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14:31:23 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:31:23 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 29 minutes
14:31:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
14:31:24 <trackbot> Date: 30 November 2011
14:31:44 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0255.html
14:32:21 <fjh> Chair: Frederick_Hirsch
14:32:24 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
14:33:11 <fjh> Regrets+ Robin_Berjon, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
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14:54:47 <Deep> Present+ Deepanshu_Gautam
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14:57:38 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
14:57:45 <Zakim> +??P1
14:58:02 <Clarke> zakim, ??P1 is me
14:58:02 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
14:58:22 <Clarke> Present+ Clarke_Stevens
14:58:45 <Zakim> +Deepanshu_Gautam
14:58:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:58:55 <fjh> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
14:58:55 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
14:59:15 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:59:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Clarke, Deepanshu_Gautam, fjh
14:59:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see Clarke, Wonsuk, Deep, dsr, kihong, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, SungOk_You, darobin, slightlyoff, Josh_Soref, lgombos, ilkka, rektide, trackbot, mounir, dom
14:59:18 <Zakim> +Josh_Soref
14:59:27 <kihong> Present+ Kihong_Kwon
14:59:31 <fjh> Present+ Deepanshu_Gautam
14:59:43 <Zakim> +Dsr
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15:01:17 <Josh_Soref> Present+ Josh_Soref
15:01:18 <Zakim> +nwidell
15:01:39 <fjh> ScribeNick: Clarke
15:01:41 <Zakim> + +1.425.214.aaaa
15:01:58 <SungOk_You> Present+ SungOk_You
15:02:00 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
15:02:03 <bryan> bryan has joined #dap
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15:02:16 <fjh> Please complete questionnaire for dates of next F2F in March 2012: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Nov/0003.html (Dom)
15:02:16 <fjh> FPWD of Vibration API published, http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-vibration-20111117/
15:02:17 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
15:02:17 <fjh> Last Call of Battery API published, review comments requested before 20 December:  http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-battery-status-20111129/
15:02:17 <fjh> ReSpec patch for IE9, thanks to Travis, 
15:02:17 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0235.html
15:02:19 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Cancel teleconference on 7 December 2011
15:02:20 <nwidell> Present+ Niklas_Widell
15:02:35 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, aaaa may be SungOk_You
15:02:36 <Zakim> +SungOk_You?; got it
15:02:44 <Zakim> +??P11
15:02:45 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:02:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see Clarke, Deepanshu_Gautam, fjh, Josh_Soref, Dsr, nwidell, SungOk_You?, ??P11
15:02:46 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P11 is me
15:02:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see nwidell, AnssiK, bryan, spoussa, Clarke, Deep, dsr, kihong, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, SungOk_You, darobin, slightlyoff, Josh_Soref, lgombos, ilkka, rektide, trackbot,
15:02:50 <Zakim> ... mounir, dom
15:02:50 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
15:02:52 <Zakim> +spoussa
15:03:03 <fjh> Present+  SungOk_You
15:03:15 <spoussa> Present+ Sakari_Poussa
15:03:20 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
15:03:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Clarke, Deepanshu_Gautam, fjh, Josh_Soref, Dsr, nwidell, SungOk_You?, AnssiK, spoussa
15:03:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see nwidell, AnssiK, bryan, spoussa, Clarke, Deep, dsr, kihong, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, SungOk_You, darobin, slightlyoff, Josh_Soref, lgombos, ilkka, rektide, trackbot,
15:03:25 <Zakim> ... mounir, dom
15:03:29 <fjh> possible agenda addition, sensors
15:03:29 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:04:18 <dsr> Present+ Dave_Raggett
15:04:19 <SungOk_You> Zakim +[IPcaller] is me 
15:04:42 <bryan> present+ Bryan_Sullivan
15:05:08 <Clarke> Cancelling next week's call
15:05:17 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Cancel teleconference on 7 December 2011
15:05:33 <Clarke> resolution: cancel next week's call on De. 7
15:05:51 <Clarke> Resolution: cancel call on December 7
15:05:53 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:05:57 <fjh> s/resolution: cancel.*De. 7/
15:05:59 <Josh_Soref> Rrsagent, draft minutes
15:05:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/30-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
15:06:14 <Clarke> Topic: minutes approval
15:06:16 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/att-0230/minutes-2011-11-23.html
15:06:17 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 23 November 2011 are approved.
15:06:27 <Clarke> RESOLUTION: Minutes from 23 November 2011 are approved.
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15:06:57 <Clarke> Topic: Media Capture Task Force
15:06:59 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0234.html
15:06:59 <fjh> subscribe to the list to participate in this work
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15:07:20 <Clarke> Topic: Battery API
15:07:24 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0245.html (Anne)
15:07:24 <fjh> Entered as LC-2574, 2575
15:07:24 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0254.html
15:07:30 <Zakim> +wonsuk
15:07:53 <AnssiK> q+
15:07:59 <fjh> ack AnssiK
15:08:12 <Clarke> Wonsuk: Think privacy issue is handled
15:08:20 <fjh> s/Wonsuk/Anssi/
15:08:27 <Clarke> ...can ask for guidance
15:08:30 <fjh> s/Anssi/AnssiK/
15:09:00 <Clarke> ...most substantial comment related to specifying events for DAP sources
15:09:06 <Wonsuk> Present+ Wonsuk_Lee
15:09:18 <Josh_Soref> I favor queuing 
15:09:21 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0257.html
15:09:23 <Clarke> ...comments against using queues and dispatching single events
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15:10:08 <Clarke> ... I think we can resolve this easily
15:10:14 <Cathy> Present+ Cathy_Chan
15:10:21 <Clarke> ... I will make this happen soon
15:10:35 <Zakim> + +1.781.266.aabb
15:10:38 <Cathy> zakim, aabb is me
15:10:38 <Zakim> +Cathy; got it
15:10:47 <Clarke> fjh: We now resolve all the last call comments
15:11:08 <Clarke> ... seek approval of resolutions to comments
15:11:09 <AnssiK> s/DAP/task/
15:11:33 <AnssiK> s/source/queue/
15:11:34 <Clarke> ... think we can go straight to CR if comments are addressed
15:11:48 <Clarke> ... no rush to publish right now
15:11:53 <AnssiK> s/specifying events for//
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15:12:31 <Clarke> ... may be worthwhile for AnssiK to respond to comments
15:12:56 <Clarke> AnnsiK: I'm happy to discuss this on the mailing list
15:13:04 <Clarke> ... then I can do edits
15:13:26 <Clarke> ... If you have patches, please send them to the mailing list
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15:13:48 <Clarke> fjh: minor comment about editing
15:14:13 <Clarke> AnssiK: Josh had some comment on queing
15:14:21 <fjh> minor comment link,  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0258.html
15:14:41 <fjh> s/queing/queuing/
15:14:49 <Clarke> Josh: I would favor model of HTML5 (car noise)
15:14:50 <Zakim> -SungOk_You?
