Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 17 November 2011

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Nov/0018.html
Seen
Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Biplav Srivastava, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Christophe Gueret, Cory Casanave, Dan Gillman, Gerald Steeman, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Lyle Burgoon, Michael Hausenblas, Phil Archer, Richard Cyganiak, Ronald Reck, Sandro Hawke, Yigal Arens
Chair
Bernadette Hyland
Scribe
Phil Archer
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. minutes accepted link
  2. That we will hold the January face to face meeting in 2 locations link
Topics
14:59:35 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-gld-irc

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14:59:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD

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14:59:40 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

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14:59:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:59:44 <trackbot> Date: 17 November 2011
14:59:46 <gatemezi> Hi all..

Ghislain Atemezing: Hi all..

14:59:52 <sandro> zakim, this is gld

Sandro Hawke: zakim, this is gld

14:59:55 <gatemezi> Zakim, wo is here?

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, wo is here?

14:59:57 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

14:59:58 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not understand your question

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not understand your question

15:00:12 <PhilA2> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

15:00:13 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/  -- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17

Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17

15:00:24 <boris> michael the code

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: michael the code

15:00:24 <boris> 45394#

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: 45394#

15:00:30 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2

15:00:51 <Zakim> +cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri

15:00:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:00:55 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am cygri

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am cygri

15:01:05 <mhausenblas> Zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me

15:01:11 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri

15:01:16 <PhilA2> zakim, IPcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, IPcaller is me

15:01:21 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it

15:01:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

15:01:35 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it

15:01:41 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aacc

15:01:46 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aacc is me

Hadley Beeman: zakim, aacc is me

15:01:47 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it

15:01:53 <Yigal> zakim, IPcaller.a is me

Yigal Arens: zakim, IPcaller.a is me

15:01:53 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it

15:02:15 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aadd

15:02:15 <PhilA2> scribe: PhilA2

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

15:02:22 <PhilA2> scribenick: PhilA2
15:02:25 <BernHyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:02:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see David, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, +1.757.604.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see David, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, +1.757.604.aadd

15:02:48 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

15:02:59 <GeraldSteeman> Zakim, aadd is me.

Gerald Steeman: Zakim, aadd is me.

15:02:59 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +GeraldSteeman; got it

15:03:02 <Zakim> +Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory

15:03:15 <Zakim> + +1.919.541.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.919.541.aaee

15:03:16 <BernHyland> David is bhyland

Bernadette Hyland: David is bhyland

15:03:28 <BernHyland> bhyland is BernHyland

Bernadette Hyland: bhyland is BernHyland

15:03:46 <PhilA2> zakim, David is really BernHyland

zakim, David is really BernHyland

15:03:47 <Zakim> +BernHyland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernHyland; got it

15:03:59 <PhilA2> chair: BernHyland
15:04:30 <Zakim> +??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8

15:05:02 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

15:05:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see BernHyland, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BernHyland, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8

15:05:05 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

15:05:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see rreck, John, Cory, LyleBurgoon, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA2, GeraldSteeman, Yigal, boris, DanG, HadleyBeeman, mhausenblas, MacTed, BenediktKaempgen,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see rreck, John, Cory, LyleBurgoon, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA2, GeraldSteeman, Yigal, boris, DanG, HadleyBeeman, mhausenblas, MacTed, BenediktKaempgen,

15:05:11 <Zakim> ... gatemezi, BernHyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... gatemezi, BernHyland, trackbot, sandro

15:05:42 <PhilA2> zakim, aaaa is DanG

zakim, aaaa is DanG

15:05:42 <Zakim> +DanG; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DanG; got it

15:05:44 <gatemezi> Zakim, Ghislain is really gatemezi

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, Ghislain is really gatemezi

15:05:44 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named 'Ghislain'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named 'Ghislain'

15:05:46 <BernHyland> zakim, aaaa is DanG

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is DanG

15:05:46 <Zakim> sorry, BernHyland, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, BernHyland, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

15:06:16 <BenediktKaempgen> * benedikt is fine also, thanks boris

Benedikt Kaempgen: * benedikt is fine also, thanks boris

15:06:37 <PhilA2> zakim, aaaa is DanG

zakim, aaaa is DanG

15:06:37 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

15:06:46 <PhilA2> zakim, who is on the phone?

zakim, who is on the phone?

