19:50:05 RRSAgent has joined #au 19:50:05 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-irc 19:50:11 Zakim, this will be AUWG 19:50:11 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 50 minutes ago 19:50:20 Meeting: WAI AU 19:50:37 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011OctDec/0026.html 19:50:46 Scribe: Jan 19:50:51 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 19:51:08 Regrets: Greg P. 20:00:46 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 20:00:53 +[Microsoft] 20:01:07 +[Microsoft.a] 20:01:10 -[Microsoft] 20:01:11 +[Microsoft] 20:01:12 +??P2 20:01:29 zakim, who's here? 20:01:29 On the phone I see [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], ??P2 20:01:31 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot 20:01:57 zakim, [Microsoft] is really Cherie 20:01:57 +Cherie; got it 20:02:03 zakim, [Microsoft.a] is really Alex 20:02:03 +Alex; got it 20:02:10 jeanne has joined #au 20:02:29 zakim, ??P2 is really Jan 20:02:29 +Jan; got it 20:02:47 +Jeanne 20:03:12 Tim has joined #au 20:04:18 +Tim_Boland 20:04:32 -Jeanne 20:04:51 +??P6 20:05:18 zakim, ??P6 is really Jutta 20:05:18 +Jutta; got it 20:05:24 zakim, who's here? 20:05:24 On the phone I see Cherie, Alex, Jan, Tim_Boland, Jutta 20:05:25 On IRC I see Tim, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot 20:05:33 +Jeanne 20:05:56 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011OctDec/0026.html 20:06:22 + +1.561.582.aaaa 20:06:38 zakim, aaaa is really Sueann 20:06:38 +Sueann; got it 20:07:19 Topic: 1. Check-in on last call comments (due Sept 15) 20:07:22 Sueann has joined #au 20:07:37 JR: WAI-PF comments? 20:08:14 jeanne we can't hear you 20:08:46 2. SURVEY results 20:08:51 topic: 2. SURVEY results 20:08:58 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results 20:09:58 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq10-choice 20:10:30 AL: At best could attend half the time with earlier choices 20:10:41 JT: Any other times during the week? 20:10:54 AL: Starting at 15:00ET is fine 20:11:24 SN: 3pm would be ok with a hard stop at 4pm 20:11:31 +1 20:11:38 TB: +1 20:11:41 JR: +1 20:12:12 CE: ok 20:12:43 JT: Tentatively we will be shifting call to 3pm this coming Monday 20:13:29 Topic: 1. Check-in on last call comments (due Sept 15) 20:13:35 JT: WAI-PF comments? 20:13:42 JS: None received 20:15:52 JT: Comments received from at this point, we will read them and be advised by them but will officially respond at our discretion 20:16:06 JT: Objections? 20:16:12 All: No objections 20:17:18 Topic: 2. SURVEY results 20:17:23 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results 20:17:34 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq5 20:18:09 Resolution: All accept change in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq5 20:18:20 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq7 20:18:25 Defined term: Irreversible--> "Non-reversible" 20:20:36 Actions that cannot be reversed and may include certain save and delete actions as well as actions made in a collaborative environment that another author has begun to work with. 20:20:55 Actions that cannot be reversed (e.g. actions made in a collaborative environment that another author has begun to work with). 20:21:53 The opposite of reversible actions are non-reversible actions. These are actions which cannot be undone and thus the system cannot be returned to the state it was in immediately prior to initiating the action. Actions that are non-reversible may include certain save and delete actions as well as actions made in a collaborative environment involving multiple authors. 20:23:33 The opposite of reversible actions are non-reversible actions. These are actions which cannot be undone and thus the system cannot be returned to the state it was in immediately prior to initiating the action. Examples of actions that are non-reversible include as well as actions made in a collaborative environment involving multiple authors. 20:23:35 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/ED-ATAG20-20110930/#sc_a411 20:25:14 The opposite of reversible actions are non-reversible actions. These are actions which cannot be undone and thus the system cannot be returned to the state it was in immediately prior to initiating the action. Examples of actions that are non-reversible include actions made in a collaborative environment involving multiple authors. 20:29:10 Action JR: To cleanup the use of reversible actions 20:29:11 Created ACTION-357 - Cleanup the use of reversible actions [on Jan Richards - due 2011-10-24]. 20:29:31 Topic: A.2.2.1 Editing-View Status Information 20:29:36 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq8 20:31:12 JR: hypenated "editing-view" was suggested change for readability 20:40:09 -Tim_Boland 20:46:34 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq8 is still an open otem 20:46:47 Topic: Defined term: Preview 20:46:55 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq9 20:50:46 Action JR: Work in the term "authoring action" in to the preview defn note 20:50:46 Created ACTION-358 - Work in the term "authoring action" in to the preview defn note [on Jan Richards - due 2011-10-24]. 20:51:04 Topic: Added note on term: Programmatically determined: 20:51:14 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2 20:55:05 Action JR: Try to work Alex's terminology into the text for the note in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2 20:55:06 Created ACTION-359 - Try to work Alex's terminology into the text for the note in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2 [on Jan Richards - due 2011-10-24]. 20:57:04 Topic: 3. Conformance claim harmonization with WCAG (SN's issue) 20:57:53 SN: One thing in particular - will ID for you 20:59:26 AL: Asks about commenters from last time...have we heard from them this time? 21:00:46 Topic: 4. Future Meetings Planning 21:00:56 JT: check attendance for extended call on 31 Oct 2011 21:01:08 -Alex 21:01:20 JT: 9:00am-2:00pm Pacific Time (noon-5:00pm Eastern Time) 21:01:42 JT: Goal is to settle all of the blocker issues 21:01:49 JR: Will be there 21:01:52 JS: Will be there 21:01:55 CE: Will be there 21:02:12 JR: GP said he will be there 21:03:04 SN: Will be there 21:03:44 JT: Next week we will meet from 3-4pm 21:03:50 -Cherie 21:03:51 -Sueann 21:04:00 -Jan 21:04:02 -Jeanne 21:04:13 -Jutta 21:04:14 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended 21:04:16 Attendees were Cherie, Alex, Jan, Jeanne, Tim_Boland, Jutta, +1.561.582.aaaa, Sueann 21:04:24 RRSAgent, make minutes 21:04:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-minutes.html Jan 21:04:40 RRSAgent, set logs public 21:04:48 Zakim, bye 21:04:48 Zakim has left #au 21:04:53 RRSAgent, bye 21:04:53 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-actions.rdf : 21:04:53 ACTION: JR to To cleanup the use of reversible actions [1] 21:04:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-irc#T20-29-10 21:04:53 ACTION: JR to Work in the term "authoring action" in to the preview defn note [2] 21:04:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-irc#T20-50-46 21:04:53 ACTION: JR to Try to work Alex's terminology into the text for the note in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20111014/results#xq2 [3] 21:04:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-au-irc#T20-55-05