GLD Ad-hoc meeting to discuss vocabularies, esp. DCAT

Minutes of 28 November 2011

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Benedikt Kaempgen, Christophe Gueret, Fadi Maali, Gerald Steeman, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, John Erickson, Martín Álvarez, Phil Archer, Raphaël Troncy, Richard Cyganiak, Ronald Reck
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John Erickson, Phil Archer
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14:04:00 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/28-gld-irc

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14:04:23 <PhilA2> cygri: Are you on the call?

Richard Cyganiak: Are you on the call? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:04:27 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:04:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson (muted), PhilA2, +26006aabb, rreck (muted), Makx, raphael, GeraldSteeman, Martín Álvarez (muted), +90700006aacc

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14:05:01 <olyerickson> @PhilA nope

John Erickson: @PhilA nope

14:05:14 <Zakim> +cygri

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14:05:28 <cgueret> how do you know what's your number with a voip phone?

Christophe Gueret: how do you know what's your number with a voip phone?

14:05:37 <olyerickson> @cygri hi! ;)

John Erickson: @cygri hi! ;)

14:05:40 <PhilA2> zaki, who is here?

Phil Archer: zaki, who is here?

14:05:46 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

14:05:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson (muted), PhilA2, +26006aabb, rreck (muted), Makx, raphael, GeraldSteeman, Martín Álvarez (muted), +90700006aacc, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see olyerickson (muted), PhilA2, +26006aabb, rreck (muted), Makx, raphael, GeraldSteeman, Martín Álvarez (muted), +90700006aacc, cygri

14:05:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see George, RRSAgent, Martín Álvarez, BenediktKaempgen, atemezin, GeraldSteeman, olyerickson, danbri, cgueret, Makx, rreck, HadleyBeeman1, Zakim, PhilA2, cygri, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see George, RRSAgent, Martín Álvarez, BenediktKaempgen, atemezin, GeraldSteeman, olyerickson, danbri, cgueret, Makx, rreck, HadleyBeeman1, Zakim, PhilA2, cygri, trackbot, sandro

14:05:52 <cygri> zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me

14:05:52 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it

14:06:04 <rreck> cgueret: i just look who it shows joins when i join

Christophe Gueret: i just look who it shows joins when i join [ Scribe Assist by Ronald Reck ]

14:06:16 <PhilA2> Topic: DCAT

1. DCAT

14:06:22 <PhilA2> Current version at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference

Phil Archer: Current version at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference

14:06:54 <olyerickson> Q's for DCAT:

John Erickson: Q's for DCAT:

14:06:57 <olyerickson> 1. Stable?

John Erickson: 1. Stable?

14:07:06 <olyerickson> 2. What it will take for DCAT to be stable?

John Erickson: 2. What it will take for DCAT to be stable?

14:07:16 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary

Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary

14:07:31 <olyerickson> cygri: Will recap

Richard Cyganiak: Will recap [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

14:07:35 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Use_Cases_and_Requirements

Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Use_Cases_and_Requirements

14:07:44 <olyerickson> ... see pages linked above

John Erickson: ... see pages linked above

14:07:57 <olyerickson> ... esp. use cases DCAT is designed to address

John Erickson: ... esp. use cases DCAT is designed to address

14:08:26 <olyerickson> ... history: Emerged from work at DERI

John Erickson: ... history: Emerged from work at DERI

14:08:41 <PhilA2> scribe: olyerickson

(Scribe set to John Erickson)

14:08:52 <olyerickson> ... based on existing data catalogs incl Data.gov

... based on existing data catalogs incl Data.gov

14:09:08 <PhilA2> zakim, room for 2 more?

Phil Archer: zakim, room for 2 more?

14:09:08 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, PhilA2.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, PhilA2.

14:09:14 <olyerickson> ... DERI compared sites, tried to capture "common core"

... DERI compared sites, tried to capture "common core"

14:09:23 <olyerickson> ... moved work into eGov IG

... moved work into eGov IG

14:09:42 <olyerickson> ... Weekly ccalls, input, review of use cases

... Weekly ccalls, input, review of use cases

14:09:51 <PhilA2> zakim, how many ports available now?

Phil Archer: zakim, how many ports available now?

