IRC log of rd on 2011-11-03
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 7394
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
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- Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 03 November 2011
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- Chair: Harper_Simon
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- Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)
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- Agenda+ Editors update on submissions and preparations
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- Agenda+ Look Over New Topic Proposals
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- Agenda+ Any Other Business
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- zakim, save agenda
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- ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-rd-agenda.rdf
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
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- regrets+ Conway_Vivienne
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- regrets+ Kouroupetroglou_Christos
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- present+ Harper_Simon
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- present+ Brajnik_Giorgio
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- present+ Vigo_Markel
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- present+ Abou-Zahra_Shadi
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- regrets+ Yesilada_Yeliz
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- WAI_RDWG()12:00PM has now started
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- +??P2
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- zakim, ??p2 is me
- 15:58:16 [Zakim]
- +shadi; got it
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- present+ Batusic_Mario
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- rrsagent, make logs public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-rd-minutes.html sharper
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- shadi has changed the topic to:
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- markel has joined #rd
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- +??P7
- 16:02:11 [sharper]
- can't seem to get in via sip
- 16:02:12 [Peter]
- Zakim, ??P7 is me
- 16:02:12 [Zakim]
- +Peter; got it
- 16:02:19 [Peter]
- Zakim, mute me
- 16:02:19 [Zakim]
- Peter should now be muted
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- +Mario-Batusic
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- +??P6
- 16:03:18 [markel]
- Zakim, ??P6 is me
- 16:03:18 [Zakim]
- +markel; got it
- 16:03:23 [shadi]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 16:03:23 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see shadi, Peter (muted), Mario-Batusic, markel
- 16:03:25 [Peter]
- Zakim, unmute
- 16:03:25 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'unmute', Peter
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- +??P8
- 16:04:05 [Peter]
- Zakim, un mute
- 16:04:05 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'un mute', Peter
- 16:04:11 [Peter]
- errr
- 16:04:23 [Peter]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 16:04:23 [Zakim]
- Peter should no longer be muted
- 16:04:34 [giorgio]
- zakim, ??p8 is mine
- 16:04:34 [Zakim]
- +mine; got it
- 16:05:11 [shadi]
- zakim, mine is giorgio
- 16:05:11 [Zakim]
- +giorgio; got it
- 16:05:41 [Peter]
- Zakim, mute me
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- Peter should now be muted
- 16:06:01 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:06:01 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should now be muted
- 16:09:23 [Peter]
- sharper: Have you tried turning it off and on again :-)
- 16:09:44 [sharper]
- Let me try a systems reboot - please start without me.
- 16:10:30 [Peter]
- Zakim, scribe peter
- 16:10:30 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'scribe peter', Peter
- 16:10:32 [markel]
- lol
- 16:10:34 [Peter]
- hmm worth a try
- 16:10:41 [shadi]
- scribe: Peter
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- ah
- 16:10:47 [Peter]
- got it
- 16:10:53 [shadi]
- agenda?
- 16:11:08 [Peter]
- got it
- 16:11:13 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 16:11:13 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
- 16:11:44 [markel]
- not me
- 16:12:01 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 16:12:01 [Zakim]
- agendum 1 was just opened, shadi
- 16:12:04 [giorgio]
- q+
- 16:12:13 [shadi]
- zakim, close agendum 1
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- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, shadi
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- q- g
- 16:12:23 [shadi]
- zakim, close agendum 1
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- agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), closed
- 16:12:26 [Zakim]
- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. Editors update on submissions and preparations [from sharper]
- 16:12:30 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 2. "Editors update on submissions and preparations" taken up [from sharper]
- 16:13:23 [Peter]
- giorgio: have received 15 submissions but 2 false submissions ...
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- 1 cancelled the other 2 wrong submissions - leave 12
- 16:13:55 [Mario-Batusic]
- q+
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- submissions ...
- 16:14:34 [Peter]
- I collected all the author information in a spreadsheet and will send to the chairs soon and a list of reviewers...
- 16:15:08 [Peter]
- would like to be clear about issues such as conflict of interest ...
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- +??P11
- 16:15:37 [Peter]
- will send out a map of submissions ...
- 16:15:45 [markel]
- it was clear
- 16:16:00 [shadi]
- zakim, ??p11 is Simon
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- +Simon; got it
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- sharper has joined #rd
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- (for scribbing should each line prefix the speaker?)
