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14:46:52 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
14:46:53 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
14:46:53 <trackbot> Date: 14 December 2011
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14:47:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:47:49 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
14:47:50 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
14:47:50 <trackbot> Date: 14 December 2011
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14:48:10 <fjh_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Dec/0036.html
14:49:03 <fjh_> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
14:49:12 <fjh_> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
14:49:48 <fjh_> Regrets+ Niklas_Widell 
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14:59:27 <Zakim> +glenn
14:59:40 <Zakim> +??P18
14:59:43 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P18 is me
14:59:43 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
14:59:49 <Zakim> +Deepanshu_Gautam
14:59:51 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
15:00:10 <Zakim> +Josh_Soref
15:00:15 <Zakim> +richt
15:00:20 <Zakim> +Nigil
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15:00:24 <richt> Present+ Rich_Tibbett
15:00:30 <ernesto_jimenez> Present+ Ernesto_Jimenez
15:00:31 <fjh> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
15:00:31 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
15:00:33 <Clarke> +Clarke_Stevens
15:00:34 <glenn> Present+ Glenn_Adams
15:00:38 <AnssiK> zakim, who is on the call?
15:00:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, Nigil, fjh
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15:00:49 <Clarke> Present+ Clarke_Stevens
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15:01:02 <Cathy> Present+ Cathy_Chan
15:01:09 <Deepanshu> Present+ Deepanshu_Gautam
15:01:37 <Zakim> +Dsr
15:01:46 <fjh> zakim. who is here?
15:01:48 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aaaa
15:02:00 <dsr> Present+ Dsr
15:02:01 <Zakim> -Nigil
15:02:02 <Zakim> +??P3
15:02:06 <fjh> s/zakim. who is here?//
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15:02:08 <Claes> Zakim, aaaa is Claes
15:02:08 <Zakim> +Claes; got it
15:02:10 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:02:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, ??P3
15:02:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see timeless, Cathy, Deepanshu, Claes, Clarke, dsr, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, ernesto_jimenez, AnssiK, darobin, richt, lgombos, dom, Josh_Soref, slightlyoff, ilkka,
15:02:20 <Clarke> ??P3 is me
15:02:20 <Zakim> ... trackbot, rektide, mounir
15:02:21 <Claes> Present+ Claes_Nilsson
15:02:30 <Clarke> zakim, ??P3 is me
15:02:32 <Zakim> +Pieter
15:02:39 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
15:03:04 <Zakim> +Cathy
15:03:08 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:03:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, Clarke, Pieter, Cathy
15:03:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see timeless, Cathy, Deepanshu, Claes, Clarke, dsr, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, ernesto_jimenez, AnssiK, darobin, richt, lgombos, dom, Josh_Soref, slightlyoff, ilkka,
15:03:16 <Zakim> ... trackbot, rektide, mounir
15:03:16 <dom> Zakim, ??P3 is Clarke
15:03:20 <Zakim> I already had ??P3 as Clarke, dom
15:03:28 <Zakim> +??P31
15:03:31 <dom> Zakim, ??P31 is me
15:03:32 <Zakim> +darobin
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15:03:34 <Zakim> +dom; got it
15:03:48 <Zakim> -darobin
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15:04:37 <Zakim> +darobin
15:05:30 <Josh_Soref> Scribe: Josh_Soref 
15:05:43 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
15:06:06 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: Cancel Dec 28 Call
15:06:13 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:06:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
15:06:22 <fjh> HTML Speech Incubator Group completes, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Dec/0035.html
15:06:28 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Minutes Approval
15:06:36 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/att-0263/minutes-2011-11-30.html
15:06:55 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: Minutes of Dec 7 Meeting are Approved
15:07:04 <Josh_Soref> Topic: March F2F
15:07:12 <fjh> Date and location confirmation
15:07:13 <fjh> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Dec/0000.html (Dom)
15:07:13 <fjh> Week of 19 March (Tue - Thur ?)
15:07:13 <fjh> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/mar2012-f2f/results
15:07:13 <fjh> Shenzhen (adjacent to Hongkong), Beijing offers...
15:07:28 <Josh_Soref> fjh: We need to nail this down
15:07:37 <Josh_Soref> ... people need to get approvals and visas
15:07:56 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: I don't think it would be troublesome to get to Shenzhen 
15:08:04 <Josh_Soref> ... you can take a Ferry from Hong Kong there
15:08:15 <Josh_Soref> fjh: so basically you fly in to HK and then Ferry
15:08:17 <dom> q+ to ask about who would be hosting in BEijing
15:08:21 <Josh_Soref> fjh: Can we decide on the dates first?