14:09:51 <Zakim> on Mon Nov 28 09:09:00 2011 I see overbooked, overbooked 30 minutes later, and overbooked 60 minutes later

Zakim IRC Bot: on Mon Nov 28 09:09:00 2011 I see overbooked, overbooked 30 minutes later, and overbooked 60 minutes later

14:10:04 <olyerickson> ... Have seen increase in adoption

... Have seen increase in adoption

14:10:55 <PhilA2> cygri: Lists several existing users of DCAT (UK, ES etc.)

Richard Cyganiak: Lists several existing users of DCAT (UK, ES etc.) [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:11:12 <PhilA2> ... used by OKFN for federated catalogue etc

Phil Archer: ... used by OKFN for federated catalogue etc

14:11:27 <rreck> i can drop and let hadley join

Ronald Reck: i can drop and let hadley join

14:11:29 <PhilA2> .. progress on spec hasn't kept pace wtih implementation

Phil Archer: .. progress on spec hasn't kept pace wtih implementation

14:11:46 <rreck> im just a lurker

Ronald Reck: im just a lurker

14:11:50 <hadleybeeman> Thanks, rreck— but no worries.  I can catch up later.

Hadley Beeman: Thanks, rreck— but no worries. I can catch up later.

14:12:35 <PhilA2> cygri: As for how stable it is? Since we have given the work to the GLD, it's as stable as this community wants it to be

Richard Cyganiak: As for how stable it is? Since we have given the work to the GLD, it's as stable as this community wants it to be [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:12:47 <PhilA2> ... if it becomes a Rec then it needs to go through the process

Phil Archer: ... if it becomes a Rec then it needs to go through the process

14:12:55 <PhilA2> ... open to feedback from the community and so on

Phil Archer: ... open to feedback from the community and so on

14:13:31 <PhilA2> ... there would be voices along the way saying that X, Y and Z is missing/shouldn't be there and so on

Phil Archer: ... there would be voices along the way saying that X, Y and Z is missing/shouldn't be there and so on

14:13:47 <PhilA2> ... personal speculation - the core of DCAT is nothing new but Dublin Core

Phil Archer: ... personal speculation - the core of DCAT is nothing new but Dublin Core

14:13:56 <olyerickson> ... regarding stability, depends on influences at this point (adoption => stable, input => improve it)

... regarding stability, depends on influences at this point (adoption => stable, input => improve it)

14:14:03 <PhilA2> ... vast majority of properties from DC, SKOS and FOAF - they are completely stable

Phil Archer: ... vast majority of properties from DC, SKOS and FOAF - they are completely stable

14:14:15 <PhilA2> scribe: PhilA2

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

14:14:29 <PhilA2> cygri: DCAT assembles existing properties and recommends they're used

Richard Cyganiak: DCAT assembles existing properties and recommends they're used

14:14:49 <PhilA2> ... DCAT only adds a limited number of fairly simple things beyond these exitsing properties

... DCAT only adds a limited number of fairly simple things beyond these exitsing properties

14:14:59 <PhilA2> .. only a few extra ones not found in DC etc.

.. only a few extra ones not found in DC etc.

14:15:22 <PhilA2> ... may or may not be relevance to otehr catalogues

... may or may not be relevance to otehr catalogues

14:15:33 <olyerickson> ... Handle of additional properties

John Erickson: ... Handful of additional properties

14:15:44 <olyerickson> s/Handle/Handful/
14:15:51 <PhilA2> ... catalogue 'Distribution' etc. and a few classes/conectors

... catalogue 'Distribution' etc. and a few classes/conectors

14:16:22 <olyerickson> ... Introduces new classes...."no brainer" ... reeeeally straighforward

John Erickson: ... Introduces new classes...."no brainer" ... reeeeally straighforward

14:16:33 <PhilA2> ... Catalogue record may be a little less obvious as right

... Catalogue record may be a little less obvious as right

14:16:49 <PhilA2> ... but dataset and distribution shouldn't cvhange as you see them everywhere

... but dataset and distribution shouldn't cvhange as you see them everywhere

14:16:54 <olyerickson> ... DCAT reflects structure/org seen in most catalogs

John Erickson: ... DCAT reflects structure/org seen in most catalogs

14:17:11 <PhilA2> ... has some conventions and bits of vocab to deal with different distributions of the datasets

... has some conventions and bits of vocab to deal with different distributions of the datasets

14:17:32 <olyerickson> ... describes not only metadata but also HOW TO ACCESS

John Erickson: ... describes not only metadata but also HOW TO ACCESS

14:17:47 <PhilA2> scribe: olyerickson

(Scribe set to John Erickson)

14:17:59 <olyerickson> ... a bit more complicated than it might appear

... a bit more complicated than it might appear

14:18:10 <olyerickson> ... are different distributions the same, different?

