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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 04 April 2013

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Dave Reynolds, Hadley Beeman, James McKinney, John Erickson, Makx Dekkers, Marios Meimaris, Phil Archer, Sandro Hawke, Ted Thibodeau
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  1. accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-28 as minutes of last week link
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13:59:32 <PhilA> zakim, this is gld

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13:59:33 <Zakim> ok, PhilA; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

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13:59:48 <PhilA> zakim, code?

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13:59:48 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

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14:00:10 <HadleyBeeman> cheers, philA

Hadley Beeman: cheers, philA

14:00:14 <HadleyBeeman> Sorry to be missing you, olyerickson

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14:00:28 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me

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14:00:31 <olyerickson> sorry to, but need to provide moral support ;)

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14:01:39 <Zakim> +Sandro

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14:01:47 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

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14:02:02 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

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14:02:05 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

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14:02:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:02:22 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130404

Ted Thibodeau: TallTed has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130404

14:03:18 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the phone?

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14:03:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, PhilA, Sandro, TallTed (muted), DaveReynolds

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14:04:21 <sandro> scribe: sandro

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14:04:31 <sandro> RRSAgent, pointer?

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14:04:31 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-gld-irc#T14-04-31

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14:05:00 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting

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14:05:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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14:05:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

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14:05:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:05:05 <trackbot> Date: 04 April 2013
14:05:58 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-28

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-28

14:06:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:06:29 <sandro> proposed: accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-28 as minutes of last week

PROPOSED: accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-28 as minutes of last week

14:06:35 <PhilA> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:06:39 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

14:06:43 <james> +1

James McKinney: +1

14:06:44 <sandro> +1

+1

14:06:49 <MakxDekkers> +1

Makx Dekkers: +1

14:06:52 <sandro> resolved: accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-28 as minutes of last week

RESOLVED: accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-28 as minutes of last week

14:07:21 <TallTed> HadleyBeeman's connection is dicey, yes

Ted Thibodeau: HadleyBeeman's connection is dicey, yes

14:07:40 <sandro> topic: adms

1. adms

14:07:58 <sandro> phil: Trying to upload it to hg as we speak.   come back to me in 5 mins?

Phil Archer: Trying to upload it to hg as we speak. come back to me in 5 mins?

14:08:20 <sandro> topic: Incoming comments on LC documents

2. Incoming comments on LC documents

14:08:23 <MakxDekkers> have problems connecting voice, local problem it seems, will keep trying

Makx Dekkers: have problems connecting voice, local problem it seems, will keep trying

14:08:37 <HadleyBeeman> Comments mailing list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/

Hadley Beeman: Comments mailing list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/

14:08:43 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: we've been trying to generate interest and get review comments.    not sure it's sufficient yet.

Hadley Beeman: we've been trying to generate interest and get review comments. not sure it's sufficient yet.

14:08:56 <sandro> .. looking mostly at March and April

.. looking mostly at March and April

14:09:10 <sandro> .. we have some on PROV and ORG, resolved

.. we have some on PROV and ORG, resolved

14:09:20 <sandro> .. cube and dcat are a concern

.. cube and dcat are a concern

14:09:22 <MakxDekkers> have asked members of DCAT application profile group in Europe to send comments

Makx Dekkers: have asked members of DCAT application profile group in Europe to send comments

14:09:25 <sandro> .. anything at all on cube?

.. anything at all on cube?

14:09:44 <sandro> DaveReynolds: There was one comment, editorial, which I responded to.

Dave Reynolds: There was one comment, editorial, which I responded to.

14:10:01 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: We're supposed to close LC next week

Hadley Beeman: We're supposed to close LC next week

14:10:31 <MakxDekkers> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/dcat_application_profile/description

Makx Dekkers: https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/dcat_application_profile/description

14:11:27 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers

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14:11:29 <sandro> sandro: Can we at least get the statistics people who were in the group, Dan Gilman, and the Australian person & get them to review it.