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- zakim, minutes?
- 16:17:22 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, sharper.
- 16:17:32 [shadi]
- rrsagent, pointer?
- 16:17:32 [RRSAgent]
- See http://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-rd-irc#T16-17-32
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-rd-minutes.html shadi
- 16:18:09 [Peter]
- simon: could you give me a summary ...
- 16:18:24 [Peter]
- giorgio: …goes over summary...
- 16:18:48 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, unmute me
- 16:18:48 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should no longer be muted
- 16:18:56 [markel]
- :-)
- 16:18:57 [Peter]
- Need 4 other people for submission for which Markel is the author
- 16:19:04 [markel]
- do you already have them?
- 16:19:32 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:19:32 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should now be muted
- 16:19:40 [markel]
- Integration of Web Accessibility Metrics into a Semi-Automatic evaluation process
- 16:19:41 [Peter]
- girogio: goes over titles of submissions...
- 16:19:47 [markel]
- Measuring accessibility barriers on large scale sets of pages
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- Web Accessibility Metrics - A Continuing Conundrum
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- A Template-aware Web Accessibility metric
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- A metrics to make different DTDs documents evaluations comparable
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- Lexical Quality as an Accessibility Metric for the Textual Web
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- Attaining Metric Validity and Reliability with the Web Accessibility Quantitative Metric
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- The case for a WCAG-based evaluation scheme with a graded rating scale
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- A zero in AChecker means 10 in eXaminator: a comparison between two metrics by their scores
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- Context-Tailored Web Accessibility Metrics
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- Web Accessibility Metrics For A Post Digital World
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- Web Accessibility Metrics For A Post Digital World
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- Towards a score function for WCAG 2.0 benchmarking
- 16:20:36 [Peter]
- giorgio: they talk bout web accessibility metrics
- 16:20:55 [Peter]
- simon: have you a feel for how well the submissions fit in with the broader aim of the Wiki
- 16:21:12 [Peter]
- giorgio: haven't read the submissions yet
- 16:21:26 [Peter]
- simon: will you handle the admin details of the sumbissions
- 16:21:39 [Peter]
- giorgio: Markel created a reviewing template
- 16:22:08 [Peter]
- markel: I wrote a text file for reviewers and asses quality based on defined criteria from past weeks.
- 16:22:46 [Peter]
- …if a deadline concern because of scheduling (too early vs too late)
- 16:23:00 [Peter]
- …can we schedule another slot
- 16:23:07 [Peter]
- shadi: yes its possible
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- simon: good idea
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- (shadi your breaking up)
- 16:23:41 [giorgio]
- q+
- 16:23:44 [Peter]
- simon: wil work on it
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- …takes 2 to 3 days to setup a phone meeting bridge
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- q-
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- ack mar
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- ack gio
- 16:24:23 [Peter]
- previous scribe line: replace simon with shadi
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- giorgio: could be a meeting on Wed 9th
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- …another could be next RD meeting
- 16:24:54 [markel]
- +1
- 16:24:57 [Peter]
- simon: agrees
- 16:25:00 [shadi]
- +1
- 16:25:00 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, unmute me
- 16:25:00 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should no longer be muted
- 16:25:09 [Peter]
- sure
- 16:25:11 [giorgio]
- q+
- 16:25:19 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:25:19 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should now be muted
- 16:25:24 [Peter]
- simon: going out on txt file but how will coordinate?
- 16:25:37 [Peter]
- …will be some kind of wiki or doc?
- 16:26:07 [Peter]
- markel: initially email with template and then reviewers have to send back to group
- 16:26:25 [Peter]
- simon: ok for now, perhaps open conf in the future
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- shadi has joined #rd
- 16:26:41 [Mario-Batusic]
- q+
- 16:26:50 [Peter]
- giorgio: would have been great to have an electronic system in place but the overhead was too much for now.
- 16:26:55 [Peter]
- …email should work
- 16:27:29 [Peter]
- …we have 12 papers and reviewed at least 3 times … (lots of work to do :)
- 16:27:42 [Peter]
- …used this criteria so chairs get some work
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- …goes over details of who's doing what...
- 16:28:06 [Peter]
- ….waiting on your feedback
- 16:28:11 [Peter]
- simon: sounds good
- 16:28:19 [Peter]
- …next time sort something out in advance
- 16:28:27 [Peter]
- …what about length of reviews?