15:06:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8

15:06:49 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

15:06:55 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

15:07:29 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p9 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p9 is me

15:07:29 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

15:07:40 <LyleBurgoon> +1.919.541.aaee is LyleBurgoon

Lyle Burgoon: +1.919.541.aaee is LyleBurgoon

15:08:33 <cgueret_home> hello!

Christophe Gueret: hello!

15:08:44 <PhilA2> zakim, who is on the phone?

zakim, who is on the phone?

15:08:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8, BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8, BartvanLeeuwen

15:08:48 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen

15:09:37 <Zakim> +??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11

15:09:52 <PhilA2> Topic: Scribing

1. Scribing

15:09:52 <Zakim> + +91.11.41.29.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.11.41.29.aaff

15:10:07 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Asks for people to take scribing seriously and offer to do it :-)

Bernadette Hyland: Asks for people to take scribing seriously and offer to do it :-)

15:10:38 <PhilA2> zakim, aaff is Biplav

zakim, aaff is Biplav

15:10:38 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Biplav; got it

15:11:09 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Wants to record regrets too

Bernadette Hyland: Wants to record regrets too

15:11:22 <PhilA2> ... so that should be added to he checklist for each meeting

... so that should be added to he checklist for each meeting

15:11:28 <PhilA2> Topic: Last week's minutes

2. Last week's minutes

15:11:55 <Yigal> Today's agenda is http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17

Yigal Arens: Today's agenda is http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17

15:11:57 <PhilA2> minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Nov/0018.html
15:12:05 <PhilA2> s/minutes/agenda/
15:12:05 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 to minutes

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 to minutes

15:12:10 <HadleyBeeman> Cheers, Yigal and PhilA2! Much appreciated

Hadley Beeman: Cheers, Yigal and PhilA2! Much appreciated

15:12:18 <boris> last telecon minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-11-10

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: last telecon minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-11-10

15:12:26 <Yigal> +1 minutes

Yigal Arens: +1 minutes

15:12:50 <PhilA2> resolution: minutes accepted

RESOLVED: minutes accepted

15:13:04 <PhilA2> Topic: Current Action Items

3. Current Action Items

15:13:16 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Please don't be too shy of taking action items

Bernadette Hyland: Please don't be too shy of taking action items

15:13:22 <PhilA2> ... everyone is busy

... everyone is busy

15:13:23 <LyleBurgoon> zakim, aaee is LyleBurgoon

Lyle Burgoon: zakim, aaee is LyleBurgoon

15:13:23 <Zakim> +LyleBurgoon; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +LyleBurgoon; got it

15:13:30 <PhilA2> ... but we need to show progress

... but we need to show progress

15:13:42 <PhilA2> action-8 not discussed today as needs George

ACTION-8 not discussed today as needs George

15:14:11 <boris> ACTION 8?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: ACTION-8?

15:14:11 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

15:14:31 <PhilA2> Can't handle action 9 as John E not here

Can't handle ACTION-9 as John E not here

15:15:30 <PhilA2> action-11 pending

ACTION-11 pending

15:15:52 <PhilA2> action-13 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/13

ACTION-13 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/13

15:16:13 <PhilA2> DanG:We're working on a content model, registration model and catalogue model ??

Dan Gillman: We're working on a content model, registration model and catalogue model ??

15:16:19 <PhilA2> ... getting close to consensus

... getting close to consensus

15:16:36 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Do you want comments from this group?

Bernadette Hyland: Do you want comments from this group?

15:16:54 <PhilA2> DanG: Yes, but I have to get it out of the committee by Thursday

Dan Gillman: Yes, but I have to get it out of the committee by Thursday

15:17:09 <BernHyland> @PhilA2, we're going thru actions now & will hit each of the main deliverables categories next.

Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, we're going thru actions now & will hit each of the main deliverables categories next.