15:15:18 <Clarke> fjh: Please start discussion on list and make sure everybody agrees:
15:15:25 <Clarke> Topic: Proximity sensor API
15:15:27 <fjh> Proposal, ACTION-467,
15:15:28 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0236.html
15:15:43 <Clarke> fjh: Please review this and discuss on the list
15:15:46 <Zakim> + +1.425.214.aacc - is perhaps SungOk_You?
15:15:59 <AnssiK> zakim, who is on the call?
15:15:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Clarke, Deepanshu_Gautam, fjh, Josh_Soref, Dsr, nwidell, AnssiK, spoussa, [IPcaller], [Microsoft], wonsuk, Cathy, SungOk_You?
15:16:24 <Clarke> ... heads up to look at this and discuss on list
15:16:34 <Clarke> Topic: Ambient light topic
15:16:36 <fjh> Proposal, ACTION-467, 
15:16:36 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Nov/0238.html (Dom)
15:16:40 <SungOk_You> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me 
15:16:40 <Zakim> +SungOk_You; got it
15:16:54 <Clarke> fjh: some issues seem a little far out
15:17:17 <Clarke> ... unless people say otherwise we will move things forward
15:17:26 <fjh> q?
15:17:37 <Clarke> ... please respond on list if you have comments
15:17:53 <Clarke> Topic: Web Intents task force
15:17:57 <fjh> archive, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-intents/2011Nov/
15:17:57 <fjh> wiki, http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebIntents
15:18:30 <Clarke> ... tools are set up. Now we're beginning to get into discussions
15:18:39 <SungOk_You> Josh, I didn't drop the call. 
15:18:46 <Clarke> zakim, who was taking
15:18:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who was taking', Clarke
15:19:12 <Clarke> Topic: sensors
15:19:29 <Clarke> fjh: there have been some proposed edits - Wonsuk?
15:19:45 <Clarke> ... might be useful to capture where we are on the list
15:20:37 <fjh> some changes to the sensors draft have been discussed and roughly agreed on the list, at some point the draft should reflect these if it moves forward
15:20:58 <Clarke> ... correct me if that is not correct
15:21:06 <Clarke> Topic: administration
15:21:17 <Clarke> fjh: will have call in 2 weeks
15:21:32 <Clarke> ... if we can finish battery comments before holidays, that would be good
15:21:36 <Clarke> ... any other topics
15:21:56 <Clarke> ... media task force - first draft?
15:22:34 <Clarke> ... updated draft sent this morning? looking for link
15:22:45 <fjh> http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/getusermedia.html
15:22:59 <Clarke> ... look at link and get on list if you have interest
15:23:25 <fjh> s/Wonsuk/Josh_Soref/
15:23:43 <Clarke> ... any other business? implementations?
15:23:55 <Clarke> ... plenty of work for next 2 weeks
15:24:20 <fjh> Please review webintents before next meeting, getusermedia, join task forces, review mail list, review battery last call issues
15:24:58 <Clarke> Deep: question about next meeting
15:25:05 <Clarke> ... we can host meeting in China
15:25:16 <Clarke> ... wanted to make sure people know about that
15:25:31 <Clarke> fjh: 2 possible hosting venues
15:25:53 <Clarke> ... near 19th of March
15:26:26 <Clarke> ... respond to questionaire 
15:26:27 <fjh> Please complete questionnaire for dates of next F2F in March 2012: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Nov/0003.html
15:26:38 <Clarke> ... thanks for reminder
15:27:05 <Clarke> ... assuming hosting volunteers have approval and venue
15:27:07 <fjh> Topic: Adjourn
15:27:28 <Clarke> fjh: Josh will generate minutes
15:27:37 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:27:38 <Zakim> -SungOk_You
15:27:38 <Zakim> -SungOk_You?
15:27:39 <Zakim> -Deepanshu_Gautam
15:27:40 <Zakim> -Clarke
15:27:41 <Zakim> -nwidell
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15:27:41 <Zakim> -Cathy
15:27:43 <Zakim> -fjh
15:27:48 <Zakim> -spoussa
15:27:57 <Zakim> -Dsr
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15:30:04 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, bye
15:30:04 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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15:32:36 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:32:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/30-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
15:32:38 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, bye
15:32:59 <Josh_Soref> dsr: grr, /kick RRSAgent 
15:33:09 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, make minutes public
15:33:09 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', Josh_Soref.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:33:15 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:33:18 <Josh_Soref> RRSAgent, bye
15:33:18 <RRSAgent> I see no action items