... are different distributions the same, different?

14:18:21 <olyerickson> ... what is a "download?" an "API?" etc

... what is a "download?" an "API?" etc

14:18:38 <olyerickson> ... Current DCAT version is a "reasonable" draft of a design

... Current DCAT version is a "reasonable" draft of a design

14:18:47 <olyerickson> ... but it can be improved

... but it can be improved

14:19:07 <olyerickson> ... e.g. how to classify distributions, what are the properties on a distribution, etc

... e.g. how to classify distributions, what are the properties on a distribution, etc

14:19:28 <olyerickson> ... summary: this is cygri's take on where DCAT makes a contribution

... summary: this is cygri's take on where DCAT makes a contribution

14:19:51 <olyerickson> ... cygri would like to see: GLD produce a doc that is "in line" with current DCAT docs

... cygri would like to see: GLD produce a doc that is "in line" with current DCAT docs

14:20:08 <olyerickson> ... need more than vocab ref, but also an application/implementation guide

... need more than vocab ref, but also an application/implementation guide

14:20:32 <olyerickson> ... perhaps use cases/requirements (depends on interpretation of GLD charter)

... perhaps use cases/requirements (depends on interpretation of GLD charter)

14:21:05 <olyerickson> ... cygri would like to see vocab ref doc to be produced ASAP

... cygri would like to see vocab ref doc to be produced ASAP

14:21:18 <olyerickson> ... need colunteers

... need colunteers

14:21:30 <olyerickson> ... cygri would love to, but can't

... cygri would love to, but can't

14:21:48 <olyerickson> John Erickson: I can co-edit but not solo-edit

John Erickson: I can co-edit but not solo-edit

14:22:38 <olyerickson> ... cygri's perceived identification w/ DCAT might have slowed down progress

... cygri's perceived identification w/ DCAT might have slowed down progress

14:23:03 <olyerickson> ... Welcomes others to pick it up and take it through The Process(tm)

... Welcomes others to pick it up and take it through The Process(tm)

14:23:08 <fadmaa> I am glad to co-edit as well

Fadi Maali: I am glad to co-edit as well

14:23:26 <BenediktKaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+

14:23:36 <PhilA2> ack BenediktKaempgen

Phil Archer: ack BenediktKaempgen

14:23:42 <olyerickson> PhilA: please use Q+ for questions

Phil Archer: please use Q+ for questions

14:23:55 <olyerickson> Benedikt: What is the relation between DCAT and Void, etc

Benedikt Kaempgen: What is the relation between DCAT and Void, etc

14:24:25 <olyerickson> cygri: TBH, they have different core focii

Richard Cyganiak: TBH, they have different core focii

14:24:45 <olyerickson> ... void is metadata for RDF datasets

... void is metadata for RDF datasets

14:24:56 <olyerickson> ... DCAT is about any datasets

... DCAT is about any datasets

14:25:14 <olyerickson> ... both have been developed independently

... both have been developed independently

14:25:35 <olyerickson> ... void cand dcat are different projects, diofferent use cases

... void cand dcat are different projects, different use cases

14:26:00 <olyerickson> ... void is about different distribution of a DCAT dataset

... void is about different distribution of a DCAT dataset

14:26:23 <olyerickson> ... not sure where the best place is to write this up

... not sure where the best place is to write this up

14:26:27 <cygri> q?

Richard Cyganiak: q?

14:26:34 <Martín Álvarez> s/diofferent/different
14:27:01 <olyerickson> yes!

yes!

14:27:32 <olyerickson> PhilA: Proposes that he and olyerickson work together to get docs into "working draft" format

Phil Archer: Proposes that he and olyerickson work together to get docs into "working draft" format

14:27:43 <olyerickson> ... there is a process but

... there is a process but

14:28:08 <olyerickson> ... given the existing drafts, there are steps that we should get past fairly quickly

... given the existing drafts, there are steps that we should get past fairly quickly

14:28:25 <olyerickson> ... but PhilA might be in cloud cookie land

... but PhilA might be in cloud cookie land

14:28:58 <olyerickson> ... given that, a working draft produced ca Xmas, candidate draft not long after

... given that, a working draft produced ca Xmas, candidate draft not long after

14:29:29 <olyerickson> ... TWC RPI IOGDS will be aligned with DCATp proposal shortly