15:17:15 <PhilA2> ... work is under Dev, need to make sure with them that it's OK with them to put out to wider review

... work is under Dev, need to make sure with them that it's OK with them to put out to wider review

15:17:40 <PhilA2> PhilA2:  Notes that's the same situation I'm in with EU stuff

Phil Archer: Notes that's the same situation I'm in with EU stuff

15:17:51 <PhilA2> BernHyland: The sooner you can bring it to us the more we can help

Bernadette Hyland: The sooner you can bring it to us the more we can help

15:17:55 <Cory> +1 on wider review

Cory Casanave: +1 on wider review

15:18:02 <PhilA2> DanG: I'll see if I can post it in the nexct couple of days

Dan Gillman: I'll see if I can post it in the nexct couple of days

15:18:13 <PhilA2> action-15 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/15

ACTION-15 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/15

15:18:24 <PhilA2> BernHyland: George nad I have discussed it. We took a poll of 27 people

Bernadette Hyland: George nad I have discussed it. We took a poll of 27 people

15:18:44 <PhilA2> ... lots of people can make it to the f2f

... lots of people can make it to the f2f

15:19:02 <PhilA2> ... lots of people said that they could travel to Galway but yeses came with caveats

... lots of people said that they could travel to Galway but yeses came with caveats

15:19:17 <PhilA2> ... 2ndary location. Most people firmly said yes (of those that said yes)

... 2ndary location. Most people firmly said yes (of those that said yes)

15:19:24 <PhilA2> ... boils down to a 50-50 split

... boils down to a 50-50 split

15:19:38 <PhilA2> .. I cannot make it to Galway which I'd v much like to

.. I cannot make it to Galway which I'd v much like to

15:20:02 <PhilA2> ... would like to honour US/EU split but can't at the moment. George also not sure that he can travel

... would like to honour US/EU split but can't at the moment. George also not sure that he can travel

15:20:17 <PhilA2> ... puts us in an awkward situation sadly

... puts us in an awkward situation sadly

15:20:25 <PhilA2> Sandro does have permission to travel

Sandro does have permission to travel

15:20:35 <Cory> Lets decide we will do it in both locations

Cory Casanave: Lets decide we will do it in both locations

15:20:39 <sandro> survey results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/results

Sandro Hawke: survey results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/results

15:20:44 <PhilA2> BernHyland: What are people's feelings of having it in 2 locations?

Bernadette Hyland: What are people's feelings of having it in 2 locations?

15:20:54 <Cory> I think screen sharing is more important than video

Cory Casanave: I think screen sharing is more important than video

15:20:58 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Note that there is no video conferenceing available at DERI

Bernadette Hyland: Note that there is no video conferenceing available at DERI

15:21:16 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Going to be via dinky cameras on people's laptops

Bernadette Hyland: Going to be via dinky cameras on people's laptops

15:21:34 <PhilA2> sandro: It may not be that bad. I've had reasonable luck using a separate camera

Sandro Hawke: It may not be that bad. I've had reasonable luck using a separate camera

15:21:47 <BernHyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:21:48 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I'm really disappointed but it seems unavoidable

Bernadette Hyland: I'm really disappointed but it seems unavoidable

15:21:50 <Cory> W3c could charter a jet for us : )

Cory Casanave: W3c could charter a jet for us : )

15:22:00 <BartvanLeeuwen> :)

Bart van Leeuwen: :)

15:22:06 <HadleyBeeman> I am a bit concerned that the time zones will be hard if we are in two separate places.

Hadley Beeman: I am a bit concerned that the time zones will be hard if we are in two separate places.

15:22:29 <Yigal> Dagstuhl?

Yigal Arens: Dagstuhl?

15:22:43 <DanG> yes

Dan Gillman: yes

15:22:50 <PhilA2> BernHyland: +1 to Hadley

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to Hadley

15:23:00 <PhilA2> ... RDF WG started at 7am in Boston

... RDF WG started at 7am in Boston

15:23:16 <Biplav> Since the economic situation is similar for other WGs, how are they handling it? I am wondering if this will be typical for future meetings.

Biplav Srivastava: Since the economic situation is similar for other WGs, how are they handling it? I am wondering if this will be typical for future meetings.

15:23:46 <PhilA2> sandro: the agenda for the RDF WG we started at 07:00 ending at 15:00. Then we ended up talking among oursleves for a couple of hours befiore early dinner

Sandro Hawke: the agenda for the RDF WG we started at 07:00 ending at 15:00. Then we ended up talking among oursleves for a couple of hours befiore early dinner

15:23:57 <PhilA2> q+

q+

15:24:01 <Biplav> Dagstuhl is a very good idea

Biplav Srivastava: Dagstuhl is a very good idea

15:24:11 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I can get to a venue for a 07:00 start

Bernadette Hyland: I can get to a venue for a 07:00 start

15:24:39 <PhilA2> ??: it becomes a US breakout session in the afertnoon

Cory Casanave: it becomes a US breakout session in the afertnoon

15:24:47 <sandro> s/??/cory/
15:24:48 <PhilA2> q-

q-

15:25:04 <Yigal> Yes.