- 16:28:49 [Peter]
- …writing an in-depth review might be rough
- 16:29:22 [Peter]
- giorgio: not much reason for a detailed review because quite a short paper
- 16:29:28 [Peter]
- markel: agrees
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- ack gio
- 16:29:45 [Peter]
- markel: I would be able to put template on irc
- 16:29:57 [Peter]
- simon: sounds good
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- Paper title:
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- Authors:
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- _______________________________
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- Paper review:
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- _______________________________
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- Mark with an X how the paper satisfies the following criteria. You can find the definition of the criteria at http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Paper_Selection_Criteria:
- 16:30:09 [markel]
- 1. Relevance/appropriateness
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- [ ] disagree
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- [ ] mild disagreement
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- [ ] neutral
- 16:30:15 [markel]
- [ ] mild agreement
- 16:30:18 [markel]
- [ ] agreement
- 16:30:19 [markel]
- 2. Contribution/significance
- 16:30:21 [markel]
- [ ] disagree
- 16:30:23 [markel]
- [ ] mild disagreement
- 16:30:26 [markel]
- [ ] neutral
- 16:30:27 [markel]
- [ ] mild agreement
- 16:30:30 [markel]
- [ ] agreement
- 16:30:32 [markel]
- 3. Clarity/presentation
- 16:30:34 [markel]
- [ ] disagree
- 16:30:35 [markel]
- [ ] mild disagreement
- 16:30:37 [Peter]
- yes simon
- 16:30:38 [markel]
- [ ] neutral
- 16:30:40 [markel]
- [ ] mild agreement
- 16:30:40 [shadi]
- zakim unmute mario
- 16:30:42 [markel]
- [ ] agreement
- 16:30:43 [markel]
- 4. Soundness/correctness
- 16:30:45 [shadi]
- zakim, unmute mario
- 16:30:45 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should no longer be muted
- 16:30:45 [markel]
- [ ] disagree
- 16:30:47 [markel]
- [ ] mild disagreement
- 16:30:50 [markel]
- [ ] neutral
- 16:30:52 [markel]
- [ ] mild agreement
- 16:30:54 [markel]
- [ ] agreement
- 16:30:56 [markel]
- 5. Impact
- 16:30:58 [markel]
- [ ] disagree
- 16:30:58 [Peter]
- mario: time is too short to make system but we could use open conf system
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- [ ] mild disagreement
- 16:31:02 [markel]
- [ ] neutral
- 16:31:03 [markel]
- [ ] mild agreement
- 16:31:04 [sharper]
- ack mar
- 16:31:06 [markel]
- [ ] agreement
- 16:31:06 [Peter]
- …used in CSUN and works well
- 16:31:07 [Joshue108]
- Apologies!
- 16:31:08 [markel]
- 6. Generality of results and claims
- 16:31:09 [markel]
- [ ] disagree
- 16:31:11 [markel]
- [ ] mild disagreement
- 16:31:13 [markel]
- [ ] neutral
- 16:31:15 [markel]
- [ ] mild agreement
- 16:31:17 [markel]
- [ ] agreement
- 16:31:19 [markel]
- 7. Relation to other work
- 16:31:21 [markel]
- [ ] disagree
- 16:31:23 [markel]
- [ ] mild disagreement
- 16:31:26 [markel]
- [ ] neutral
- 16:31:27 [shadi]
- q+
- 16:31:27 [markel]
- [ ] mild agreement
- 16:31:30 [markel]
- [ ] agreement
- 16:31:32 [markel]
- OVERALL RECOMMENDATION
- 16:31:34 [markel]
- [ ] Accept
- 16:31:36 [markel]
- [ ] Accept with minor revisions
- 16:31:38 [markel]
- [ ] Reject
- 16:31:47 [Joshue108]
- I got caught up and missed meeting...
