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15:59:43 <LeonieW> Meeting: WAI HTML-A11y Bug Triage weekly meeting
15:59:51 <LeonieW> Chair: Léonie Watson
16:00:05 <LeonieW> agenda: this
16:00:20 <LeonieW> agenda+ Identify Scribe
16:00:26 <LeonieW> agenda+ New bugs review
16:00:30 <LeonieW> agenda+ Actions review
16:00:35 <LeonieW> agenda+ Needs more info bugs
16:00:39 <LeonieW> agenda+ Won't fix bugs
16:00:43 <LeonieW> agenda+ Fixed bugs
16:00:47 <LeonieW> agenda+ be done
16:00:53 <LeonieW> Zakim, save agenda
16:00:59 <Zakim> ok, LeonieW, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2011/12/20-a11y-bugs-agenda.rdf
16:02:00 <MichaelC> zakim, this is 2119
16:02:00 <Zakim> ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM
16:02:12 <MichaelC> zakim, IPcaller is Léonie_Watson
16:02:12 <Zakim> +Léonie_Watson; got it
16:02:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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16:02:41 <MichaelC> zakim, Ipcaller is Everett_Zufelt
16:02:41 <Zakim> +Everett_Zufelt; got it
16:03:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:04:01 <LeonieW> zakim, next item
16:04:01 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:04:19 <MichaelC> regrets: Joshue_O_Connor, Marco_Ranon
16:04:24 <MichaelC> zakim, IPcaller is Hans_Hillen
16:04:24 <Zakim> +Hans_Hillen; got it
16:04:27 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
16:04:29 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:04:30 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, MichaelC
16:04:37 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
16:04:38 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
16:04:38 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:04:39 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:04:40 <Zakim> 2. New bugs review [from LeonieW]
16:04:41 <Zakim> agendum 2. "New bugs review" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:04:59 <MichaelC> ez: nothing of note
16:05:34 <MichaelC> a couple new drag and drop bugs from work with John Foliot on that topic
16:05:54 <MichaelC> some were closed (properly), have added info to some others, and opened a couple
16:06:46 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:06:49 <MichaelC> <provides details>
16:07:03 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
16:07:23 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:07:23 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Actions review" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:07:48 <MichaelC> lw: actions from last week's meeting, appear to have been done
16:08:01 <MichaelC> hh: everett and I sent suggested high priority items
16:08:46 <MichaelC> mc: had difficulty picking particular high priority bugs
16:08:58 <MichaelC> were related to our big topics, no single representative bug
16:09:14 <MichaelC> lw: got clarification from task force that bug triage sub-team can move things more
16:09:31 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:09:54 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:09:54 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Needs more info bugs" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:10:10 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
16:11:37 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=NEEDSINFO
16:12:30 <MichaelC> mc: looks like some people have provided info, but new ones have entered this state
16:14:10 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10249
16:14:12 <MichaelC> assign to Rich
16:15:38 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13570
16:16:55 <MichaelC> assign to Cynthia (just needs a quick response to comment 7)
16:18:24 <MichaelC> lw: do all these need clearing by 31 Dec?