Yigal Arens: Yes.

15:25:10 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Dan suggested that his org can provide a location in DC

Bernadette Hyland: Dan suggested that his org can provide a location in DC

15:25:15 <GeraldSteeman> NSF

Gerald Steeman: NSF

15:25:29 <GeraldSteeman> NITR?

Gerald Steeman: NITR?

15:25:37 <PhilA2> ... and {??} can provide one for June

... and {??} can provide one for June

15:25:45 <sandro> NITRD

Sandro Hawke: NITRD

15:25:48 <PhilA2> {??} is NITRD

{??} is NITRD

15:26:07 <GeraldSteeman> Dan at BLS?

Gerald Steeman: Dan at BLS?

15:26:07 <PhilA2> close action-15

close ACTION-15

15:26:08 <trackbot> ACTION-15 Work on co-location tools and logistics closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-15 Work on co-location tools and logistics closed

15:26:10 <sandro> F2F1 was at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/F2F1

Sandro Hawke: F2F1 was at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/F2F1

15:26:28 <PhilA2> BernHyland: will work on dual location for 25-26 Jan 2012

Bernadette Hyland: will work on dual location for 25-26 Jan 2012

15:26:47 <PhilA2> BernHyland: George and I will work with DanG

Bernadette Hyland: George and I will work with DanG

15:27:07 <PhilA2> DanG: I need to know how many people to expect so I can get the right sized room, internet connections etc

Dan Gillman: I need to know how many people to expect so I can get the right sized room, internet connections etc

15:27:12 <BernHyland> Yes, Dan is at Bureau of Labor Statistics in DC, across from Union Station, easy access from Metro

Bernadette Hyland: Yes, Dan is at Bureau of Labor Statistics in DC, across from Union Station, easy access from Metro

15:27:25 <PhilA2> DanG: we're right across the street from Union Station

Dan Gillman: we're right across the street from Union Station

15:27:32 <PhilA2> sandro: I'd plan for 15

Sandro Hawke: I'd plan for 15

15:27:36 <Yigal> If we're in DC I'll go there instead of Galway.

Yigal Arens: If we're in DC I'll go there instead of Galway.

15:27:39 <PhilA2> DanG: 20 isn't a problem

Dan Gillman: 20 isn't a problem

15:28:05 <PhilA2> Proposed Resolution: That we will hold teh January face to face meeting in 2 locations

Proposed Resolution: That we will hold teh January face to face meeting in 2 locations

15:28:06 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to not seeing an alternative

Hadley Beeman: +1 to not seeing an alternative

15:28:10 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

15:28:25 <PhilA2> Resolution: That we will hold the January face to face meeting in 2 locations

RESOLVED: That we will hold the January face to face meeting in 2 locations

15:28:45 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I see no alternative

Michael Hausenblas: I see no alternative

15:28:45 <sandro> +1 yeah I'm not happy about it, but I don't see an alternative.    let's make it work.  :-)

Sandro Hawke: +1 yeah I'm not happy about it, but I don't see an alternative. let's make it work. :-)

15:29:10 <PhilA2> BernHyland: To be honest, we'll have a lot to look at on a screen anyway so I'm not too depressed about it in terms of it working

Bernadette Hyland: To be honest, we'll have a lot to look at on a screen anyway so I'm not too depressed about it in terms of it working

15:29:27 <PhilA2> ... I don't think we have the same level of difficulty that the RDF WG had

... I don't think we have the same level of difficulty that the RDF WG had

15:29:39 <PhilA2> q+ to ask about microphones etc.

q+ to ask about microphones etc.

