland> @DaveReynolds, @cygri, @mhausenblas … how does this work in W3C WGs where we need focused dive on whether yet-another-vocab that describes data set metadata makes sense? If this is a natural evolution as people do real work, great, let's give it due consideration. I personally don't have the expertise to make a call so some "committee" with people from this WG or outside, that do, may be in a better position. 14:45:10 <olyerickson> * how will it be done? Not sure --- that's what the conversation is about 14:45:20 <olyerickson> * PhilA to report back 14:45:25 <PhilA2> -> http://philarcher.org/isa/business-v1.00.html Business vocab 14:45:28 <olyerickson> Subtopic: Business Vocabulary 14:45:43 <olyerickson> * specific use case for describing companies in registries 14:45:46 <PhilA2> -> http://opencorporates.com/companies/gb/04285910.rdf Open Corporates implementation http://opencorporates.com/companies/gb/04285910.rdf 14:45:53 <BenediktKaempgen> BenediktKaempgen has joined #gld 14:46:09 <olyerickson> * OpenCorporates/Chris Taggert has been involved in implementing 14:46:29 <olyerickson> * Designed to be subclass of Org contology, not to replace 14:46:43 <olyerickson> * speaking to Belgian business registry Friday 14:46:51 <Zakim> + +49.721.aaee 14:47:13 <PhilA2> http://www.w3.org/ns/person 14:47:22 <olyerickson> Again - We are committed to taking these on, the question is *how* do we execute 14:47:47 <olyerickson> * PhilA needs GLD permission to replace "holding" docs with more permanent forms 14:48:01 <George> q? 14:48:03 <olyerickson> George: Time for us to get more serious 14:48:20 <olyerickson> * Any other comments on the above? 14:48:33 <fadmaa> zakim, unmute me 14:48:33 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted 14:49:08 <DaveReynolds> Should be a formal vote 14:49:09 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Point of order: needs answer to his question: ok to publish those schemas? 14:49:20 <bhyland> @PhilA2 - what are the ramifications of publishing all these vocabs in the w3 ns as an editor's draft?? 14:49:25 <cygri> which ones exactly? 14:49:28 <DaveReynolds> I will abstain rather than object 14:49:42 <bhyland> I'm not prepared to vote ... 14:49:42 <PhilA2> proposal is to publish schemas for Radion, Person, Location and Besiness 14:49:43 <olyerickson> Any objects to PhilA going forward with namespaces to core vocabs as describved? 14:49:45 <bhyland> need more info. 14:49:59 <PhilA2> http://philarcher.org/isa/business-v1.00.html 14:50:00 <olyerickson> Person, Location, Business core vocabularies 14:50:05 <PhilA2> http://philarcher.org/isa/locn-v1.00.html 14:50:09 <PhilA2> http://philarcher.org/isa/person-v1.00.html 14:50:12 <bhyland> I feel this is too rushed, I'm sorry 14:50:14 <PhilA2> http://philarcher.org/isa/radion_v1.1.html 14:50:33 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Moving from "holding pages" to "official" pages 14:50:52 <deirdrelee> how would this relate to the Person and Organisation deliverables in the GLD workspace? 14:51:16 <olyerickson> bhyland: What will the status be? What does it mean? 14:51:30 <bhyland> No standing, just a document in the W3 website. 14:51:38 <George> like this - http://www.w3.org/ns/adms 14:51:54 <olyerickson> PhilA2: No formal standing. Simply a document on the W3C web site (see above example for ADMS) 14:52:03 <cygri> q+ 14:52:16 <bhyland> abstain 14:52:28 <olyerickson> ack cygri 14:52:54 <olyerickson> cygri: What have been our previous decisions on the three core vocabs? 14:53:20 <olyerickson> * Have decisions been made about potential publication? 14:54:03 <olyerickson> * Previous conversation involving GLD leaders with jeff jaffry, etc, and pattern match with GLD charter was found 14:54:43 <olyerickson> bhyland: There was acknowledgement that this represents good work, bridge between ISA and W3C seen, 14:54:56 <olyerickson> * also recognizes that there is an ISA deadline 14:55:21 <olyerickson> * And recognizes that GLD is becoming highly visible 14:55:42 <olyerickson> * But concerned about rushing and/over over-extending GLD WG 14:55:56 <olyerickson> * not comfortable commenting 14:56:22 <olyerickson> George: None of this is new; we have followed suite with ADMS 14:56:30 <deirdrelee> @PhilA2: should the person and business core vocabularies be somehow linked (even theoretically if not at concept level) to the Person and Organisation deliverables in the GLD workspace to avoid confusion 14:56:40 <DaveReynolds> q+ 14:56:46 <cygri> q+ 14:56:51 <olyerickson> * yet we seem to not have concensus at this moment 14:56:53 <DaveReynolds> ack me 14:56:58 <olyerickson> unmute me 14:57:31 <olyerickson> DaveReynolds: retracts his abstention 14:57:42 <olyerickson> * specific concern over Business core vocab 14:58:10 <olyerickson> * has a definite caution that Business vocab be rigorously reviewed 14:58:28 <fadmaa> zakim, mute me 14:58:28 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted 14:58:54 <olyerickson> ???: Input goes into vocab design from different directions 14:59:08 <PhilA2> s/???