IRC log of au on 2011-10-03
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-au-irc
- 19:49:54 [Jan]
- Zakim, this will be AUWG
- 19:49:54 [Zakim]
- ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 49 minutes ago
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- Meeting: WAI AU
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JulSep/0114.html
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- WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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- +[Microsoft]
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- Jan has joined #au
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- +Jeanne
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- zakim, who is here?
- 20:01:57 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see [Microsoft], Jeanne
- 20:01:58 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Jan, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot
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- +??P2
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- +??P3
- 20:02:53 [Jan]
- zakim, ??P2 is really Jan
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- +Jan; got it
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- zakim, ??P3 is really Jutta
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- +Jutta; got it
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- regrets: Cherie E., Alastair C, Tim B, Greg P
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- Chair: Jutta Treviranus
- 20:04:06 [Zakim]
- + +1.561.582.aaaa
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- zakim, aaaa is really Sueann N.
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- I don't understand 'aaaa is really Sueann N', Jan
- 20:04:27 [Jan]
- zakim, aaaa is really Sueann
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- +Sueann; got it
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- Topic: 1. Publication plans (Jutta) and checkin on last call comments (due Sept 15)
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- JT: We really need to move forward towards Rec
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- JT: We need to establish a cutoff date to receive and deal with comments
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- JT: All comments need to be in by EOD on Friday
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- JT: Oct 7th
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- AL: Who is missing
- 20:09:07 [Jan]
- JS: Adobe, IBM, PF group
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- SN: Can't meet that deadline
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- JS:We can't keep waiting...could you prioritize items that might be controversial?
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- JT: Any items beyond what MS has identified
- 20:11:50 [Jan]
- SN: There has simply been a lot of changes, so I don't know
- 20:11:58 [Jan]
- scribe: Jan
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- SN: Reality is that when this comes out as LC, that's when the heavy scrutiny will happen and there is no way around it
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- JT: How do we comm to WAIPF?
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- -Jan
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- JS: I will send him an email
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- got kicked off
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- +??P2
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- zakim, ??P2 is really Jan
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- +Jan; got it
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- Topic: 2. TPAC (please register soon!)
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- SN: Won't be there inperson...can attend by phone
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- AL: Won't be there inperson
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- AL: Can't confirm yet by phone
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- JT: Better times or places?
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- AL: open-ended?
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- JT: A fixed dedicated time to work on the draft....
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- JT: eg in conjunction with another event
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- JT: eg mEnabling Summit in Washington
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- AL: Best to stick to what you have or send out a survey
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- JT: Would be great to have you at least there by phone
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- Topic: 3. Proposals responding to comments
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq5
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- A.2.1.2 "Alternatives for Rendered Time-Based Media", rewording of "(a) Option to Render"
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- Resolution: All agree on http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq5
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- In "A.3.1.2 No Keyboard Traps", replacing "known" by "documented".
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq7
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- SN: As a level A requirement the proposal is too prescriptive. Should just ensure the correct result is achieved without indicating how it is accomplished.
- 20:25:53 [Jan]
- JT: Just changing one word
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- JR: Will look more at keyboard trap wording
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- SN: Just that user can't be trapped (breaking up a bit)....
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- SN: If there is a special mechanism then it is covered by documenting requiremetn
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- SN: don't really see need for special nature of the direction
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- In "A.4.1.2 Setting Changes Reversible", simplifying the wording and removing the save option.
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq8
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- If a change to an authoring tool setting is not reversible, then the authoring tool requires author confirmation to proceed.
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- A.4.1.2 Settings change confirmation: If a change to an authoring tool setting is not reversible, then the authoring tool requires author confirmation to proceed.
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- Resolution: All agree with "A.4.1.2 Settings change confirmation: If a change to an authoring tool setting is not reversible, then the authoring tool requires author confirmation to proceed. "
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- In applicability note: B.3 "Applicability after the end of an authoring session" replacing "has specified" with "causes"
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq9
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- Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq9
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- New rationale for B.4.2
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq10
- 20:42:35 [Jan]
- Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq10
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- In the definition of authoring tool, replacing "software" with "application"
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq11
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- Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq11
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- Modified definition of "prompt":
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq12
- 20:43:23 [Jan]
- Resolution: All ok with http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110930/results#xq12
- 20:46:43 [Jan]
- Here is the SC: A.3.6.5 Assistance with Preferences: If the authoring tool includes display and/or control settings, then the authoring tool includes a mechanism to help authors configure these settings. (Level AAA)
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- AL: If this is nothing why here?
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- JS: I think its useful
- 20:47:42 [Jan]
- AL: At what point does it fail?
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- AL: Would be very weird not have any help at all
- 20:49:52 [Jan]
- JR: Let's just hold it over
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- JT: Maybe we should review the original intent to see if it has been lost
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- JR: maybe explore conflict management at AAA?
- 20:52:41 [Jan]
- JT: That's just one of the parts
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- JT: better to pull back to our original intent of making things easier for authors
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- JT: Maybe we will circle back
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- Topic: Meeting time change?
- 20:54:43 [Jan]
- SN: What do people think about 3pm ET?
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- AL: OK with me
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- JR: OK with me
- 20:56:38 [Jan]
- JS: Would love to move it
- 20:56:53 [Jan]
- JT: Let's test 230-330 and 300-400
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -Sueann
- 20:59:17 [Jan]
- zakim, who's here?
- 20:59:17 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Jeanne, Jutta, Jan
- 20:59:18 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Sueann, Jan, jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, trackbot
- 21:09:54 [Jan]
- RRSAgent, make minutes
- 21:09:54 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-au-minutes.html Jan
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- RRSAgent, set logs public
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- Zakim, bye
- 21:10:11 [Jan]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 21:10:11 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items