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15:08:36 <fjh> ack dom
15:08:36 <Zakim> dom, you wanted to ask about who would be hosting in BEijing
15:08:41 <Zakim> + +1.425.214.aabb - is perhaps SungOk_You?
15:08:49 <Josh_Soref> ... Mar 20-22
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15:08:55 <darobin> [and we have an offer from LG in Seoul as well, right?]
15:09:09 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: F2F will be March 20-22
15:09:34 <Zakim> +Jon_Gunderson
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15:10:25 <Josh_Soref> dom: did we have an offer for Beijing?
15:10:29 <Josh_Soref> fjh: it came privately, not on the list
15:10:30 <darobin> I'm Jing Wu from Chinaunicom.
15:10:32 <darobin> Chinaunicom is very glad to host the F2F meeting in March next year in Beijing.
15:10:47 <R_Berkoff> Present+ Russell_Berkoff(Samsung)
15:10:50 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:10:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, Clarke, Pieter, Cathy, dom, darobin, SungOk_You?, Jon_Gunderson
15:10:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see R_Berkoff, Dzung_Tran, bryan, Cathy, Deepanshu, Claes, Clarke, dsr, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, ernesto_jimenez, AnssiK, darobin, richt, lgombos, dom, Josh_Soref,
15:10:56 <Zakim> ... slightlyoff, ilkka, trackbot, rektide, mounir
15:11:19 <bryan> present+ Bryan_Sullivan
15:11:24 <Josh_Soref> dom: i think knowing the Week and the Country
15:11:35 <Josh_Soref> ... should be sufficient for Josh_Soref's needs
15:12:38 <Josh_Soref> fjh: it seems that we'd want to confirm that the host is able to provide Internet and similar
15:12:57 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: because this would be our first time hosting
15:13:10 <Josh_Soref> ... we'd want to know how many attendees (roughly)
15:13:15 <Josh_Soref> ... we would provide internet of course
15:13:26 <Josh_Soref> ... but for other logistics, we need that estimate
15:13:42 <Josh_Soref> fjh: dom, do we need a questionnaire for participant count?
15:13:51 <Josh_Soref> darobin: Deepanshu, when do you need the count by?
15:13:57 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: we'd need it by Mid Jan
15:14:07 <dom> (DAP meetings have been in the range of 15 to 40 participants)
15:14:08 <Josh_Soref> darobin: once we decide, we can put up a registration poll
15:14:27 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: at latest by the end of January
15:14:40 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i'd favor deciding now
15:14:42 <Josh_Soref> darobin: me too
15:14:50 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i think we should decide now, and on Shenzhen 
15:14:51 <darobin> +1 to Shenzhen
15:14:56 <Josh_Soref> ... although i don't know anything about it
15:14:58 <Clarke> +1
15:15:10 <Cathy> +1 to Shenzhen
15:15:25 <Josh_Soref> dsr: I agree, do we have confirmation about hosts in Shenzhen ?
15:15:28 <Josh_Soref> darobin: yes
15:15:34 <Josh_Soref> dsr: then i'd favor deciding now
15:15:41 <Josh_Soref> fjh: Objections?
15:15:44 <Josh_Soref> [ None ]
15:15:50 <Josh_Soref> Resolution: March F2F will be in Shenzhen 
15:16:08 <Josh_Soref> ... Huawei
15:16:24 <Deepanshu> Huawei Technologies.
15:16:24 <Josh_Soref> s/... Huawei/[ At Huawei ]/
15:16:35 <Deepanshu> We are headquatered in Shenzhen
15:16:43 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Battery
15:16:54 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to reply to China Unicom and LG about hosting
15:16:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-495 - Reply to China Unicom and LG about hosting [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-12-21].