... TWC RPI IOGDS will be aligned with DCATp proposal shortly

14:29:59 <olyerickson> ... So: candidate recommendation stage not long away...npt a drawn-out process at this point

... So: candidate recommendation stage not long away...npt a drawn-out process at this point

14:30:19 <olyerickson> cygri: Big advantage that so much work has already gone into this

Richard Cyganiak: Big advantage that so much work has already gone into this

14:30:37 <olyerickson> ... we are not starting from scratch

... we are not starting from scratch

14:31:05 <olyerickson> PhilA: Also will serve as a sign of GLD WG progress

Phil Archer: Also will serve as a sign of GLD WG progress

14:31:22 <olyerickson> Topic: ADMS

2. ADMS

14:31:50 <olyerickson> Introducing Makx Dekkers

Introducing Makx Dekkers

14:31:59 <PhilA2> ADMS = Asset Description Metadata Schema

Phil Archer: ADMS = Asset Description Metadata Schema

14:32:27 <olyerickson> ... "Interoperability Assets"

... "Interoperability Assets"

14:32:34 <PhilA2> Current draft of ADMS is in a PDF at http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf

Phil Archer: Current draft of ADMS is in a PDF at http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf

14:32:42 <olyerickson> For background in Makx see: http://makxdekkers.com/

For background in Makx see: http://makxdekkers.com/

14:33:06 <olyerickson> ... DCAT could be an interoperability asset

... DCAT could be an interoperability asset

14:33:12 <PhilA2> ADMS designed to describe code lsist, specifications etc. as well as datasets in the DCAT sense

Phil Archer: ADMS designed to describe code lsist, specifications etc. as well as datasets in the DCAT sense

14:33:25 <olyerickson> ... ADMS is about finding common way to describe such assets

... ADMS is about finding common way to describe such assets

14:33:41 <olyerickson> ... ADMS starts with defining conceptual model

... ADMS starts with defining conceptual model

14:33:57 <olyerickson> ... closely follows how DCAT looks at things

... closely follows how DCAT looks at things

14:34:16 <olyerickson> ... that's because it's a "no brainer" ;)

... that's because it's a "no brainer" ;)

14:34:36 <olyerickson> ... first round: "conceptual model"

... first round: "conceptual model"

14:35:03 <olyerickson> ... examining existing vocabs, "picking and chosing" properties and relationships

... examining existing vocabs, "picking and chosing" properties and relationships

14:35:24 <olyerickson> ... challenge: implementing as both RDF vocab and XML schema (ugh...)

... challenge: implementing as both RDF vocab and XML schema (ugh...)

14:35:28 <PhilA2> me, Makx and Andrea Perego of JRC (cf. INSPIRE) already looking at using DCAT as basis for ADMS classes and properties

Phil Archer: me, Makx and Andrea Perego of JRC (cf. INSPIRE) already looking at using DCAT as basis for ADMS classes and properties

14:35:52 <olyerickson> ... classes, entities, properties, relationships

... classes, entities, properties, relationships

14:36:17 <olyerickson> ... Second part of document: identifying controlled vocabs that require agreement

... Second part of document: identifying controlled vocabs that require agreement

14:36:25 <olyerickson> ... e.g. asset types

... e.g. asset types

14:36:32 <olyerickson> ... files formats

... files formats

14:36:34 <olyerickson> ... status

... status

14:36:37 <olyerickson> ... etc

... etc

14:37:19 <olyerickson> ... ADMS provides model with classes that is consistent with DCAT... trying to not invent new vocab terms

... ADMS provides model with classes that is consistent with DCAT... trying to not invent new vocab terms

14:37:52 <olyerickson> ... trying to create bettwe way of linking information provided in one env. with info in another

... trying to create bettwe way of linking information provided in one env. with info in another

14:38:04 <olyerickson> ... agressive timeline (next week!)

... agressive timeline (next week!)