16:18:36 <MichaelC> mc: think the deadline is on Ian
16:18:43 <MichaelC> but we have deadline to escalate 2 weeks later
16:19:00 <MichaelC> if we haven't provided requested info, the request to escalate might be weaker
16:19:09 <MichaelC> so we really should clear these
16:19:23 <MichaelC> lw: so we need to get in touch with everyone with bugs assigned to them
16:19:49 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:19:49 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Won't fix bugs" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:20:00 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML WG&keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=WONTFIX
16:20:18 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=WONTFIX
16:20:52 <MichaelC> s|https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML WG&keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=WONTFIX||
16:23:22 <MichaelC> hh: also had difficulty picking highest priority
16:23:43 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10774
16:24:23 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:24:55 <Zakim> +??P1
16:24:58 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P1 is Michael_Cooper
16:24:58 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
16:26:31 <MichaelC> discussed in last week's TF call
16:26:39 <MichaelC> think Gregory and Ian agree
16:26:43 <MichaelC> mark as verified
16:26:51 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10853
16:28:11 <MichaelC> seems to be covered by HTML-ISSUE-30
16:30:12 <MichaelC> but unsure what to do with bugs that have been escalated to issues
16:30:56 <MichaelC> doesn't seem appropriate to mark verified wontfix, but no other appropriate status
16:31:07 <MichaelC> leaving them dangling open difficult to manage
16:31:13 <MichaelC> lw: will ask chairs what to do with these
16:31:26 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11240
16:31:32 <MichaelC> hh: similar to previous
16:34:09 <MichaelC> mc: had difficulty with the list, there weren't bugs that I thought we would easily accept not fixing, nor ones that we should push fixing above all others
16:34:28 <MichaelC> ez: also reviewed bugs, similar to above in that they were related to open issues
16:35:04 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14419
16:35:09 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727
16:35:31 <MichaelC> also couldn't pull out single highest priorities
16:35:40 <MichaelC> lw: so looks like nothing much we can do with this list
16:35:41 <MichaelC> right now
16:37:03 <MichaelC> maybe we could assign a few to people?
16:37:09 <MichaelC> mc: unsure of value of that
16:37:19 <MichaelC> filer will have been notified of wontfix state
16:37:28 <MichaelC> assigning would be just to get someone to push back on wontfix state
16:37:37 <Zakim> -Léonie_Watson
16:37:37 <MichaelC> yet we are indecisive about how to pursue that
16:37:43 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
16:37:43 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Fixed bugs" taken up [from LeonieW]
16:38:02 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:38:16 <MichaelC> zakim, Ipcaller is Léonie_Watson
16:38:16 <Zakim> +Léonie_Watson; got it
16:38:30 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=FIXED
16:39:34 <MichaelC> mc: propose these need review to see if fix ok
16:39:40 <MichaelC> mark as verified if so, or reopened if not
16:39:50 <MichaelC> lw: perhaps should get in touch with original filers
16:42:12 <MichaelC> mc: can select "change columns" and add "reporter" to the set of selected columns to get quick access to filer
16:43:53 <MichaelC> note some filed by "contributor@whatwg.org", can't find original reporter
16:43:58 <MichaelC> so we should verify those ourselves
16:44:04 <MichaelC> the remainder we should ask the reporters to verify
16:46:00 <MichaelC> lw: deadline for us to reopen bugs?
16:46:21 <MichaelC> mc: looks like 31 December is realistic deadline, after that editor has no responsibility
16:46:33 <MichaelC> and from 14 January the formal process is focused on Tracker, not on Bugzilla
16:47:09 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7539
16:50:26 <MichaelC> lots of background, difficult to verify
16:50:46 <MichaelC> a) whether it's what it was supposed to be, b) whether we like what it was supposed to be
16:51:42 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9113
16:53:11 <MichaelC> seems ok, mark as verified
16:53:13 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9623
16:55:19 <MichaelC> seems ok, mark as verified
16:55:21 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12662
16:58:12 <MichaelC> seems ok, mark as verified (not sure why this was a11ytf)
16:58:24 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13142
16:58:53 <MichaelC> seems ok, mark as verified (not sure why this was a11ytf)
16:59:08 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13291
17:00:17 <Zakim> -Everett_Zufelt
17:00:38 <MichaelC> assign to Cynthia to review
17:01:24 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13329
17:02:24 <MichaelC> seems ok, mark as verified
17:02:30 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13448
17:03:29 <MichaelC> seems ok, mark as verified
17:03:36 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13462
17:07:42 <Zakim> -Hans_Hillen
17:08:09 <MichaelC> remove a11ytf keyword, somebody else will need to triage
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17:09:58 <MichaelC> chair: Léonie_Watson
17:10:13 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -final
17:10:47 <Zakim> -Léonie_Watson
17:10:49 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
17:10:50 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM has ended
17:10:52 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Léonie_Watson, Everett_Zufelt, Hans_Hillen
17:11:03 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
17:11:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/20-a11y-bugs-minutes.html MichaelC
17:19:59 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
17:19:59 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
17:20:00 <MichaelC> zakim, bye