15:17:04 <Josh_Soref> fjh: AnssiK, it looks like there's discussion on both lists
15:17:14 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: seems to be publication, a couple of LC comments
15:17:17 <AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2009/dap/system-info/battery-status.html
15:17:20 <Josh_Soref> ... i've been updating the ED based on them
15:17:21 <fjh> s/Resolution: March/RESOLUTION: March/
15:17:34 <Josh_Soref> ... you can review the commit logs
15:17:48 <Josh_Soref> ... I don't think there's much need to review the changes on the call
15:17:57 <Josh_Soref> ... we got good feedback and have resolved a couple of bugs
15:18:09 <fjh> Last Call period ends 20 December 2011
15:18:11 <Josh_Soref> ... I think we're ready to move forward
15:18:27 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: i'll be away for most of Jan
15:18:36 <Josh_Soref> ... if you want me to do something during Jan, that may be challenging
15:18:51 <Josh_Soref> ... Josh_Soref could edit the spec
15:19:09 <Josh_Soref> ... if you need to do edits in my absence, i trust you
15:19:15 <Josh_Soref> ... any changes at this point would be typos
15:19:32 <Josh_Soref> ... you (collectively) are free to make whatever (minor) changes it takes
15:19:37 <fjh> need to update last call log
15:19:37 <Josh_Soref> ... please work with the implementers
15:19:39 <darobin> +1 to shipping stuff
15:19:44 <Josh_Soref> ... so we can ship something from this WG
15:19:51 <Josh_Soref> fjh: will you be at the F2F?
15:19:54 <Josh_Soref> AnssiK: most likely not
15:20:04 <Josh_Soref> fjh: thanks. we'll play it by ear.
15:20:09 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Media Capture
15:20:14 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, who is on the call?
15:20:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, fjh, Dsr, Claes, Clarke, Pieter, Cathy, dom, darobin, SungOk_You?, Jon_Gunderson
15:20:19 <fjh> Media Stream Capture Scenarios , ACTION-461 (Travis)
15:20:20 <fjh> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/tip/media-stream-capture/scenarios.html
15:20:32 <richt> q+ for media capture
15:20:40 <darobin> q?
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15:20:42 <fjh> ack richt
15:20:42 <Zakim> richt, you wanted to discuss media capture
15:20:47 <Josh_Soref> darobin: preferably send feedback to the TF
15:20:56 <Josh_Soref> richt: I'm still a bit unhappy with the split of that work
15:21:07 <Josh_Soref> ... i'd like to see more of the stuff come from WebRTC
15:21:12 <Josh_Soref> ... that might be due to the charter
15:21:17 <Josh_Soref> darobin: I think for the split stuff
15:21:24 <Josh_Soref> ... it's about convincing the WebRTC people
15:21:34 <Josh_Soref> ... if we come up w/ a unified stream proposal that they like
15:21:43 <Josh_Soref> richt: it's about coming up with a toolchain
15:21:50 <Josh_Soref> ... i started a discussion, but i didn't get any responses
15:22:02 <dom> q+ to suggest making a concrete Web IDL proposal
15:22:02 <Josh_Soref> darobin: i think it would be a good idea to chat w/ travis to get an aligned proposal
15:22:14 <Josh_Soref> darobin: sometimes people are silent on the list because they agree
15:22:25 <fjh> ack deepanshu_Gautam
15:22:30 <Josh_Soref> richt: i'll talk with travis, i think we're aligned
15:23:05 <richt> s/i'd like to see more of the stuff come from WebRTC/I'd like to see MediaStream come from WebRTC also/
15:23:10 <dom> [I think there will be also needs to get stuff done for visas]
15:23:17 <darobin> ack dom
15:23:17 <Zakim> dom, you wanted to suggest making a concrete Web IDL proposal
15:23:17 <fjh> q?
15:23:27 <Josh_Soref> i/Topic: Battery/fjh: Deepanshu if you could send out about logistics, that would be good/
15:23:30 <darobin> +1 on concrete
15:23:50 <Josh_Soref> i/Topic: Battery/Deepanshu: I can send out about Travel+Ferry but not Hotel as we haven't decided yet/
15:24:04 <Josh_Soref> dom: XXX about WebIDL
15:24:11 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:24:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
15:24:39 <Josh_Soref> s/+Clarke_Stevens/Present+ Clarke_Stevens/
15:25:07 <Josh_Soref> dom: richt will you be making a concrete proposal?
15:25:13 <Josh_Soref> richt: it's not that difficult
15:25:26 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm not editing the document, which makes things a bit of a pain
15:25:37 <Josh_Soref> darobin: the document is on github, so you can fork and make pull requests
15:25:47 <fjh> Task force highlights
15:25:48 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-capture/2011Dec/
15:26:06 <dom> s/XXX about WebIDL/I think having a concrete Web IDL proposal on how the split would work would help moving forward
15:26:31 <Josh_Soref> darobin: i don't think there's a lot we can talk about here as it's supposed to be done in the TF
15:26:50 <Josh_Soref> fjh: right, but i'm not sure how to handle TFs yet
15:26:53 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Web Intents
15:27:01 <fjh> Web and TV IG has just published his first group note document:  
15:27:01 <fjh> "Requirements for Home Networking Scenarios".
