13:57:20 RRSAgent has joined #gld 13:57:20 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-gld-irc 13:57:22 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:57:24 Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD 13:57:24 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 13:57:25 Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference 13:57:25 Date: 03 November 2011 13:59:32 Yigal has joined #gld 14:00:00 +Sandro 14:00:10 +[IPcaller] 14:00:12 +George 14:00:59 zakim, who's here 14:00:59 Yigal, you need to end that query with '?' 14:01:07 zakim, who's here? 14:01:07 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, [IPcaller] 14:01:08 On IRC I see Yigal, RRSAgent, ZacharyWhitley, George, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, MacTed, trackbot, sandro, Zakim 14:01:11 + +1.703.362.aabb 14:01:15 + +1.267.481.aacc 14:01:21 zakim, IPcaller is me 14:01:21 +Yigal; got it 14:01:36 zakim, i'm with mhausenblas 14:01:36 +cygri; got it 14:01:37 luisBermudez has joined #gld 14:02:01 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:02:01 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, Yigal, +1.703.362.aabb, +1.267.481.aacc 14:02:03 mhausenblas has cygri 14:02:18 zakim, aabb is COry 14:02:18 +COry; got it 14:02:25 zakim, COry is Cory 14:02:25 +Cory; got it 14:03:05 Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.03 14:03:28 zakim, who is on the call? 14:03:29 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, Yigal, Cory, +1.267.481.aacc 14:03:31 mhausenblas has cygri 14:04:04 + +1.443.569.aadd 14:04:08 +DanG 14:04:09 george: would you scribe, please? 14:04:22 zakim, who is here? 14:04:22 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, Yigal, Cory, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.443.569.aadd, DanG 14:04:24 mhausenblas has cygri 14:04:26 On IRC I see luisBermudez, Yigal, RRSAgent, ZacharyWhitley, George, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, MacTed, trackbot, sandro, Zakim 14:05:25 Dan has joined #gld 14:05:45 druidsmith_ has joined #gld 14:06:16 ZacharyWhitley: Do I scribe in the cat? 14:06:22 ZacharyWhitley: Do I scribe in the chat? 14:06:30 george: yes 14:06:59 DanG has joined #gld 14:07:10 scribe: ZacharyWhitley 14:07:11 + +1.202.566.aaee 14:07:25 druidsmith_ has joined #gld 14:07:44 zakim, who's here? 14:07:44 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, Yigal, Cory, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.443.569.aadd, DanG, +1.202.566.aaee 14:07:46 mhausenblas has cygri 14:07:47 On IRC I see druidsmith_, DanG, luisBermudez, Yigal, RRSAgent, ZacharyWhitley, George, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, MacTed, trackbot, sandro, Zakim 14:07:58 zakim, aaee is me 14:07:58 +druidsmith_; got it 14:08:34 chair: George Thomas 14:09:03 agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.03 14:10:27 hand up 14:11:36 q? 14:11:40 ack DanG 14:13:03 ZacharyWhitley has joined #gld 14:13:29 DanG Requests publication of documents on gld wiki 14:14:27 sandro: Anyone in the group can put a group "input" on the wiki or in the mailing list archives. Whether it's a group "output" is then up to a decision of the group. 14:15:14 DanG: Requests requests publication of documents on gld wiki 14:15:25 Action: DanG will post OGV docs as input to GLD on GLD wiki 14:15:25 Sorry, couldn't find user - DanG 14:16:09 zakim, who's here? 14:16:09 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, Yigal, Cory, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.443.569.aadd, DanG, druidsmith_ 14:16:11 mhausenblas has cygri 14:16:13 On IRC I see ZacharyWhitley, druidsmith_, DanG, luisBermudez, Yigal, RRSAgent, George, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, MacTed, trackbot, sandro, Zakim 14:16:16 olyerickson has joined #gld 14:17:21 HadleyBeeman has joined #gld 14:17:42 HadleyBeeman1 has joined #gld 14:18:44 mhausenblas: attended ISWC for a day, offers some comments 14:19:06 ... participated in panel 14:19:07 ACTION: Dan Gillman to post OGV docs as input to GLD on GLD wiki 14:19:07 Created ACTION-13 - Gillman to post OGV docs as input to GLD on GLD wiki [on Dan Gillman - due 2011-11-10]. 