15:30:28 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Can you reflect on the experience of the TPAC meeting

Phil Archer: Can you reflect on the experience of the TPAC meeting

15:30:44 <PhilA2> BernHyland: For one thing we in the GLD will all know each other better

Bernadette Hyland: For one thing we in the GLD will all know each other better

15:30:58 <PhilA2> ... since we're better acquainted, we should be more productive

... since we're better acquainted, we should be more productive

15:31:10 <PhilA2> ... many of our working relationships transcend the GLD

... many of our working relationships transcend the GLD

15:31:33 <PhilA2> ... hopefully if people have signed up then they're well focussed on the work

... hopefully if people have signed up then they're well focussed on the work

15:32:43 <BernHyland> PhilA2: Suggested that having skype calls if we only have one polycom … to be determined when we know more about the site.

Phil Archer: Suggested that having skype calls if we only have one polycom … to be determined when we know more about the site. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:33:17 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Both locations can offer multiple microphones on their Polycoms

Phil Archer: Both locations can offer multiple microphones on their Polycoms

15:33:37 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I think community building is important, shared meals etc.

Bernadette Hyland: I think community building is important, shared meals etc.

15:33:56 <PhilA2> ... I'm keen to have the next f2f in May or June in DERI

... I'm keen to have the next f2f in May or June in DERI

15:34:08 <PhilA2> ... travel budgets should be a little easier then we hope

... travel budgets should be a little easier then we hope

15:34:29 <PhilA2> sandro: The other logistics thing there is to plan to arrange the tables so that they sit closest to the microphones

Sandro Hawke: The other logistics thing there is to plan to arrange the tables so that they sit closest to the microphones

15:34:37 <gatemezi> +1 to building a strong gld community

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to building a strong gld community

15:34:48 <PhilA2> sandro: plan tables for audio

Sandro Hawke: plan tables for audio

15:35:01 <PhilA2> Topic: Task Force Updates

4. Task Force Updates

15:35:09 <BernHyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary

15:35:13 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Start with the community directory

Bernadette Hyland: Start with the community directory

15:35:24 <BernHyland> Beta version available http://dir.w3.org/

Bernadette Hyland: Beta version available http://dir.w3.org/

15:35:29 <PhilA2> ... we're in a beta phase with the dir now. We have the beta available now

... we're in a beta phase with the dir now. We have the beta available now

15:36:19 <PhilA2> BernHyland: this went up about 2 weeks ago.

Bernadette Hyland: this went up about 2 weeks ago.

15:36:30 <PhilA2> ... people have been sending requests for login

... people have been sending requests for login

15:36:33 <Zakim> + +1.218.296.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.218.296.aagg

15:36:42 <rreck> zakim, +1.218.296.aagg is me

Ronald Reck: zakim, +1.218.296.aagg is me

15:36:42 <Zakim> +rreck; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it

15:36:43 <PhilA2> ... we have 35 organisations that have filled out the details

... we have 35 organisations that have filled out the details

15:36:47 <rreck> i am muted

Ronald Reck: i am muted

15:36:57 <rreck> zakim, mute me

Ronald Reck: zakim, mute me

15:36:57 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should now be muted

15:37:08 <PhilA2> BernHyland: getting some nice feedback

Bernadette Hyland: getting some nice feedback

15:37:37 <PhilA2> ... Gannon mailed a lot of people and made noise in public

... Gannon mailed a lot of people and made noise in public

15:38:00 <PhilA2> ... can we keep it to the GLD WG, not others just yet (like LOD and eGov)

... can we keep it to the GLD WG, not others just yet (like LOD and eGov)

15:38:23 <PhilA2> .. most feedback has been +ve

.. most feedback has been +ve

15:38:30 <PhilA2> ... any thoughts

... any thoughts

15:38:32 <mhausenblas> looks great, congrats!

Michael Hausenblas: looks great, congrats!

15:39:07 <PhilA2> BernHyland: if your company isn't represented on the directory, please let me know (get a login and add yourself)

Bernadette Hyland: if your company isn't represented on the directory, please let me know (get a login and add yourself)

15:39:15 <PhilA2> Topic: best practices

5. best practices

15:39:19 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary

15:39:32 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: This wiki page is where people are making contributions

Michael Hausenblas: This wiki page is where people are making contributions

15:39:41 <PhilA2> ... I'm working to get stuff from the wiki

... I'm working to get stuff from the wiki

15:39:50 <mhausenblas> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/file/bcb72f87b5cc/bp

Michael Hausenblas: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/file/bcb72f87b5cc/bp

15:40:15 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: if you look at the wiki page you see a lot of people there but not all the pages are at the same stage