15:27:02 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/NOTE-hnreq-20111201/
15:27:02 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Dec/0034.html
15:27:02 <fjh> 5b) Task force highlights
15:27:02 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-intents/2011Dec/
15:27:24 <Josh_Soref> s/??P3 is me//
15:27:38 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, SungOK_You is really bryan 
15:27:38 <Zakim> +bryan; got it
15:28:02 <Josh_Soref> fjh: I think we need to do more work on the list for intents
15:28:08 <Josh_Soref> ... i don't think there's anything to discuss on it
15:28:17 <Josh_Soref> darobin: for Intents, I think we have to figure out IPR stuff
15:28:20 <Josh_Soref> ... and get a draft out
15:28:35 <Josh_Soref> fjh: who's doing this?
15:28:43 <Josh_Soref> darobin: we just talked about this w/ dsr before the call
15:28:47 <Claes> q+
15:28:54 <Deepanshu> How do i put myself on the que?
15:29:01 <Josh_Soref> q+ Deepanshu 
15:29:09 <Josh_Soref> Claes: a question about the next F2F and Intents
15:29:12 <fjh> ack Claes
15:29:27 <Josh_Soref> ... are there any plans to have any joint Intents F2F in concert w/ the DAP F2F?
15:29:28 <Deepanshu> ans how to remove myself "q-"
15:29:45 <fjh> s/ans how.*//
15:29:51 <Deepanshu> thx
15:29:51 <Josh_Soref> s|s/ans how.*//|
15:29:55 <Josh_Soref> s/thx//
15:30:02 <Josh_Soref> s/ans how to remove myself "q-"//
15:30:29 <Josh_Soref> darobin: the question of discussing Intents at the F2F depends on whether the Intents people attend the F2F
15:30:41 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i think it's important to talk about it, so we should have an Agenda item
15:30:45 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to figure out if the Intents TF wants to meet as part of DAP F2F
15:30:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-496 - Figure out if the Intents TF wants to meet as part of DAP F2F [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-12-21].
15:30:51 <bryan> I would prefer that all task forces are represented at the F2F and there is specific dicussion.
15:30:54 <Josh_Soref> Claes: darobin / fjh, could you discuss this with the TF leader?
15:31:06 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i think that's important, thank you Claes 
15:31:11 <Josh_Soref> darobin: i will
15:31:16 <bryan> Otherwise there is less reason to travel.
15:31:25 <Josh_Soref> fjh: in general, we should figure out our Agenda for the F2F fairly soon
15:31:41 <Josh_Soref> Topic: AoB
15:31:46 <Josh_Soref> fjh: I'd suggest not to have a call next week
15:31:51 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: No call next week
15:32:18 <Josh_Soref> fjh: regarding participation, i think we need a questionaire
15:32:24 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: i think most attendees will need visas
15:32:30 <Josh_Soref> ... so most will need invitation letters
15:32:33 <Josh_Soref> darobin: yes
15:32:45 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: i'm not sure about the internal process for getting invitation letters
15:33:16 <Josh_Soref> ... it may be possible due to the internal details, that we'll need to know who needs invitation letters
15:33:28 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i think the last time i was in china, we just needed a generic letter
15:33:39 <fjh> Deepanshu, I need an invitation as soon as possible
15:33:42 <Josh_Soref> dsr: we may have a generic letter with a block list of names
15:34:07 <fjh> s/Deepanshu, I need an invitation as soon as possible//
15:34:20 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: i'll get back on the list what information we need for each person
15:34:29 <Josh_Soref> ... we can provide any letters people ask for
15:34:49 <Josh_Soref> fjh: can we do a swag for number of attendees?
15:35:16 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: didn't the WBS give you numbers?
15:35:21 <Josh_Soref> fjh: that would do the trick
15:35:48 <Josh_Soref> dom: regarding participants, the ballpark is 15..40
15:36:03 <Josh_Soref> ... the last time we met in Asia (Seoul), we had the lowest, which was 15
15:36:10 <Josh_Soref> ... but there were bad travel conditions then
15:36:25 <darobin> [there were 18 responders for the week of 19th, but I would expect more]
15:36:26 <Josh_Soref> darobin: specifically Fukushima
15:36:46 <darobin> [I have emailed James to coordinate on Intents participation]
15:36:53 <Josh_Soref> ... which resulted in cancellations 
15:37:03 <Josh_Soref> fjh: Deepanshu, where does this leave you with planning?