Sandro Hawke: Can we at least get the statistics people who were in the group, Dan Gilman, and the Australian person & get them to review it.

14:12:32 <sandro> sandro: we want evidence of wide public review

Sandro Hawke: we want evidence of wide public review

14:12:53 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Yeah, they've been around for several years, so not a lot of comments right now.

Dave Reynolds: Yeah, they've been around for several years, so not a lot of comments right now.

14:13:39 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: any proxy for comments?

Hadley Beeman: any proxy for comments?

14:14:05 <sandro> sandro: evidence of use, and the fact that we did announce it to these lists, .... that's something.

Sandro Hawke: evidence of use, and the fact that we did announce it to these lists, .... that's something.

14:14:47 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: So maybe the discussion has already happened

Hadley Beeman: So maybe the discussion has already happened

14:15:11 <sandro> sandro: It's still be good to get a few more emails from people saying they've looked at it, and at least "seems okay to me"

Sandro Hawke: It's still be good to get a few more emails from people saying they've looked at it, and at least "seems okay to me"

14:15:33 <MakxDekkers> I will again send a message to the DCAT-AP working group list (over 40 people discussiong using DCAT)

Makx Dekkers: I will again send a message to the DCAT-AP working group list (over 40 people discussiong using DCAT)

14:15:49 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Okay, sounds like I should ping the statistics list and Dan

Dave Reynolds: Okay, sounds like I should ping the statistics list and Dan

14:16:06 <sandro> thanks, MakxDekkers

thanks, MakxDekkers

14:16:37 <DaveReynolds> action: DaveReynolds contact Dan Gilman and PublishingStatistics list to encourage LC responses on Data Cube

ACTION: DaveReynolds contact Dan Gilman and PublishingStatistics list to encourage LC responses on Data Cube

14:16:37 <trackbot> Error finding 'DaveReynolds'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.

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14:16:59 <sandro> sandro: I suggest provocative deadline-oriented emails.   One More Week!

Sandro Hawke: I suggest provocative deadline-oriented emails. One More Week!

14:17:24 <sandro> action: dave  contact Dan Gilman and PublishingStatistics list to encourage LC responses on Data Cube

ACTION: dave contact Dan Gilman and PublishingStatistics list to encourage LC responses on Data Cube

14:17:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-107 -  contact Dan Gilman and PublishingStatistics list to encourage LC responses on Data Cube [on Dave Reynolds - due 2013-04-11].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-107 - contact Dan Gilman and PublishingStatistics list to encourage LC responses on Data Cube [on Dave Reynolds - due 2013-04-11].

14:17:29 <DaveReynolds> We have had quite a lot of comments on DCAT over last few days

Dave Reynolds: We have had quite a lot of comments on DCAT over last few days

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14:18:09 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Everyone else, PLEASE try to find other people who might care and could review these documents

Hadley Beeman: Everyone else, PLEASE try to find other people who might care and could review these documents

14:18:12 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me

Marios Meimaris: zakim, IPcaller is me

14:18:12 <Zakim> +MariosMeimaris; got it

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14:18:27 <PhilA> topic: ADMS

3. ADMS

14:18:29 <PhilA> http://philarcher.org/adms/

Phil Archer: http://philarcher.org/adms/

14:18:29 <sandro> topic: ADMS

4. ADMS

14:18:52 <sandro> PhilA: Forgive me to the non w3.org address for now; I'll put it in mercurial when I can

Phil Archer: Forgive me to the non w3.org address for now; I'll put it in mercurial when I can

14:19:21 <sandro> .. I hope I've simplified ADMS quite significantly, applying what I've seen in discussions about org and dcat

.. I hope I've simplified ADMS quite significantly, applying what I've seen in discussions about org and dcat

14:19:29 <sandro> .. I've removed RADION references

.. I've removed RADION references

14:19:40 <sandro> .. look at diagram.

.. look at diagram.