- 16:31:52 [Peter]
- simon: it works well and has a fast setup period and also know Robert at open conf and could help us out
- 16:32:02 [markel]
- q+
- 16:32:15 [sharper]
- ack shadi
- 16:32:23 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:32:23 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should now be muted
- 16:32:36 [Peter]
- shadi: put me in contact with Robert for details on how
- 16:32:49 [Peter]
- …mario had warned me about using a conf system
- 16:33:08 [Peter]
- …the submission was not going well with read access and confidentiallity
- 16:33:14 [Peter]
- simon: I'll do that
- 16:33:21 [sharper]
- ack mark
- 16:33:36 [Peter]
- markel: agrees about open conf
- 16:33:51 [Peter]
- …but lets leave it for the next time
- 16:34:24 [Mario-Batusic]
- q+
- 16:34:31 [shadi]
- q+
- 16:34:36 [Peter]
- simon: pleased with the submissions and since a very specific call this is encouraging that people wanted to write these papers and send them to us
- 16:34:45 [Peter]
- … encouraging for future submissions
- 16:34:49 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, unmute
- 16:34:49 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'unmute', Mario-Batusic
- 16:35:08 [Peter]
- (Zakim, unmute me)
- 16:35:11 [shadi]
- zakim, unmute mario
- 16:35:11 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should no longer be muted
- 16:35:11 [sharper]
- ack mario
- 16:35:15 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, unmute me
- 16:35:15 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic was not muted, Mario-Batusic
- 16:35:34 [Peter]
- mario: if 12 submissions are ok is it possible to hear them all in symposium?
- 16:35:40 [giorgio]
- q+
- 16:35:43 [markel]
- q+
- 16:35:45 [Peter]
- simon: that would be my feeling but not sure what editors think?
- 16:35:48 [shadi]
- q- later
- 16:35:57 [shadi]
- ack gi
- 16:36:01 [Peter]
- giorgio: yes I think we could accept all of them
- 16:36:11 [Peter]
- …no more than 10 minutes each
- 16:36:24 [Peter]
- …I would review them anyway with criteria
- 16:36:44 [Peter]
- …to use as a filter
- 16:36:50 [Peter]
- mario: wanted to know if have enough time
- 16:37:03 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, unmute me
- 16:37:03 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic was not muted, Mario-Batusic
- 16:37:04 [Peter]
- simon: think will have enough time or make time
- 16:37:08 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:37:08 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should now be muted
- 16:37:19 [Peter]
- simon: even if run out of time still accept them if possible
- 16:37:20 [sharper]
- ack mar
- 16:37:38 [Peter]
- markel: I think we have more than enough time but we shouldn't accept anything
- 16:37:47 [giorgio]
- I agree with markel
- 16:37:50 [Peter]
- …lets be cautious based on minimal quality
- 16:37:57 [Peter]
- simon: agrees
- 16:38:14 [Peter]
- …encouraged because I know a lot of the authors
- 16:38:21 [sharper]
- ack shadi
- 16:38:45 [Peter]
- shadi: on the positive note, is at W3C planning meeting, and has been approached by
- 16:39:01 [Peter]
- …technical planery meeting
- 16:39:10 [Peter]
- …approached by 2 or 3 people that wanted to write a paper
- 16:39:25 [Peter]
- simon: talk of RD there?
- 16:39:30 [markel]
- i'm lost, to write a paper about what?
- 16:39:37 [Peter]
- shadi: has been promoting it and an agenda update
- 16:39:59 [markel]
- q+
- 16:40:00 [Peter]
- …even though a focussed call still received attention and suspect people willow ant to listen in on the symposium
- 16:40:09 [Peter]
- simon: can only get better
- 16:40:11 [sharper]
- ack mar
- 16:40:33 [Peter]
- markel: more details about who approached you shadi
- 16:40:52 [Peter]
- shadi: interested in subject and wanted to write a paper but ran out of paper
- 16:41:07 [giorgio]
- q+
- 16:41:09 [Peter]
- yup
- 16:41:13 [sharper]
- ack gio
- 16:41:27 [Peter]
- giorgio: should we decide on names of additional reviewers?
- 16:41:35 [Peter]
- simon: trust you guys to decide on editors
- 16:41:42 [Peter]
- shadi: are they outside group?
- 16:41:46 [Peter]
- giorgio: yes
- 16:42:07 [Peter]
- shadi: we want to recognize them and give credit
- 16:42:26 [Peter]
- giorgio: if we want to be clear about conflict of interest it would be better if Markel wouldn't know
- 16:42:30 [Peter]
- simon: agrees
- 16:42:46 [Peter]
- …can give credit in note
- 16:42:54 [Mario-Batusic]
- q+
- 16:43:01 [sharper]
- ack mario
- 16:43:02 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, unmute me
- 16:43:05 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic was not muted, Mario-Batusic
- 16:43:15 [Peter]
- mario: would appreciate to be among regular reviewers
- 16:43:19 [Peter]
- giorgio: yes
- 16:43:36 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:43:36 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should now be muted
- 16:43:44 [Peter]
- (should I put a command in for that?)
