IRC log of au on 2011-10-17

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19:50:11 [Jan]
Zakim, this will be AUWG
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ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 50 minutes ago
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Meeting: WAI AU
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011OctDec/0026.html
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Scribe: Jan
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Chair: Jutta Treviranus
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Regrets: Greg P.
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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+[Microsoft]
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+[Microsoft.a]
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-[Microsoft]
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+[Microsoft]
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+??P2
20:01:29 [Jan]
zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], ??P2
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot
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zakim, [Microsoft] is really Cherie
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+Cherie; got it
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zakim, [Microsoft.a] is really Alex
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+Alex; got it
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jeanne has joined #au
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zakim, ??P2 is really Jan
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+Jan; got it
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+Jeanne
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Tim has joined #au
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+Tim_Boland
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-Jeanne
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+??P6
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zakim, ??P6 is really Jutta
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+Jutta; got it
20:05:24 [Jan]
zakim, who's here?
20:05:24 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Cherie, Alex, Jan, Tim_Boland, Jutta
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On IRC I see Tim, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot
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+Jeanne
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011OctDec/0026.html
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+ +1.561.582.aaaa
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zakim, aaaa is really Sueann
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+Sueann; got it
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Topic: 1. Check-in on last call comments (due Sept 15)
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JR: WAI-PF comments?
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jeanne we can't hear you
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2. SURVEY results
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topic: 2. SURVEY results
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq10-choice
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AL: At best could attend half the time with earlier choices
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JT: Any other times during the week?
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AL: Starting at 15:00ET is fine
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SN: 3pm would be ok with a hard stop at 4pm
20:11:31 [jeanne]
+1
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TB: +1
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JR: +1
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CE: ok
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JT: Tentatively we will be shifting call to 3pm this coming Monday
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Topic: 1. Check-in on last call comments (due Sept 15)
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JT: WAI-PF comments?
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JS: None received
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JT: Comments received from at this point, we will read them and be advised by them but will officially respond at our discretion
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JT: Objections?
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All: No objections
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Topic: 2. SURVEY results
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq5
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Resolution: All accept change in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq5
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq7
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Defined term: Irreversible--> "Non-reversible"
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Actions that cannot be reversed and may include certain save and delete actions as well as actions made in a collaborative environment that another author has begun to work with.
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Actions that cannot be reversed (e.g. actions made in a collaborative environment that another author has begun to work with).
20:21:53 [Jan]
The opposite of reversible actions are non-reversible actions. These are actions which cannot be undone and thus the system cannot be returned to the state it was in immediately prior to initiating the action. Actions that are non-reversible may include certain save and delete actions as well as actions made in a collaborative environment involving multiple authors.
20:23:33 [Jan]
The opposite of reversible actions are non-reversible actions. These are actions which cannot be undone and thus the system cannot be returned to the state it was in immediately prior to initiating the action. Examples of actions that are non-reversible include as well as actions made in a collaborative environment involving multiple authors.
20:23:35 [Jan]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/ED-ATAG20-20110930/#sc_a411
20:25:14 [Jan]
The opposite of reversible actions are non-reversible actions. These are actions which cannot be undone and thus the system cannot be returned to the state it was in immediately prior to initiating the action. Examples of actions that are non-reversible include actions made in a collaborative environment involving multiple authors.
20:29:10 [Jan]
Action JR: To cleanup the use of reversible actions
20:29:11 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-357 - Cleanup the use of reversible actions [on Jan Richards - due 2011-10-24].
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Topic: A.2.2.1 Editing-View Status Information
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq8
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JR: hypenated "editing-view" was suggested change for readability
20:40:09 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq8 is still an open otem
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Topic: Defined term: Preview
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq9
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Action JR: Work in the term "authoring action" in to the preview defn note
20:50:46 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-358 - Work in the term "authoring action" in to the preview defn note [on Jan Richards - due 2011-10-24].
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Topic: Added note on term: Programmatically determined:
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2
20:55:05 [Jan]
Action JR: Try to work Alex's terminology into the text for the note in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2
20:55:06 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-359 - Try to work Alex's terminology into the text for the note in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2 [on Jan Richards - due 2011-10-24].
20:57:04 [Jan]
Topic: 3. Conformance claim harmonization with WCAG (SN's issue)
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SN: One thing in particular - will ID for you
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AL: Asks about commenters from last time...have we heard from them this time?
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Topic: 4. Future Meetings Planning
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JT: check attendance for extended call on 31 Oct 2011
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-Alex
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JT: 9:00am-2:00pm Pacific Time (noon-5:00pm Eastern Time)
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JT: Goal is to settle all of the blocker issues
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JR: Will be there
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JS: Will be there
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CE: Will be there
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JR: GP said he will be there
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SN: Will be there
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JT: Next week we will meet from 3-4pm
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-Cherie
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-Sueann
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-Jan
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-Jeanne
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-Jutta
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Cherie, Alex, Jan, Jeanne, Tim_Boland, Jutta, +1.561.582.aaaa, Sueann
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-minutes.html Jan
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RRSAgent, set logs public
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Zakim, bye
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Zakim has left #au
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: JR to To cleanup the use of reversible actions [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-irc#T20-29-10
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ACTION: JR to Work in the term "authoring action" in to the preview defn note [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-irc#T20-50-46
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ACTION: JR to Try to work Alex's terminology into the text for the note in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2 [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-irc#T20-55-05