14:20:00 <sandro> .. 6. The ADMS Domain Model

.. 6. The ADMS Domain Model

14:20:20 <sandro> PhilA: Was using rdfs:label, .... not we're using dcterms: title

Phil Archer: Was using rdfs:label, .... not we're using dcterms: title

14:20:34 <sandro> .. now using skos:altLabel

.. now using skos:altLabel

14:20:46 <sandro> .. accessURL, landingPage, etc.

.. accessURL, landingPage, etc.

14:20:58 <sandro> .. where there's something in dcat, ADMS now just uses it.

.. where there's something in dcat, ADMS now just uses it.

14:21:35 <sandro> .. was originally XML or RDF, still true, but we're ignoring XML for this now.   So diagram can be simpler/clearer.

.. was originally XML or RDF, still true, but we're ignoring XML for this now. So diagram can be simpler/clearer.

14:21:46 <sandro> .. I suggest this goes through as a WG NOTE.

.. I suggest this goes through as a WG NOTE.

14:22:09 <sandro> .. extensive use, but all for one application (EC's own platform)

.. extensive use, but all for one application (EC's own platform)

14:22:20 <sandro> q+

q+

14:22:38 <sandro> .. some ADMS-only terms, they are in ADMS namespace.    Almost everything is in DC or DCAT.

.. some ADMS-only terms, they are in ADMS namespace. Almost everything is in DC or DCAT.

14:23:02 <sandro> sandro: Have your changes been reflected in the implementation?

Sandro Hawke: Have your changes been reflected in the implementation?

14:23:09 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

14:23:20 <sandro> PhilA: MakxDekkers and I are working with the relevant people, so this should be easy enough.

Phil Archer: MakxDekkers and I are working with the relevant people, so this should be easy enough.

14:23:39 <sandro> .. This will be the first time ADMS has occured in TR space

.. This will be the first time ADMS has occured in TR space

14:23:47 <sandro> sandro: You don't expect pushback over these changes?

Sandro Hawke: You don't expect pushback over these changes?

14:24:19 <sandro> MakxDekkers: The tools maintaining ADMS, with OpenRefine, ... No, I don't expect a lot of pushback.   We should share this ASAP.

Makx Dekkers: The tools maintaining ADMS, with OpenRefine, ... No, I don't expect a lot of pushback. We should share this ASAP.

14:24:37 <PhilA> ack sandro

Phil Archer: ack sandro

14:24:38 <sandro> .. with the right explanations, I *expect* people will like the alignment with DCAT.

.. with the right explanations, I *expect* people will like the alignment with DCAT.

14:24:55 <sandro> sandro: So is the plan to get that buyin before or after NOTE?

Sandro Hawke: So is the plan to get that buyin before or after NOTE?

14:25:19 <sandro> PhilA: We should have feedback before we meet next week, so yes, buying first.

Phil Archer: We should have feedback before we meet next week, so yes, buying first.

14:25:19 <PhilA> ack DaveReynolds

Phil Archer: ack DaveReynolds

14:25:46 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Okay with voting at F2F?

Hadley Beeman: Okay with voting at F2F?

14:26:19 <sandro> PhilA: If there's space on the agenda at the F2F, let's do it then, yes.   We'll have a polycom.

Phil Archer: If there's space on the agenda at the F2F, let's do it then, yes. We'll have a polycom.

14:27:09 <sandro> sandro: If it's not too much of a hassle, please try to have the major decisions later in the day, for those of us in the western hemisphere.

Sandro Hawke: If it's not too much of a hassle, please try to have the major decisions later in the day, for those of us in the western hemisphere.

14:27:26 <sandro> DaveReynolds: For the classes, is there any more you say, eg about SemanticAssets

Dave Reynolds: For the classes, is there any more you say, eg about SemanticAssets

14:27:47 <sandro> PhilA: I'd like to make them subclasses of the DCAT classes, but MakxDekkers is telling me why that might not work.

Phil Archer: I'd like to make them subclasses of the DCAT classes, but MakxDekkers is telling me why that might not work.