- 16:43:57 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 16:43:57 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Look Over New Topic Proposals" taken up [from sharper]
- 16:44:04 [Peter]
- (ah ok)
- 16:44:20 [sharper]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki
- 16:44:34 [Peter]
- shadi: want to say something about new topics on wiki?
- 16:44:43 [Peter]
- scribe: shadi replace with simon
- 16:45:09 [markel]
- that sounds good
- 16:45:10 [Peter]
- shadi: would like to report on discussion with (missed who) and working on markup languages
- 16:45:18 [Peter]
- simon: is on wiki?
- 16:45:27 [Peter]
- shadi: no discussion was yesterday
- 16:45:38 [Peter]
- …3v web consortium
- 16:45:47 [shadi]
- 3D
- 16:45:53 [Peter]
- (oh sorry :)
- 16:46:07 [markel]
- Is it this one? http://www.web3d.org/realtime-3d/
- 16:46:07 [Peter]
- …they've been working on accessibility of 3D stuff
- 16:46:33 [Peter]
- shadi: suggest have one of 3D join us as a guest on upcoming call
- 16:46:39 [markel]
- that'd be great
- 16:46:42 [Peter]
- …to introduce work for potential interest
- 16:46:52 [Peter]
- simon: yes and could they add to our wiki?
- 16:47:06 [Peter]
- …could suggest research work
- 16:47:18 [Peter]
- …as opose to a suggestion
- 16:47:35 [Peter]
- shadi: yes am following up on proposal and putting up generic research topics
- 16:47:42 [Peter]
- …they also have a topic for a symposium
- 16:48:00 [Peter]
- …why would like to have them join in as a guest to introduce topic(s)
- 16:48:07 [Peter]
- …3D and virtual reality stuff
- 16:48:16 [Peter]
- (lost a bit)
- 16:48:27 [Peter]
- …and are very aware of accessibility and want to get invovled
- 16:48:37 [Peter]
- simon: sounds good
- 16:48:49 [Peter]
- …especially if they already have some ideas
- 16:49:05 [Peter]
- …especially if they could put something on the wiki to reference while they're talking
- 16:49:32 [Peter]
- simon:9 new topics on wiki
- 16:49:45 [Peter]
- …do we want to create a survey?
- 16:49:51 [Peter]
- …any that look interesting
- 16:49:59 [Peter]
- CSS3 perhas
- 16:50:02 [Peter]
- perhaps
- 16:50:07 [Peter]
- but its perhaps too rough
- 16:50:13 [Peter]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/CSS/Spec_Review
- 16:50:26 [Peter]
- simon: perhaps and touch events
- 16:50:36 [Peter]
- …accessibility security
- 16:50:39 [sharper]
- 12http://www.w3.org/community/cssacc/
- 16:50:59 [Peter]
- …css accessibility community group and liaison with them might be interesting
- 16:51:17 [Peter]
- …Steve Falkner is doing a lot of the CSS3 work
- 16:51:32 [Peter]
- simon: ok to move on?
- 16:51:41 [Peter]
- markel: are we running a survey?
- 16:51:53 [Peter]
- …agree with shadi perhaps too cold
- 16:52:00 [Peter]
- …can use next thursday?
- 16:52:10 [Peter]
- simon: thing about survey is that last time it got things going
- 16:52:36 [Peter]
- …it would go off to entire list an non-attendees could respond
- 16:52:58 [Peter]
- simon: next thursday is reserved for scientific community?
- 16:53:07 [Peter]
- markel: yes
- 16:53:11 [Peter]
- giorgio: yes
- 16:53:17 [Peter]
- ?mario:yes?
- 16:53:28 [Peter]
- simon: goes over submission details
- 16:53:41 [Peter]
- …then return to wiki discussion
- 16:53:47 [Peter]
- markel: sounds good
- 16:53:49 [shadi]
- +1
- 16:53:51 [Mario-Batusic]
- yes
- 16:53:51 [giorgio]
- +1
- 16:53:53 [Peter]
- simon: everyone happy?
- 16:53:54 [Peter]
- sure
- 16:53:54 [sharper]
- +1
- 16:54:12 [Peter]
- simon: will send out an email for the scientific committee
- 16:54:25 [Peter]
- …could someone send me a list of the scientific ...