/cygri/ 14:59:16 <olyerickson> * sort-of unclear what the ownership is of these things 14:59:33 <olyerickson> * what is implied by the steps being taken (proposed) now 14:59:36 <bhyland> cygri: Issues around process, owners for the purposes of maintenance, and W3 namespace 14:59:55 <olyerickson> * e.g. are we thereby agreeing to publish a document based on these? 15:00:11 <olyerickson> George: These are also the questions that Bhyland had 15:00:23 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Perceived meaning vs actual meaning 15:00:43 <olyerickson> * There is work going on around Europe 15:00:52 <olyerickson> * GLD has control 15:01:07 <olyerickson> * GLD has complete right to change whatever it likes/needs to 15:01:36 <George> q? 15:01:57 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Supposes he should get on with create docs that describe these vocabs 15:02:13 <olyerickson> cygri: Initial reaction was, oh well these look okay 15:02:37 <bhyland> @PhilA, what does control mean really? Makx and Andrea aren't members of this GLD. Are you able to own this do the remaining heavy lifting? 15:03:26 <PhilA2> @bhyland. Yes. Although Andrea may well be joining the group (he helped with POWDER and is in the INSPIRE team at the EC) 15:03:27 <olyerickson> olyerickson has left #gld 15:03:44 <PhilA2> cygri: Concerned about scope creep. Unconvinced that RADion is necessary or desirable 15:03:48 <bhyland> cygri: not comfortable giving approval at this time to RADion. Has concerns about scope creep. 15:03:49 <Zakim> -deirdrelee 15:03:52 <PhilA2> scribe: PhilA2 15:04:06 <PhilA2> cygri: Doesn't seem to make sense to allocated URIs 15:04:35 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Very grateful for the comments received 15:04:39 <bhyland> +1 to cygri's comments. Please don't take this to mean 'no', it means we need a bit more time to digest and have a sensible discussion on how it fits. 15:04:55 <PhilA2> PhilA2: And I apologise for taking up the whole meeting 15:05:02 <bhyland> Please take this as a positive sign that we care & want to ensure it is 'right' as we go foward. 15:05:16 <PhilA2> George: No consensus reached. Look to regroup on DCAT in July 15:05:32 <PhilA2> George: And to tackle Rufus and Ed Summers' input 15:05:38 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman 15:05:49 <PhilA2> George: Thanks PhilA2 for building the bridge with ISA 15:05:56 <bhyland> @George, please highlight the July/Aug summer schedule … 15:06:01 <bhyland> Proposed: 2012-08-30 15:06:01 <bhyland> 2012-08-23 15:06:01 <bhyland> 2012-08-16 - NO MEETING (summer schedule) 15:06:01 <bhyland> 2012-08-09 15:06:01 <bhyland> 2012-08-02 - NO MEETING (summer schedule) 15:06:01 <bhyland> 2012-07-26 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Bernadette_Hyland (on holiday) 15:06:04 <bhyland> 2012-07-19 - NO MEETING (summer schedule) 15:06:05 <bhyland> 2012-07-12 15:06:07 <bhyland> 2012-07-05 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Dave_Reynolds 15:06:21 <cygri> PhilA2, I hadn't quite realized that the intention was to take RADion into GLD, so didn't really pay enough attention to it when you started talking about it. I'll have some reading about it to do now. 15:11:15 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 15:11:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.757.604.aaaa, davidwood, +3539149aabb, George, olyerickson, GeraldSteeman, mhausenblas, cygri, PhilA2, fadmaa, +1.267.481.aacc, DaveReynolds, martinAlvarez, 15:11:15 <Zakim> ... +1.617.642.aadd, luisBermudez, tinagheen, deirdrelee, Yigal, martinAlvarez_, +49.721.aaee 15:11:21 <DaveReynolds> DaveReynolds has left #gld 15:11:44 <PhilA2> ... rrsagent, make logs public 15:11:56 <PhilA2> rrsagent, make logs public 15:12:12 <PhilA2> rrsagent, draft minutes 15:12:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-gld-minutes.html PhilA2 # SPECIAL MARKER FOR CHATSYNC. DO NOT EDIT THIS LINE OR BELOW. SRCLINESUSED=00000366