14:27:58 <sandro> PhilA: I think of this as a profile of dcat

Phil Archer: I think of this as a profile of dcat

14:29:20 <sandro> MakxDekkers: I haven't thought about whether it's a dcat profile.   I see that DCAT was a perspective of a catalog, it describes a virtual file store, where files are distributions, where some share charactrtistics, making a dataset.  Instead ADMS focusses on the assets, like the datasets, that can exist WITHOUT a catalog, and without the files.

Makx Dekkers: I haven't thought about whether it's a dcat profile. I see that DCAT was a perspective of a catalog, it describes a virtual file store, where files are distributions, where some share charactrtistics, making a dataset. Instead ADMS focusses on the assets, like the datasets, that can exist WITHOUT a catalog, and without the files.

14:29:48 <sandro> .. So ADMS handles assets that are not necessarily in a catalog, and do not necessarily have distributions associated with them

.. So ADMS handles assets that are not necessarily in a catalog, and do not necessarily have distributions associated with them

14:30:01 <sandro> .. and that doesn't seem to align with dcat

.. and that doesn't seem to align with dcat

14:30:20 <HadleyBeeman> scribe: hadleybeeman

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14:30:49 <HadleyBeeman> phila:  I did try… we're not 100% sure where to go.  Def of DCAT dataset is so broad, it's almost the same as RDF resource.

Phil Archer: I did try… we're not 100% sure where to go. Def of DCAT dataset is so broad, it's almost the same as RDF resource.

14:31:46 <HadleyBeeman> phila:  You may have a semantic asset that exists conceptually, but doesn't have a downloadable form.  Example:  future deliverables from a working group's charter.

Phil Archer: You may have a semantic asset that exists conceptually, but doesn't have a downloadable form. Example: future deliverables from a working group's charter.

14:32:23 <HadleyBeeman> DaveReynolds:  Not sure I agree. Notion of a dataset as an abstract thing seems reasonable.  If ADMS asset isn't a subset of DCAT dataset, then you have a problem.

Dave Reynolds: Not sure I agree. Notion of a dataset as an abstract thing seems reasonable. If ADMS asset isn't a subset of DCAT dataset, then you have a problem.

14:33:06 <HadleyBeeman> DaveReynolds:  The notion of a repository vs the notion of a catalogue may be sufficiently distinct to not be able to relate those two.  But I see DCAT as being pretty generic.

Dave Reynolds: The notion of a repository vs the notion of a catalogue may be sufficiently distinct to not be able to relate those two. But I see DCAT as being pretty generic.

14:33:13 <MakxDekkers> q+

Makx Dekkers: q+

14:33:29 <sandro> (back)

Sandro Hawke: (back)

14:33:36 <sandro> scribe: sandro

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14:33:37 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA:  I would find it easier to make assertions directily about DCAT;  I didn't because i didn't want to not take on board what MaksDekkers was saying

Phil Archer: I would find it easier to make assertions directily about DCAT; I didn't because i didn't want to not take on board what MaksDekkers was saying [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

14:34:11 <sandro> phil: I think it would be simpler for us as a group if we could say ADMS was a profile of DCAT.      If we can do that.....

Phil Archer: I think it would be simpler for us as a group if we could say ADMS was a profile of DCAT. If we can do that.....

14:34:17 <PhilA> ack MakxDekkers

Phil Archer: ack MakxDekkers

14:35:26 <sandro> MakxDekkers: I find those arguments quite compelling.    If we see adms:asset as a subclass ...     my objjections were maybe on the theoretical side.    I prefer asset as subclass of dataset, with the understanding that dcat dataset is fairly broad -- so it doesn't have to be part of a catalog, and have distributions.

Makx Dekkers: I find those arguments quite compelling. If we see adms:asset as a subclass ... my objjections were maybe on the theoretical side. I prefer asset as subclass of dataset, with the understanding that dcat dataset is fairly broad -- so it doesn't have to be part of a catalog, and have distributions.

14:35:30 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

14:36:09 <sandro> sandro: Maybe MakxDekkers should check the dcat spec to see whether it allows this reading?