Michael Hausenblas: if you look at the wiki page you see a lot of people there but not all the pages are at the same stage

15:40:59 <PhilA2> boris: I was working on the BP for vocab selection and URI construction

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: I was working on the BP for vocab selection and URI construction

15:41:14 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/GLD_Life_cycle

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/GLD_Life_cycle

15:41:19 <PhilA2> ... I wanted to proposed a Gov LD life cycle based on what Bern and Michael have said

... I wanted to proposed a Gov LD life cycle based on what Bern and Michael have said

15:41:31 <PhilA2> ... and from UPN

... and from UPN

15:41:36 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: taht makes a lot of sense

Michael Hausenblas: taht makes a lot of sense

15:41:37 <gatemezi> I suggest to have a small meeting for this task

Ghislain Atemezing: I suggest to have a small meeting for this task

15:42:03 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I don't think we need to consolidate these life cycles . It's OK to say here are 3 diff approaches and you can see what works for you

Michael Hausenblas: I don't think we need to consolidate these life cycles . It's OK to say here are 3 diff approaches and you can see what works for you

15:42:18 <PhilA2> ... I;m more concerned with procurement and stability

... I'm more concerned with procurement and stability

15:42:27 <PhilA2> s/I;m/I'm/
15:42:43 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: do we keep it or drop it. If keeping it, it needs to be done

Michael Hausenblas: do we keep it or drop it. If keeping it, it needs to be done

15:43:05 <PhilA2> BernHyland: John Sheridan and M Pendleton offered to work on this but he needs to get past the blank page

Bernadette Hyland: John Sheridan and M Pendleton offered to work on this but he needs to get past the blank page

15:43:32 <PhilA2> action: BernHyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP

ACTION: BernHyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP

15:43:32 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - BernHyland

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - BernHyland

15:43:45 <PhilA2> action: Bernadette Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP

ACTION: Bernadette Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP

15:43:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-21 - Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-21 - Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24].

15:44:00 <rreck> i might have gone to that had i known

Ronald Reck: i might have gone to that had i known

15:44:32 <PhilA2> BernHyland: if there's someone in your professional network who can contribute then please have the discussion and bring that to the this group

Bernadette Hyland: if there's someone in your professional network who can contribute then please have the discussion and bring that to the this group

15:45:01 <PhilA2> ... the procurement process is very important. Often more important than the how to do it

... the procurement process is very important. Often more important than the how to do it

15:45:20 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: Much appreciated. I was hoping you'd offer to do that BernHyland

Michael Hausenblas: Much appreciated. I was hoping you'd offer to do that BernHyland

15:45:39 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I don't care what format it's in, I can add it to the wiki

Michael Hausenblas: I don't care what format it's in, I can add it to the wiki

15:45:55 <PhilA2> BernHyland: It's always easier to look at something and commetn than to start from scratch

Bernadette Hyland: It's always easier to look at something and commetn than to start from scratch

15:46:25 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I've got some experience now from work in the EPA on what the requirements might be

Bernadette Hyland: I've got some experience now from work in the EPA on what the requirements might be

15:46:39 <PhilA2> ... lots of governments copy from each other

... lots of governments copy from each other

15:46:57 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: versioning... a couple of people signed up for that but I don't see a lot there

Michael Hausenblas: versioning... a couple of people signed up for that but I don't see a lot there

15:47:08 <rreck> zakim, unmute me

Ronald Reck: zakim, unmute me

15:47:08 <Zakim> rreck should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should no longer be muted

15:47:09 <PhilA2> BernHyland: rreck do you have anything to add on this?

Bernadette Hyland: rreck do you have anything to add on this?

15:47:35 <PhilA2> rreck: I was talking to Anne about this yesterday. Very rough and not recordable now

Ronald Reck: I was talking to Anne about this yesterday. Very rough and not recordable now

15:48:03 <PhilA2> q+ to make a comment on and make a request stability issue

q+ to make a comment on and make a request stability issue

15:48:31 <PhilA2> action Ronald Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability

action Ronald Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability

15:48:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability [on Ronald Reck - due 2011-11-24].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-22 - Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability [on Ronald Reck - due 2011-11-24].

15:49:50 <PhilA2> action Bernadette Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price)

action Bernadette Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price)

15:49:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price) [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-23 - Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price) [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24].