14:19:19 ACTION-13? 14:19:19 ACTION-13 -- Dan Gillman to gillman to post OGV docs as input to GLD on GLD wiki -- due 2011-11-10 -- OPEN 14:19:19 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/13 14:19:44 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:19:44 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, Yigal, Cory, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.443.569.aadd, DanG, druidsmith_ 14:19:47 mhausenblas has cygri 14:19:50 DanG, you may have to go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users and log in to add your DanG nickname to the table 14:21:26 Added 14:21:41 thanks DanG 14:21:42 TOPIC: Review minutes 14:21:57 zakim, what's the code? 14:21:57 the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), HadleyBeeman1 14:22:02 propose: accept minutes 14:22:04 +1 14:22:05 +1 to accept minutes 14:22:16 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-10-27 14:22:29 ??:minutes accepted 14:22:46 TOPIC: F2F-2 14:23:24 W3C GLD WG Second F2F, @ DERI Galway, 25-26 Jan 2012 14:23:54 q+ 14:24:09 ack me 14:24:15 +??P31 14:24:31 zakim, ??P31 is me 14:24:31 +olyerickson; got it 14:24:39 F2F Goal - publish First Working Draft of deliverables 14:24:41 mhausenblas: propose publishing first working draft after F2F-2 14:24:45 zakim, mute olyerickson 14:24:45 olyerickson should now be muted 14:25:29 sandro: id possible issues / points of disagreements / open issues prior to f2f 14:26:08 hand up 14:26:10 zakim, who's here? 14:26:10 On the phone I see mhausenblas, Sandro, George, Yigal, Cory, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.443.569.aadd, DanG, druidsmith_, olyerickson (muted) 14:26:13 mhausenblas has cygri 14:26:14 On IRC I see hadleybeeman, olyerickson, ZacharyWhitley, druidsmith_, DanG, luisBermudez, Yigal, RRSAgent, George, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, MacTed, trackbot, sandro, Zakim 14:26:15 q? 14:26:17 zakim, code? 14:26:17 the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), cygri 14:26:52 sandro++ 14:27:34 ack DanG 14:27:37 q? 14:27:57 sandro: Yes, it'll be good to identify deliverables we're looking like we will have trouble delivering, and use those as a lever to get more resources. IE say "it's looking like we wont be able to do FOO; if it's important, come help us with it." 14:28:22 q+ 14:28:34 RE Using Thurs calls for this, we can, but I think we need to use the email more aggresively 14:29:32 q? 14:29:46 -Cory 14:30:03 +HadleyBeeman 14:30:18 ack cygri 14:30:38 +Cory 14:31:00 q? 14:31:15 Cory: Can host in DC 14:31:52 ??: unknown if DERI has telecon facilities available 14:32:10 DanG: BLS has a video facility we might use, if DERI's works 14:32:29 TOPIC: F2F-2 telecon resources 14:33:06 -HadleyBeeman 14:33:20 ACTION: cygri to check availability of videoconferencing system in DERI 14:33:20 Created ACTION-14 - Check availability of videoconferencing system in DERI [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2011-11-10]. 14:33:34 DC is easily accessible for any of us on the east coast 14:34:03 colocation is a possible requirement and good option in general 14:34:11 cyrgi: telecon for US members unable to travel to F2F-2 14:34:49 Q: Why can't we use Skype, video, projectors, etc? 14:35:44 s/cyrgi/cygri/ 14:35:51 sandro: Maybe we can do a half-day or all-day tour of DERI projects the day before/after the F2F2, to help give one more reason to attend in person, and generally being useful 14:36:22 q? 14:36:25 +1 to tour of DERI projects...hoping I can attend in person... 14:36:34 no I'm not on q 14:36:49 +HadleyBeeman 14:37:16 sandro: use all tools that we can get working. High res optimal but do what we can 14:38:04 action: george to work on co-location tools and logistics 14:38:04 Created ACTION-15 - Work on co-location tools and logistics [on George Thomas - due 2011-11-10]. 