Sandro Hawke: Maybe MakxDekkers should check the dcat spec to see whether it allows this reading?

14:36:17 <PhilA> definition of dcat:Dataset "This class represents the actual dataset as published by the dataset publisher. In cases where a distinction between the actual dataset and its entry in the catalog is necessary (because metadata such as modification date and maintainer might differ), the catalog record class can be used for the latter."

Phil Archer: definition of dcat:Dataset "This class represents the actual dataset as published by the dataset publisher. In cases where a distinction between the actual dataset and its entry in the catalog is necessary (because metadata such as modification date and maintainer might differ), the catalog record class can be used for the latter."

14:36:18 <sandro> MakxDekkers: It wasn't clear, when I read it.

Makx Dekkers: It wasn't clear, when I read it.

14:36:34 <sandro> MakxDekkers: ... so in that case it can be a subclass

Makx Dekkers: ... so in that case it can be a subclass

14:36:35 <sandro> q?

q?

14:36:46 <DaveReynolds> ack me

Dave Reynolds: ack me

14:36:47 <PhilA> ack DaveReynolds

Phil Archer: ack DaveReynolds

14:37:39 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Can you put this on the list as a question for the dcat editors/users -- making clear that a dcat: dataset can exist without a catalog ?    And if so, then we can take ADMS this way.   And if so, can we update the documentation?

Dave Reynolds: Can you put this on the list as a question for the dcat editors/users -- making clear that a dcat: dataset can exist without a catalog ? And if so, then we can take ADMS this way. And if so, can we update the documentation?

14:38:11 <sandro> sandro: comments list or WG list?      WG list is probably easier.

Sandro Hawke: comments list or WG list? WG list is probably easier.

14:38:37 <sandro> DaveReynolds: If we end up wanting to change it, we should track that as a last call comment.

Dave Reynolds: If we end up wanting to change it, we should track that as a last call comment.

14:38:51 <sandro> PhilA: Sounds good.

Phil Archer: Sounds good.

14:39:42 <sandro> action: Makx to raise on the mailing list the question of whether dcat:Dataset can exist without a catalog (and thus adms:Asset can be a subclass of it), and how to clarify this in the text

ACTION: Makx to raise on the mailing list the question of whether dcat:Dataset can exist without a catalog (and thus adms:Asset can be a subclass of it), and how to clarify this in the text

14:39:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Raise on the mailing list the question of whether dcat:Dataset can exist without a catalog (and thus adms:Asset can be a subclass of it), and how to clarify this in the text [on Makx Dekkers - due 2013-04-11].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-108 - Raise on the mailing list the question of whether dcat:Dataset can exist without a catalog (and thus adms:Asset can be a subclass of it), and how to clarify this in the text [on Makx Dekkers - due 2013-04-11].

14:40:04 <sandro> PhilA: While we haven't talked about ADMS a lot, the work of the group has overall helped ADMS, I think,

Phil Archer: While we haven't talked about ADMS a lot, the work of the group has overall helped ADMS, I think,

14:40:32 <sandro> sandro: Do we have WG reviewers assigned for ADMS?

Sandro Hawke: Do we have WG reviewers assigned for ADMS?

14:41:06 <sandro> PhilA: I'd hope Richard and/or Fadi could do it, maybe James?

Phil Archer: I'd hope Richard and/or Fadi could do it, maybe James?

14:41:28 <sandro> action: james to review ADMS

ACTION: james to review ADMS

14:41:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Review ADMS [on James McKinney - due 2013-04-11].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-109 - Review ADMS [on James McKinney - due 2013-04-11].

14:42:01 <sandro> topic: status of WG NOTEs ?

5. status of WG NOTEs ?