- 16:54:32 [Peter]
- giorgio: is in call for paper
- 16:54:41 [Peter]
- …somewhere in wiki
- 16:54:43 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/cfp.html
- 16:55:05 [Peter]
- simon: will add one more to list - mario
- 16:55:30 [Peter]
- simon: will send this out … 12 submissions … list of titles ...
- 16:55:34 [giorgio]
- q+
- 16:55:52 [Peter]
- giogrio: note sure what to do with 12 submissions
- 16:56:01 [Peter]
- simon: will put titles of submissions in email
- 16:56:06 [Peter]
- …more of an advertising thing
- 16:56:34 [shadi]
- q+
- 16:56:38 [Peter]
- …reaching out to list to try to get participation from large companies
- 16:56:43 [shadi]
- ack giorgio
- 16:56:45 [Peter]
- giorgio: breaking confidentiality?
- 16:56:50 [Peter]
- …making public
- 16:56:58 [markel]
- i would only announce the accepted ones
- 16:57:03 [Peter]
- simon:topics on agenda anyways so is public already
- 16:57:09 [Mario-Batusic]
- q+
- 16:57:15 [Peter]
- simon: will think about it
- 16:57:21 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, unmute me
- 16:57:21 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should no longer be muted
- 16:57:24 [Peter]
- giorgio: details about paper not public
- 16:57:32 [Peter]
- simon: titles are public
- 16:57:38 [markel]
- oh yeah
- 16:57:41 [Peter]
- …in munutes
- 16:57:42 [markel]
- i did that
- 16:57:49 [shadi]
- ack mario
- 16:57:52 [Peter]
- mario: submissions shouldn't be public before accepted
- 16:58:00 [Peter]
- simon: public in IRC
- 16:58:03 [Peter]
- .minutes
- 16:58:09 [Peter]
- markel: sorry yes
- 16:58:30 [Peter]
- shadi: (will take them off the minutes)
- 16:58:50 [Peter]
- …are planning to make 17 nov announcement when agenda ready
- 16:59:08 [Peter]
- …here are the accepted papers addition participants are welcome to participate by phone
- 16:59:11 [Mario-Batusic]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:59:11 [Zakim]
- Mario-Batusic should now be muted
- 16:59:12 [Peter]
- (lost rest)
- 16:59:28 [giorgio]
- good
- 16:59:31 [Peter]
- simon: if will remove titles from minutes then don't need in email
- 17:00:00 [giorgio]
- bye
- 17:00:04 [markel]
- cool
- 17:00:04 [Peter]
- cheers :)
- 17:00:05 [markel]
- bye!
- 17:00:14 [markel]
- thanks Peter!
- 17:00:16 [Peter]
- (np was fun would be happy to scribe more in the future)
- 17:00:17 [sharper]
- bye
- 17:00:22 [Mario-Batusic]
- thanks and bye
- 17:00:25 [Zakim]
- -shadi
- 17:00:27 [markel]
- markel has left #rd
- 17:00:31 [Zakim]
- -markel
- 17:00:33 [Zakim]
- -giorgio
- 17:00:39 [sharper]
- shadi are you OK to sort the minutes out
- 17:00:50 [Zakim]
- -Mario-Batusic
- 17:01:00 [Zakim]
- -Simon
- 17:03:08 [Zakim]
- -Peter
- 17:03:09 [Zakim]
- WAI_RDWG()12:00PM has ended
- 17:03:10 [Zakim]
- Attendees were shadi, Peter, Mario-Batusic, markel, giorgio, Simon
- 17:03:12 [shadi]
- zakim, list attendees
- 17:03:12 [Zakim]
- sorry, shadi, I don't know what conference this is
- 17:03:18 [shadi]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 17:03:18 [Zakim]
- apparently WAI_RDWG()12:00PM has ended, shadi
- 17:03:19 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see shadi, sharper, RRSAgent, Zakim, Mario-Batusic, Joshue, Mate, nonge_, trackbot
- 17:03:28 [shadi]
- trackbot, end meeting
- 17:03:28 [trackbot]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 17:03:28 [Zakim]
- sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
- 17:03:29 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 17:03:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-rd-minutes.html trackbot
- 17:03:30 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 17:03:30 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items
- 17:03:33 [shadi]
- zakim, bye
- 17:03:33 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #rd