14:40:05 +1 to "full week..." 14:40:15 TOPIC: Updates on W3C TPAC 14:40:36 http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/F2F4 14:41:14 sandro: broad ranging discussion on gov data issues 14:41:39 sandro: presentation of directory by bhyland 14:42:02 take me off mute 14:42:17 zakim, unmute olyerickson 14:42:17 olyerickson should no longer be muted 14:42:19 HadleyBeeman has joined #gld 14:43:46 q? 14:44:33 olyerickson: gld needs to buckle down on specific vocabulary recommendations 14:45:51 Philarcher1 is working on http://SEMIC.EU/ is about core vocabularies for eGov data exchange, and Asset Description metadata System (ADMS). 14:46:06 q+ 14:46:17 The documents I promised to give to the group from US OGV is the first start here. 14:47:03 olyerickson: group is well received by related int/work groups 14:47:15 martin has joined #gld 14:47:39 zakim, who is noisy? 14:47:39 zakim, who is talking? 14:47:41 Sorry, all— I'm having significant connection problems 14:47:49 cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (53%), olyerickson (61%) 14:47:55 zakim, mute olyerickson 14:47:55 olyerickson should now be muted 14:48:00 sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (48%), olyerickson (50%) 14:48:12 perfect 14:48:47 +1 to "modularity" (this was TBL's big point in his plenary cosing keynote) 14:49:05 HadleyBeeman: feedback from related groups is that biggest contribution gld can make is to make an interoperable vocab 14:50:01 HadleyBeeman: can you speak to the "indirection" point? 14:50:15 q+ 14:51:10 ack HadleyBeeman 14:51:18 HadleyBeeman: It was TBL's point...and came up in #opendata (gregg kellogg) 14:51:23 ack HadleyBeeman 14:51:42 ;) 14:51:52 take me off mute 14:52:02 +??P33 14:52:03 zakim, unmute olyerickson 14:52:03 olyerickson should no longer be muted 14:52:04 hello 14:52:08 zakim, unmute olyerickson 14:52:08 olyerickson was not muted, HadleyBeeman 14:52:25 zakim, ??p33 is me 14:52:25 +martin; got it 14:53:00 olyerickson: modularity of vocab and interoperability 14:53:32 olyerickson: adopting a vocabulary should be easy 14:54:03 olerickson: (paraphrasing Gregg Kellogg) 14:54:43 not just reuse, but how to make it easy 14:54:51 zakim, mote olyerickson 14:54:51 I don't understand 'mote olyerickson', cygri 14:54:55 ;) 14:54:59 zakim, mute olyerickson 14:54:59 olyerickson should now be muted 14:56:06 reusing vocabs is fine, but making it easy for GLD noobs to adopt (aggregated) vocabs 14:56:18 reinvention , possibly yes 14:56:42 +1 to mhausenblas correcting the time — it threw me too 14:57:41 what were the recommendations for making it easy? 14:58:03 if someone could add that to the wiki if it's available. 14:58:27 Thanks George and everyone! 14:58:32 -Sandro 14:58:33 -HadleyBeeman 14:58:35 -mhausenblas 14:58:35 -olyerickson 14:58:35 -DanG 14:58:36 Thanks George and everyone 14:58:36 -martin 14:58:39 Yigal has left #gld 14:58:39 -Cory 14:58:45 olyerickson has left #gld 14:58:45 -Yigal 14:58:46 -druidsmith_ 14:58:53 - +1.267.481.aacc 14:59:16 RRSAgent, set logs world-visible 14:59:44 RRSAgent, generate minutes 14:59:44 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-gld-minutes.html George 15:01:53 +bkaempgen 15:02:25 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-11-03 15:02:42 - +1.443.569.aadd 15:02:45 -George 15:02:49 BenediktKaempgen has joined #gld 15:03:52 zakim, who's here? 15:03:52 On the phone I see bkaempgen 15:03:53 On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, martin, HadleyBeeman, ZacharyWhitley, luisBermudez, RRSAgent, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, MacTed, trackbot, sandro, Zakim 15:04:11 Hi BenediktKaempgen - the call has just finished. 15:04:31 The US already changed their clocks back.... 15:04:35 BartvanLeeuwen has joined #gld 15:04:38 hey 15:04:41 hi 15:04:41 (which confused a few of us. :) ) 15:04:50 thanks for letting me know 15:04:57 -bkaempgen 15:04:58 T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 15:05:00 Attendees were +1.443.569.aaaa, mhausenblas, Sandro, George, +1.703.362.aabb, +1.267.481.aacc, Yigal, cygri, Cory, +1.443.569.aadd, DanG, +1.202.566.aaee, druidsmith_, olyerickson, 15:05:03 ... 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