14:42:13 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: But Fadi and Benedikt are not on the call

Hadley Beeman: But Fadi and Benedikt are not on the call

14:42:47 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Looks like things are roughly on track

Hadley Beeman: Looks like things are roughly on track

14:43:00 <sandro> subtopic: regorg

5.1. regorg

14:43:01 <HadleyBeeman> RegORG timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/REGORG_Timetable

Hadley Beeman: RegORG timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/REGORG_Timetable

14:43:24 <sandro> PhilA: No comments yet.  But I'll check in on Chris Taggert and see if he'll update OpenCorporates

Phil Archer: No comments yet. But I'll check in on Chris Taggert and see if he'll update OpenCorporates

14:43:44 <sandro> .. then we can republish it as a NOTE, with some credibility

.. then we can republish it as a NOTE, with some credibility

14:43:57 <sandro> .. with it being used by the biggest db of corps

.. with it being used by the biggest db of corps

14:44:15 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Do you want to identify reviewers now or wait?

Hadley Beeman: Do you want to identify reviewers now or wait?

14:44:42 <DaveReynolds> My previous review comments should be traceable from the email list

Dave Reynolds: My previous review comments should be traceable from the email list

14:44:43 <sandro> PhilA: I think DaveReynolds has reviewed it.    It had the FPWD review, and it hasn't changed since then.

Phil Archer: I think DaveReynolds has reviewed it. It had the FPWD review, and it hasn't changed since then.

14:45:02 <sandro> PhilA: Unless some problem shows up, it should be simple enough.

Phil Archer: Unless some problem shows up, it should be simple enough.

14:45:27 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Perfect.

Hadley Beeman: Perfect.

14:45:54 <sandro> topic: Action Review

6. Action Review

14:46:59 <sandro> issue-14?

ISSUE-14?

14:46:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-14 -- add dcat:permanentIdentifier property -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-14 -- add dcat:permanentIdentifier property -- open

14:46:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/14

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/14

14:47:12 <sandro> DaveReynolds: This we decided to postpone

Dave Reynolds: This we decided to postpone

14:47:27 <sandro> issue-32?

ISSUE-32?

14:47:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- Relationship to ISO19156 - Observations & Measurements? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-32 -- Relationship to ISO19156 - Observations & Measurements? -- open

14:47:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/32

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/32

14:47:44 <sandro> DaveReynolds: That's going to be handled in the Cube UCR

Dave Reynolds: That's going to be handled in the Cube UCR

14:47:51 <sandro> issue-41?

ISSUE-41?

14:47:51 <trackbot> ISSUE-41 -- use of skos:altLabel or dcterms:alternative -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-41 -- use of skos:altLabel or dcterms:alternative -- open

14:47:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/41

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/41

14:48:01 <sandro> PhilA: I don't actually have a problem with this.

Phil Archer: I don't actually have a problem with this.

14:48:28 <sandro> PhilA: I'm happy for that to be closed, and turned into an action.

Phil Archer: I'm happy for that to be closed, and turned into an action.

14:48:49 <sandro> sandro: and issue-32 could also be turned into an action

Sandro Hawke: and ISSUE-32 could also be turned into an action

14:49:18 <sandro> DaveReynolds: it might already be one.

Dave Reynolds: it might already be one.

14:49:30 <PhilA> action: PhilA to amend RegOrg to use skaos altLabel cf. dcterms alternative

ACTION: PhilA to amend RegOrg to use skaos altLabel cf. dcterms alternative

14:49:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Amend RegOrg to use skaos altLabel cf. dcterms alternative [on Phil Archer - due 2013-04-11].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-110 - Amend RegOrg to use skaos altLabel cf. dcterms alternative [on Phil Archer - due 2013-04-11].

14:49:35 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Okay, I'll ping Fadi on closing 14.

Hadley Beeman: Okay, I'll ping Fadi on closing 14.

14:49:40 <PhilA> close issue-41

Phil Archer: close ISSUE-41

14:49:40 <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-41 use of skos:altLabel or dcterms:alternative.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-41 use of skos:altLabel or dcterms:alternative.

14:50:12 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/raised

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/raised

14:50:55 <sandro> DaveReynolds: I'm updating tracker for issue-32 to have it be closed

Dave Reynolds: I'm updating tracker for ISSUE-32 to have it be closed

14:51:10 <sandro> subtopic: raised issues

6.1. raised issues

14:51:13 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers

14:51:24 <sandro> issue-6?