15:37:10 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: i'm just wondering about invitation letters?
15:37:25 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm not sure if the time would be enough
15:37:32 <Josh_Soref> ... if we get the information by the end of january
15:37:41 <Josh_Soref> fjh: that might make it hard to turn around the passports
15:37:58 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: we should be providing invitation letters ASAP
15:38:12 <Josh_Soref> q+ to ask if we can invite all WG members
15:38:31 <Josh_Soref> dom: i'd suggest Deepanshu get back to us with what he needs, time, etc.
15:38:42 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: i'll get back on the list with that
15:38:57 <Josh_Soref> dom: once we have that, we can adjust the deadline for registration
15:39:24 <Josh_Soref> ... we can ask people to send that information as soon as they know that they are coming
15:39:49 <Josh_Soref> ... people who don't know if they are coming should go through the process
15:39:58 <Deepanshu> it will not be possibel for us to host in Hongkong
15:40:09 <Josh_Soref> s/possibel/possible/
15:40:38 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i'm not sure about how transiting through Hong Kong works
15:40:51 <Josh_Soref> darobin: Hong Kong has a visa exception for Transit or under 3 months
15:40:56 <Josh_Soref> q?
15:41:04 <Josh_Soref> ack me
15:41:04 <Zakim> Josh_Soref, you wanted to ask if we can invite all WG members
15:41:06 <darobin> merry christmas! happy new year!
15:41:36 <fjh> +1 robin
15:41:44 <Josh_Soref> Deepanshu: we need passport numbers, expiry date, date of issue, date of birth, place of birth, place of issue
15:41:59 <Josh_Soref> ... i'm not sure about the specifics, but it seems to have specific things
15:42:18 <Josh_Soref> ... i'll get back on the list as soon as i know
15:42:22 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Closing
15:42:27 <Josh_Soref> fjh: have a happy new year
15:42:28 <Zakim> -dom
15:42:29 <Zakim> -Clarke
15:42:30 <Zakim> -Claes
15:42:30 <Josh_Soref> [ bye ]
15:42:31 <Zakim> -richt
15:42:31 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:42:32 <Zakim> -bryan
15:42:32 <Zakim> -Pieter
15:42:33 <Zakim> -Deepanshu_Gautam
15:42:33 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:42:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
15:42:35 <Zakim> -darobin
15:42:37 <Zakim> -Jon_Gunderson
15:42:39 <Zakim> -fjh
15:42:42 <Zakim> -Dsr
15:42:45 <Zakim> -Cathy
15:42:53 <Zakim> -glenn
15:43:02 <glenn> glenn has left #dap
15:43:16 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, end call
15:43:16 <Zakim> I don't understand 'end call', Josh_Soref
15:43:22 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, help
15:43:22 <Zakim> Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
15:43:25 <Zakim> Some of the commands I know are:
15:43:27 <Zakim>  xxx is yyy       - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
15:43:29 <Zakim>                     if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
15:43:32 <Zakim>  xxx may be yyy   - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
15:43:35 <Zakim>  I am xxx         - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
15:43:37 <Zakim>  xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
15:43:40 <Zakim>  xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
15:43:42 <Zakim>  who's here?      - lists the participants on the phone
15:43:44 <Zakim>  who's muted?     - lists the participants who are muted
15:43:46 <Zakim>  mute xxx         - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
15:43:48 <Zakim>  unmute xxx       - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
15:43:51 <Zakim>  is xxx here?     - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
15:43:54 <Zakim>  list conferences - reports the active conferences
15:43:56 <Zakim>  this is xxx      - associates this channel with conference xxx
15:43:58 <Zakim>  excuse us        - disconnects from the irc channel
15:44:00 <Zakim> I last learned something new on $Date: 2010/03/15 18:49:04 $
15:44:09 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, excuse us
15:44:09 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were glenn, AnssiK, Deepanshu_Gautam, Josh_Soref, richt, Nigil, fjh, Dsr, +46.1.08.01.aaaa, Claes, Pieter, Clarke, Cathy, darobin, dom,
15:44:09 <Zakim> Zakim has left #dap
15:44:13 <Zakim> ... +1.425.214.aabb, Jon_Gunderson, bryan
15:44:23 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, bye
15:44:23 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-actions.rdf :
15:44:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Robin to reply to China Unicom and LG about hosting [1]
15:44:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-irc#T15-16-54
15:44:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Robin to figure out if the Intents TF wants to meet as part of DAP F2F [2]
15:44:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-dap-irc#T15-30-45