19:49:49 RRSAgent has joined #au 19:49:49 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-au-irc 19:49:54 Zakim, this will be AUWG 19:49:54 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 49 minutes ago 19:50:02 Meeting: WAI AU 19:50:38 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JulSep/0114.html 20:01:20 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 20:01:27 +[Microsoft] 20:01:31 jeanne has joined #au 20:01:45 Jan has joined #au 20:01:46 +Jeanne 20:01:57 zakim, who is here? 20:01:57 On the phone I see [Microsoft], Jeanne 20:01:58 On IRC I see Jan, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot 20:02:26 +??P2 20:02:28 +??P3 20:02:53 zakim, ??P2 is really Jan 20:02:53 +Jan; got it 20:03:06 zakim, ??P3 is really Jutta 20:03:06 +Jutta; got it 20:03:48 regrets: Cherie E., Alastair C, Tim B, Greg P 20:04:03 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 20:04:06 + +1.561.582.aaaa 20:04:22 zakim, aaaa is really Sueann N. 20:04:22 I don't understand 'aaaa is really Sueann N', Jan 20:04:27 zakim, aaaa is really Sueann 20:04:27 +Sueann; got it 20:05:44 Sueann has joined #au 20:07:02 Topic: 1. Publication plans (Jutta) and checkin on last call comments (due Sept 15) 20:07:20 JT: We really need to move forward towards Rec 20:07:38 JT: We need to establish a cutoff date to receive and deal with comments 20:07:48 JT: All comments need to be in by EOD on Friday 20:08:35 JT: Oct 7th 20:08:52 AL: Who is missing 20:09:07 JS: Adobe, IBM, PF group 20:09:45 SN: Can't meet that deadline 20:10:27 JS:We can't keep waiting...could you prioritize items that might be controversial? 20:11:28 JT: Any items beyond what MS has identified 20:11:50 SN: There has simply been a lot of changes, so I don't know 20:11:58 scribe: Jan 20:12:35 SN: Reality is that when this comes out as LC, that's when the heavy scrutiny will happen and there is no way around it 20:13:13 JT: How do we comm to WAIPF? 20:13:38 -Jan 20:13:48 JS: I will send him an email 20:14:06 got kicked off 20:14:24 +??P2 20:14:35 zakim, ??P2 is really Jan 20:14:35 +Jan; got it 20:15:38 Topic: 2. TPAC (please register soon!) 20:16:41 SN: Won't be there inperson...can attend by phone 20:17:48 AL: Won't be there inperson 20:18:09 AL: Can't confirm yet by phone 20:19:16 JT: Better times or places? 20:19:36 AL: open-ended? 20:20:00 JT: A fixed dedicated time to work on the draft.... 20:20:15 JT: eg in conjunction with another event 20:20:31 JT: eg mEnabling Summit in Washington 20:21:15 AL: Best to stick to what you have or send out a survey 20:22:45 JT: Would be great to have you at least there by phone 20:23:11 Topic: 3. Proposals responding to comments 20:23:28 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results 20:24:01 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq5 20:24:10 A.2.1.2 "Alternatives for Rendered Time-Based Media", rewording of "(a) Option to Render" 20:24:30 Resolution: All agree on http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq5 20:24:37 In "A.3.1.2 No Keyboard Traps", replacing "known" by "documented". 20:24:42 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq7 20:25:42 SN: As a level A requirement the proposal is too prescriptive. Should just ensure the correct result is achieved without indicating how it is accomplished. 20:25:53 JT: Just changing one word 20:35:48 JR: Will look more at keyboard trap wording 20:37:08 SN: Just that user can't be trapped (breaking up a bit).... 20:37:46 SN: If there is a special mechanism then it is covered by documenting requiremetn 20:38:20 SN: don't really see need for special nature of the direction 20:39:00 In "A.4.1.2 Setting Changes Reversible", simplifying the wording and removing the save option. 20:39:11 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq8 20:39:35 If a change to an authoring tool setting is not reversible, then the authoring tool requires author confirmation to proceed. 20:40:54 A.4.1.2 Settings change confirmation: If a change to an authoring tool setting is not reversible, then the authoring tool requires author confirmation to proceed. 20:41:10 Resolution: All agree with " A.4.1.2 Settings change confirmation: If a change to an authoring tool setting is not reversible, then the authoring tool requires author confirmation to proceed. " 20:41:39 In applicability note: B.3 "Applicability after the end of an authoring session" replacing "has specified" with "causes" 20:41:54 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq9 20:42:16 Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq9 20:42:23 New rationale for B.4.2 20:42:29 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq10 20:42:35 Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq10 20:42:44 In the definition of authoring tool, replacing "software" with "application" 20:42:51 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq11 20:43:05 Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq11 20:43:13 Modified definition of "prompt": 20:43:18 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq12 20:43:23 Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq12 20:46:43 Here is the SC: A.3.6.5 Assistance with Preferences: If the authoring tool includes display and/or control settings, then the authoring tool includes a mechanism to help authors configure these settings. (Level AAA) 20:46:54 AL: If this is nothing why here? 20:47:27 JS: I think its useful 20:47:42 AL: At what point does it fail? 20:48:46 AL: Would be very weird not have any help at all 20:49:52 JR: Let's just hold it over 20:51:06 JT: Maybe we should review the original intent to see if it has been lost 20:52:29 JR: maybe explore conflict management at AAA? 20:52:41 JT: That's just one of the parts 20:53:20 JT: better to pull back to our original intent of making things easier for authors 20:53:31 JT: Maybe we will circle back 20:54:24 Topic: Meeting time change? 20:54:43 SN: What do people think about 3pm ET? 20:54:59 AL: OK with me 20:56:19 JR: OK with me 20:56:38 JS: Would love to move it 20:56:53 JT: Let's test 230-330 and 300-400 20:59:01 -[Microsoft] 20:59:03 -Sueann 20:59:17 zakim, who's here? 20:59:17 On the phone I see Jeanne, Jutta, Jan 20:59:18 On IRC I see Sueann, Jan, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot 21:09:54 RRSAgent, make minutes 21:09:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-au-minutes.html Jan 21:10:00 RRSAgent, set logs public 21:10:06 Zakim, bye 21:10:11 RRSAgent, bye 21:10:11 I see no action items