14:38:35 <olyerickson> ... reminder: this is the first stagge; WG draft next week, published for public comment early next week

... reminder: this is the first stagge; WG draft next week, published for public comment early next week

14:38:39 <olyerickson> (year)

(year)

14:39:04 <olyerickson> ... after pilot phase, expected to re-visit

... after pilot phase, expected to re-visit

14:39:27 <olyerickson> ... looking to align ADMS work with DCAT work (existing and moving forward)

... looking to align ADMS work with DCAT work (existing and moving forward)

14:39:45 <olyerickson> PhilA: ADMS provides another example of implementation

Phil Archer: ADMS provides another example of implementation

14:40:08 <olyerickson> ... EU will say, "when you publish pub. information, you *will* use ADMS"

... EU will say, "when you publish pub. information, you *will* use ADMS"

14:40:25 <olyerickson> ... everything is headed in the right direction

... everything is headed in the right direction

14:40:35 <olyerickson> ... thus far, no resistance to using DCAT

... thus far, no resistance to using DCAT

14:40:50 <olyerickson> ... so far, no bias against DCAT

... so far, no bias against DCAT

14:41:05 <olyerickson> ... Looks like more evidence that DCAT is useful et all

... Looks like more evidence that DCAT is useful et all

14:41:21 <olyerickson> @PhilA my pleasure ;)

@PhilA my pleasure ;)

14:41:46 <olyerickson> PhilA: ADMS timeline is agressive but will help move things along

Phil Archer: ADMS timeline is agressive but will help move things along

14:42:02 <olyerickson> ... W3C publishing moratorium

... W3C publishing moratorium

14:42:22 <olyerickson> q+

q+

14:42:31 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.

zakim, unmute me.

14:42:31 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted

14:42:32 <PhilA2> ack olyerickson

Phil Archer: ack olyerickson

14:42:42 <PhilA2> olyerickson: Extremely exciting

John Erickson: Extremely exciting [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:43:25 <PhilA2> olyerickson: Glad that work should help with W3C process

John Erickson: Glad that work should help with W3C process [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:43:49 <PhilA2> olyerickson: some concern over speed, getting unfinished business into DCAT

John Erickson: some concern over speed, getting unfinished business into DCAT [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:43:59 <atemezin> @Olyerickson:--it is difficult to follow you on the phone...

Ghislain Atemezing: @Olyerickson:--it is difficult to follow you on the phone...

14:44:05 <PhilA2> ... getting some of the things that should logically be with DCAT

Phil Archer: ... getting some of the things that should logically be with DCAT

14:44:17 <olyerickson> sorry

sorry

14:44:32 <Zakim> - +90700006aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: - +90700006aacc

14:44:40 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:44:47 <PhilA2> olyerickson: concerned about getting last minyute changes into DCAT

John Erickson: concerned about getting last minyute changes into DCAT [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:44:57 <PhilA2> ... don'think it's much of a prob but is Primary concern

Phil Archer: ... don'think it's much of a prob but is Primary concern

14:45:07 <PhilA2> ... things like dct:language

Phil Archer: ... things like dct:language

14:45:10 <PhilA2> ack cygri

Phil Archer: ack cygri

14:45:14 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.

zakim, mute me.

14:45:14 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted

14:45:26 <PhilA2> cygri: responding to John

Richard Cyganiak: responding to John [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:45:33 <Zakim> + +34.00.0.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.00.0.aadd

14:45:46 <olyerickson> cygri: given the timeline, focus the 1sr working draft on what's already there

Richard Cyganiak: given the timeline, focus the 1sr working draft on what's already there

14:45:55 <olyerickson> ... don't get into changing things

... don't get into changing things

14:45:56 <PhilA2> ... given the time line, might make sense FPWD focus on what's already there without too much work on what might change in future

Phil Archer: ... given the time line, might make sense FPWD focus on what's already there without too much work on what might change in future

14:46:02 <olyerickson> ... olyerickson: makes sense!

... olyerickson: makes sense!

14:46:15 <PhilA2> cygri: if there's only 2-3 weeks then that might be all that we can do

Richard Cyganiak: if there's only 2-3 weeks then that might be all that we can do [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:46:17 <PhilA2> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:46:22 <olyerickson> ... cygri: simply getting it into W3C style will be enough of a challenge

... cygri: simply getting it into W3C style will be enough of a challenge

14:46:38 <olyerickson> ... also, remember it is the 1st public working draft

... also, remember it is the 1st public working draft

14:46:51 <olyerickson> ... no time for additions/modifications

... no time for additions/modifications

14:47:06 <olyerickson> ... then it will go through the W3C "machine:

... then it will go through the W3C "machine:

14:47:19 <olyerickson> ... as it draws attention, it will get feedback

... as it draws attention, it will get feedback

14:47:29 <PhilA2> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

14:47:30 <olyerickson> ... purpose is to but a flag in the ground

... purpose is to but a flag in the ground

14:47:36 <olyerickson> +1 to that, thanks!