ISSUE-6?

14:51:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised

14:51:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

14:51:39 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: We'll wait for Bernadette

Hadley Beeman: We'll wait for Bernadette

14:51:50 <sandro> lots of PEOPLE issues....

lots of PEOPLE issues....

14:52:00 <sandro> PhilA: Those can all be closed.  I'll do that.

Phil Archer: Those can all be closed. I'll do that.

14:52:05 <sandro> issue-47?

ISSUE-47?

14:52:05 <trackbot> ISSUE-47 -- RegOrg should be defined as an Org profile -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-47 -- RegOrg should be defined as an Org profile -- raised

14:52:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/47

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/47

14:52:28 <sandro> PhilA: Yes, I'm planning to do this.

Phil Archer: Yes, I'm planning to do this.

14:52:30 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers

14:52:51 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: You've been talking about this for a while, and everyone seems supportive

Hadley Beeman: You've been talking about this for a while, and everyone seems supportive

14:53:27 <sandro> action: Phil to define RegOrg as a profile of org (and mark ISSUE-47 as closed)

ACTION: Phil to define RegOrg as a profile of org (and mark ISSUE-47 as closed)

14:53:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Define RegOrg as a profile of org (and mark ISSUE-47 as closed) [on Phil Archer - due 2013-04-11].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-111 - Define RegOrg as a profile of org (and mark ISSUE-47 as closed) [on Phil Archer - due 2013-04-11].

14:53:41 <sandro> issue-54

ISSUE-54

14:53:41 <trackbot> ISSUE-54 -- Relationship of DCAT and VoID -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-54 -- Relationship of DCAT and VoID -- raised

14:53:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/54

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/54

14:54:05 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: I don't recall any discussion of this recently

Hadley Beeman: I don't recall any discussion of this recently

14:54:11 <sandro> (no one else does either)

(no one else does either)

14:54:41 <sandro> topic: dir.w3.org

7. dir.w3.org

14:54:49 <sandro> sandro: I saw the email; I haven't tried it yet

Sandro Hawke: I saw the email; I haven't tried it yet

14:55:07 <sandro> DaveReynolds: I thought there was a slight error in the vocab usage, which I think they're fixing

Dave Reynolds: I thought there was a slight error in the vocab usage, which I think they're fixing

14:55:14 <sandro> .. so maybe good to hold off

.. so maybe good to hold off

14:55:42 <sandro> topic: F2F

8. F2F

14:55:53 <sandro> phil: W3C is taking care of tea and coffee and the polycom

Phil Archer: W3C is taking care of tea and coffee and the polycom

14:57:26 <sandro> sandro: I think I can attend most of it remotely.

Sandro Hawke: I think I can attend most of it remotely.

14:57:37 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers

14:57:40 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Great.   See / talk to you all next week in Dublin!

Hadley Beeman: Great. See / talk to you all next week in Dublin!

14:57:41 <Zakim> -james

Zakim IRC Bot: -james

14:57:42 <DaveReynolds> bye

Dave Reynolds: bye

14:57:42 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA

14:57:42 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:57:43 <sandro> ADJOURN

ADJOURN

14:57:43 <Zakim> -TallTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed

14:57:47 <MariosMeimaris> bye

Marios Meimaris: bye

14:57:50 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

14:57:51 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds

14:57:51 <Zakim> -MariosMeimaris

Zakim IRC Bot: -MariosMeimaris

14:57:51 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

14:57:51 <Zakim> Attendees were HadleyBeeman, PhilA, Sandro, TallTed, DaveReynolds, james, MakxDekkers, MariosMeimaris

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were HadleyBeeman, PhilA, Sandro, TallTed, DaveReynolds, james, MakxDekkers, MariosMeimaris

14:58:10 <HadleyBeeman> Thank you, Sandro, for scribing :)

Hadley Beeman: Thank you, Sandro, for scribing :)



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