15:50:08 <rreck> I can ask Bob if you want.

Ronald Reck: I can ask Bob if you want.

15:50:39 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Remember that readership will not be experts in LD!

Bernadette Hyland: Remember that readership will not be experts in LD!

15:51:00 <PhilA2> ... need to describe more, explain more. Explain what all these tools are and who they're run by (and perhaps why)

... need to describe more, explain more. Explain what all these tools are and who they're run by (and perhaps why)

15:51:26 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: On the LD Cookbook - maybe we can resolve issue 1 as it might become part of the directory?

Michael Hausenblas: On the LD Cookbook - maybe we can resolve ISSUE-1 as it might become part of the directory?

15:51:48 <PhilA2> BernHyland: We wanted to keep it as a wiki that could evolve rather than it be a (static) Rec

Bernadette Hyland: We wanted to keep it as a wiki that could evolve rather than it be a (static) Rec

15:52:36 <PhilA2> BernHyland: One piece of data that the directory could have is events. Lots of people asking for that. But advice from the cookbook doesn't feel right in the directory

Bernadette Hyland: One piece of data that the directory could have is events. Lots of people asking for that. But advice from the cookbook doesn't feel right in the directory

15:52:50 <PhilA2> ... but let's discuss it on the wiki

... but let's discuss it on the wiki

15:53:12 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I have to run to the next meeting. Thanks. I will solve all world problems before we meet again

Michael Hausenblas: I have to run to the next meeting. Thanks. I will solve all world problems before we meet again

15:53:27 <mhausenblas> I have to leave now, sorry - see you in two weeks time

Michael Hausenblas: I have to leave now, sorry - see you in two weeks time

15:53:51 <PhilA2> http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf

http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf

15:57:09 <Zakim> - +49.133.6.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +49.133.6.aabb

15:57:32 <PhilA2> PhilA2: described situation with ADMS and work in the SEMIC.EU project generally

Phil Archer: described situation with ADMS and work in the SEMIC.EU project generally

15:57:54 <PhilA2> ... Some people wary of putting things in the public domain for a variety of reasons

... Some people wary of putting things in the public domain for a variety of reasons

15:58:03 <PhilA2> Core: There's a UML profile of ?? in progress

Cory Casanave: There's a UML profile of ?? in progress

15:58:09 <PhilA2> s/Core/Cory/
15:58:31 <PhilA2> Cory: one of the things I'd like to explore is an RDRF mapping of that and an XML schema form

Cory Casanave: one of the things I'd like to explore is an RDF mapping of that and an XML schema form

15:58:41 <PhilA2> s/RDRF/RDF/
15:58:42 <Cory> http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx

Cory Casanave: http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx

15:58:52 <BernHyland> @PhilA2, @Cory please update the general vocab discussion wiki page with what you described today.

Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, @Cory please update the general vocab discussion wiki page with what you described today.

15:58:57 <Cory> This URL is the initial NEIM-UML submission: http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx

Cory Casanave: This URL is the initial NEIM-UML submission: http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx

16:00:02 <PhilA2> Cory: idea here is to get a UML representation here and then see if there's interest in supporting an RDF mapping in that

Cory Casanave: idea here is to get a UML representation here and then see if there's interest in supporting an RDF mapping in that

16:00:26 <PhilA2> Cory: there's so much domain work i this area. These could be used as reference for multiple vocabs

Cory Casanave: there's so much domain work i this area. These could be used as reference for multiple vocabs

16:01:10 <PhilA2> BernHyland: This is a big job. Volunteers won't be able to do this since iut isn't readily broken up into chunks

Bernadette Hyland: This is a big job. Volunteers won't be able to do this since iut isn't readily broken up into chunks

16:01:31 <PhilA2> BernHyland: This is a separate conversation, but this isn't a small project nad how do we get funding for it

Bernadette Hyland: This is a separate conversation, but this isn't a small project nad how do we get funding for it

16:02:18 <PhilA2> Cory: true, But the mapping to XML is understood and then the RDF on top of that is no more than months work, not years

Cory Casanave: true, But the mapping to XML is understood and then the RDF on top of that is no more than months work, not years

16:02:32 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

16:02:41 <PhilA2> Cory: I guess the question is how we handle vocabs that are not in RDF nad how we might handle those

Cory Casanave: I guess the question is how we handle vocabs that are not in RDF nad how we might handle those

16:02:47 <PhilA2> ack HadleyBeeman

ack HadleyBeeman

16:02:52 <PhilA2> q-

q-

16:03:03 <PhilA2> HadleyBeeman: What about the international perspective?