+1 to that, thanks!

14:48:01 <olyerickson> PhilA: In no way will ADMS or other work shortcut the W3C process

Phil Archer: In no way will ADMS or other work shortcut the W3C process

14:48:27 <olyerickson> ... *if* we are inundated with feedback, we will still follow the W3C process

... *if* we are inundated with feedback, we will still follow the W3C process

14:49:05 <olyerickson> ... ADMS needs an "indication" of what's coming, doesn't require/depend on that

... ADMS needs an "indication" of what's coming, doesn't require/depend on that

14:49:12 <olyerickson> +1 PhilA thanks

+1 PhilA thanks

14:49:35 <olyerickson> PhilA: Summary: ADMS not trying to replace etc DCAT. more about support

Phil Archer: Summary: ADMS not trying to replace etc DCAT. more about support

14:50:14 <olyerickson> PhilA: Do the people on phone need calls?

Phil Archer: Do the people on phone need calls?

14:50:46 <olyerickson> cygri: not sure if dedicated calls needed

Richard Cyganiak: not sure if dedicated calls needed

14:50:52 <olyerickson> ... sees the advantages

... sees the advantages

14:51:18 <olyerickson> ... but still some searching in main GLD call

... but still some searching in main GLD call

14:51:29 <olyerickson> ... at the moment, overload GLD call

... at the moment, overload GLD call

14:51:44 <olyerickson> +1 to using GLD call bandwidth for this untilw e get kicked out

+1 to using GLD call bandwidth for this untilw e get kicked out

14:52:19 <BenediktKaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+

14:52:25 <olyerickson> ... also concerned about DCAT work being taken out of GLD

... also concerned about DCAT work being taken out of GLD

14:52:31 <PhilA2> ack BenediktKaempgen

Phil Archer: ack BenediktKaempgen

14:53:20 <cygri> cygri: no very strong opinion either way

Richard Cyganiak: no very strong opinion either way [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ]

14:53:34 <olyerickson> BenediktKaempgen: Could have DCAT work discussed in task forces we expect to break out of GLD

Benedikt Kaempgen: Could have DCAT work discussed in task forces we expect to break out of GLD

14:53:59 <olyerickson> ... there will be community directory, standard vocabs, etc

... there will be community directory, standard vocabs, etc

14:54:18 <olyerickson> PhilA: Hearing a concensus (I agree with what they said BTW)

Phil Archer: Hearing a concensus (I agree with what they said BTW)

14:54:54 <atemezin> +1 to what @Benedikt said..

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to what @Benedikt said..

14:54:54 <olyerickson> ... of the Chairs feel the weekly calls are being overloaded, then it would be sensible to take them into separate calls

... of the Chairs feel the weekly calls are being overloaded, then it would be sensible to take them into separate calls

14:55:02 <olyerickson> @PhilA nope

@PhilA nope

14:55:30 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.

zakim, unmute me.

14:55:30 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted

14:56:07 <olyerickson> ACTION: PhilA and olyerickson to begin work on community draft

ACTION: PhilA and olyerickson to begin work on community draft

14:56:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-24 - And olyerickson to begin work on community draft [on Phil Archer - due 2011-12-05].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-24 - And olyerickson to begin work on community draft [on Phil Archer - due 2011-12-05].

14:56:56 <olyerickson> PhilA, can you ro9ll up the minutes?

PhilA, can you ro9ll up the minutes?

14:57:05 <olyerickson> thanks!

thanks!

14:57:10 <atemezin> thanks!!

Ghislain Atemezing: thanks!!

14:57:15 <Zakim> - +34.00.0.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: - +34.00.0.aadd

14:57:16 <rreck> bye

Ronald Reck: bye

14:57:16 <Zakim> -PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2

14:57:17 <Zakim> -raphael

Zakim IRC Bot: -raphael

14:57:19 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

14:57:20 <Zakim> - +26006aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +26006aabb

14:57:20 <Zakim> -Martín Álvarez

Zakim IRC Bot: -Martín Álvarez

14:57:22 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks

Benedikt Kaempgen: thanks

14:57:22 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

14:57:25 <Zakim> -rreck

Zakim IRC Bot: -rreck

14:57:31 <PhilA2> rrsagent, make logs public

Phil Archer: rrsagent, make logs public

14:57:57 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman

14:58:37 <PhilA2> meeting: GLD Ad-hoc meeting to discuss vocabularies, esp. DCAT


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