17:03:18 RRSAgent has joined #aapi 17:03:18 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-aapi-irc 17:03:24 rrsagent, make logs public 17:03:31 rrsagent, make log world 17:03:41 Scribe: Andi_Snow-Weaver 17:03:52 ScribeNick: Andi 17:03:59 Meeting: AAPI 17:04:06 Chair: Andi_Snow-Weaver 17:08:22 +[Microsoft] 17:10:20 MichaelC has joined #aapi 17:10:21 cyns has joined #aapi 17:10:40 topic: bug 13258 17:10:41 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13258 17:11:08 AS: Cynthia just needs to review the Selection section for correctness and then pass on to David 17:11:16 CS: will do this today and ask Larry to look at it today 17:12:49 topic: issue 466 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/466 17:13:48 CS: what happens if you put role="main" on a table? 17:14:02 CS: should the role remove the table semantics the same way role="presentation" would do 17:14:14 CS: and should it remove the mapping to the AAPI? 17:14:24 CS: FF treats the table as presentation, IE and Safari don't 17:14:38 CS: UAIG says not mapped 17:14:50 CS: want us to clarify in the UAIG what the expected behavior is 17:15:33 CS: need to talk with David and James - start an e-mail thread 17:15:50 CS: seems weird to remove semantic when don't have anything to replace it with 17:16:03 CS: most APIs don't have anything to map "main" to 17:16:37 CS: not sure if this is all FF implementations or just the Linux implementation 17:19:00 AS: are there other roles where this might be an issue? 17:19:17 CS: think it's for all the landmark roles, but might be for any role that doesn't have a direct API mapping 17:20:50 AS: section on conflicts between WAI-ARIA and native markup semantics is consistent with what is in the spec 17:21:16 CS: browser implementers are interpreting it differently so we need to clarify it in the UAIG. 17:28:57 davidb has joined #aapi 17:29:15 topic ACTION-925 https://www.w3.org/2011/11/14-pf-minutes.html#item02 17:29:27 hi David. will you be calling in too? 17:29:37 could use your input on a new issue (466) 17:32:02 s/hi David. will you be calling in too?// 17:32:11 s/could use your input on a new issue (466)// 17:40:58 rrsagent, make minutes 17:40:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-aapi-minutes.html Andi 17:41:24 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 17:41:25 WAI_PFWG(AAPI)12:00PM has ended 17:41:26 Attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, [Microsoft] 17:41:50 zakim, [Microsoft] has Cynthia_Shelly 17:41:50 sorry, Andi, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft]' 17:42:00 zakim, Microsoft has Cynthia_Shelly 17:42:00 sorry, Andi, I do not recognize a party named 'Microsoft' 17:42:33 present: Andi_Snow_Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly 17:42:38 rrsagent, make minutes 17:42:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-aapi-minutes.html Andi 17:42:58 regrets: David_Bolter 17:43:04 rrsagent, make minutes 17:43:04 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-aapi-minutes.html Andi 17:43:54 s/topic ACTION-925/topic: ACTION-925/ 17:43:59 rrsagent, make minutes 17:43:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-aapi-minutes.html Andi 17:44:58 AS: discussed at November 14th ARIA TF call with James, David, and Sharon from the IE team 17:45:11 https://www.w3.org/2011/11/14-pf-minutes.html#item02 17:45:30 AS: Sharon had an action to see if IE raises system alerts on DOM changes 17:45:42 CS: need to get these three back together 17:46:08 Andi sent note requesting availability for next week's UAI TF call or, as 2nd choice, the ARIA TF call on Monday 17:46:16 rrsagent, make minutes 17:46:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-aapi-minutes.html Andi 17:47:45 s/differently so we need to clarify it in the UAIG./differently so we need to clarify it in the UAIG. I'd like to discuss FF implementation with David. Will send a note to see if we can get together by phone this week./ 17:47:51 rrsagent, make minutes 17:47:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-aapi-minutes.html Andi 20:02:00 Zakim has left #aapi