Hadley Beeman: What about the international perspective?

16:03:09 <PhilA2> ack me

ack me

16:03:41 <PhilA2> BernHyland: the terms we use are generic enough that they can be used anywhere. NIEM is more US-centric

Bernadette Hyland: the terms we use are generic enough that they can be used anywhere. NIEM is more US-centric

16:03:50 <PhilA2> Cory: I'm not sure I'd agree with that BernHyland

Cory Casanave: I'm not sure I'd agree with that BernHyland

16:04:28 <PhilA2> BernHyland: There's no participation, HadleyBeeman, that is bringing in international perspectives. Lots of hair balls already

Bernadette Hyland: There's no participation, HadleyBeeman, that is bringing in international perspectives. Lots of hair balls already

16:05:12 <Biplav> I need to disconnect. For action item #19, I need a location where I can add the use-cases. I understood from last meeting that a separate page was needed, and I would be pointed to it. Will check with BernHyland and add.

Biplav Srivastava: I need to disconnect. For action item #19, I need a location where I can add the use-cases. I understood from last meeting that a separate page was needed, and I would be pointed to it. Will check with BernHyland and add.

16:05:16 <PhilA2> BernHyland: We're having a hard time just getting people to add to a wiki

Bernadette Hyland: We're having a hard time just getting people to add to a wiki

16:05:47 <PhilA2> HadleyBeeman: I understand that. I'm also on the HTML vocab TF and it would be good to connect those

Hadley Beeman: I understand that. I'm also on the HTML Data TF and it would be good to connect those

16:05:51 <Zakim> -??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P11

16:06:09 <PhilA2> s/HTML vocab/HTML Data/
16:06:21 <PhilA2> BernHyland: WE don't have the nadwisth to look at non-RDF vocabs

Bernadette Hyland: WE don't have the nadwisth to look at non-RDF vocabs

16:06:37 <HadleyBeeman> HTML data task force: http://www.w3.org/wiki/Html-data-tf

Hadley Beeman: HTML data task force: http://www.w3.org/wiki/Html-data-tf

16:06:51 <PhilA2> Cory: No, but we should recognise that they exist and talk about how to brign them together

Cory Casanave: No, but we should recognise that they exist and talk about how to brign them together

16:07:47 <Zakim> -Biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: -Biplav

16:08:01 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Wrapping up meeting

Bernadette Hyland: Wrapping up meeting

16:08:15 <rreck> oh that is during semtech

Ronald Reck: oh that is during semtech

16:08:31 <rreck> great, three weeks

Ronald Reck: great, three weeks

16:08:31 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Next meeting in 3 weeks due to obscure US-only holidays

Bernadette Hyland: Next meeting in 3 weeks due to obscure US-only holidays

16:08:36 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye

Bart van Leeuwen: bye

16:08:40 <Zakim> -DanG

Zakim IRC Bot: -DanG

16:08:41 <Zakim> -Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory

16:08:41 <rreck> bye

Ronald Reck: bye

16:08:42 <Yigal> Thanks Bernadette for leading us!

Yigal Arens: Thanks Bernadette for leading us!

16:08:43 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen

16:08:44 <Zakim> -BernHyland

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernHyland

16:08:45 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

16:08:45 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

16:08:45 <Zakim> -PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2

16:08:48 <Zakim> -LyleBurgoon

Zakim IRC Bot: -LyleBurgoon

16:08:51 <Zakim> -Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal

16:09:11 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks Bernadette

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks Bernadette

16:09:34 <gatemezi> thanks all !! bye

Ghislain Atemezing: thanks all !! bye

16:09:35 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman

16:09:45 <BernHyland> good bye all.

Bernadette Hyland: good bye all.

16:10:03 <Zakim> -rreck

Zakim IRC Bot: -rreck

16:10:08 <Zakim> -??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P8

16:10:26 <BernHyland> @PhilA2, you have the end of meeting stuff well in hand, right?

Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, you have the end of meeting stuff well in hand, right?



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