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19:58:48 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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19:58:50 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:58:50 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM already started
19:58:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
19:58:51 <trackbot> Date: 29 September 2011
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20:00:18 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:00:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.418.aaaa, +1.703.602.aabb, Judy, Jeanne, [Oracle]
20:00:33 <jamesn> zakim, Oracle is James_Nurthen
20:00:34 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen; got it
20:01:29 <Zakim> - +1.703.602.aabb
20:01:30 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
20:01:30 <Zakim> - +1.202.418.aaaa
20:01:33 <Zakim> -Judy
20:01:49 <Zakim> -Jeanne
20:01:50 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM has ended
20:01:52 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.202.418.aaaa, +1.703.602.aabb, Judy, Jeanne, James_Nurthen
20:01:55 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the Phone
20:01:55 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the Phone', jamesn
20:02:00 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the Phone?
20:02:01 <Zakim> apparently WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM has ended, jamesn
20:02:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see Mary, jamesn, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, trackbot
20:03:34 <MichaelC> zakim, this is 9224
20:03:34 <Zakim> ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_WCAG()4:00PM
20:03:43 <MichaelC> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:03:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mary_Utt, James_Nurthen, Bruce_Bailey
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20:04:02 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
20:04:47 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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20:05:11 <Zakim> +Marc_Johlic
20:05:13 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JulSep/0176.html
20:06:02 <MichaelC> regrets: Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:06:36 <MichaelC> regrets+ Adam_Solomon
20:07:10 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:07:44 <jamesn> scribeNick: jamesn
20:09:26 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2464: Statement of Partial Conformance as proposed
20:09:47 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2476: Errata page at http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/errata/ as proposed
20:10:05 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2477: Expanding acronym of WCAG 2.0 in the document title as proposed
20:12:37 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:12:56 <Zakim> +??P13
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20:13:33 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2563: Generating PDF Files - Complexity of last para.  as proposed
20:13:46 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2566: Word's table headings as proposed
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20:14:06 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2568: Inclusiveness of examples in PDF Techniques as proposed
20:15:10 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept to Draft a new failure for text input causing a change of context	 for 3.2.2 for future review
20:15:32 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting conventions for headings 
20:19:21 <Loretta> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2011Sep/0033.html
20:24:06 <MichaelC> issue: Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility supported" yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss if it makes sense to keep plain text techniques or what.
20:24:06 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-9 - Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility supported" yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss if it makes sense to keep plain text techniques or what. ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/9/edit .
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20:24:48 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting conventions for headings as amended 
20:25:37 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and widely used - allow? 
20:27:10 <jamesn> Loretta proposes keeping this issue open with a note that we don't plan to address it in this iteration
20:28:05 <jamesn> Michael proposes an issue or an action which could be linked to this issue. Then close this one.
20:28:15 <MichaelC> issue: Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script
20:28:15 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-10 - Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/10/edit .
20:28:28 <MichaelC> issue-10: relates to comment LC-2494 http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20101014/2494
20:28:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script notes added
20:28:56 <MichaelC> issue-10: surveyed 29 September 2011 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110929/results#x2494
20:28:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script notes added
20:30:33 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and widely used - allow? as amended with pointer to new issue
20:31:12 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2498: Understanding SC 2.4.6 needs improvement 
20:31:33 <jamesn> looks like the response is garbled. Need to bounce back to person who proposed.
20:31:55 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2499: Mixup in Understanding doc: SC 3.2.2 and SC 3.2.5 
20:32:31 <jamesn> Loretta proposes leaving this open too
20:33:30 <jamesn> leave this open
20:33:36 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects 
20:34:37 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects as amended
20:34:47 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support 
20:39:28 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support as proposed
20:39:36 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:39:48 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content 
20:41:18 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/time-limits-pause.html
20:42:31 <jamesn> zakim, who is noisy?
20:42:42 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:42:47 <Zakim> jamesn, listening for 13 seconds I could not identify any sounds
20:48:08 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20110621/2546
20:49:27 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content as amended
20:49:54 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques 
20:54:00 <Loretta>  The PDF techniques link to PDF files that can be used for testing the technique.
20:55:48 <Loretta> The examples in the PDF techniques link to PDF files that may be used for testing the techniques.
20:57:18 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques as amended
20:57:30 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:57:40 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2569: Example 2 
20:59:00 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:59:53 <jamesn> ACTION: james to contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569
20:59:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-153 - Contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569 [on James Nurthen - due 2011-10-06].
21:00:30 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image? 
21:01:12 <jamesn> Loretta states that doesn't want this merged now but should perhaps be addressed in the next set of work
21:01:35 <jamesn> Removing techniques at this stage of the review process probably shouldn't happen
21:02:06 <MichaelC> issue: SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging
21:02:07 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-11 - SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/11/edit .
21:02:25 <MichaelC> issue-11: relates to comment LC-2570 http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570
21:02:25 <trackbot> ISSUE-11 SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging notes added
21:03:36 <Loretta> There appears to be considerable overlap between SCR2 and SCR20. We have created an Issue (http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570) so that we can reconcile these techniques in our next round of updates.
21:05:05 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image? as amended
21:05:29 <jamesn> TOPIC: New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links 
21:07:41 <awk> Sorry, I need to leave early...
21:07:51 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:11:02 <MichaelC> close action-144
21:11:03 <trackbot> ACTION-144 Investigate a technique using dt, dl in the way recommended in LC 2540 and other ways closed
21:11:42 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links as proposed
21:20:40 <jamesn> zakim, who is making noise?
21:20:54 <Zakim> jamesn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (43%), David_MacDonald (5%)
21:21:19 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
21:21:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
21:22:32 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/REC-WCAG20-20081211/2571
21:29:46 <Zakim> -Mary_Utt
21:29:48 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:29:50 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
21:29:50 <Zakim> -??P13
21:29:51 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
21:29:51 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
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21:30:00 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:30:20 <MichaelC> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:30:31 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:30:33 <Zakim> Attendees were James_Nurthen, Mary_Utt, Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Marc_Johlic, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald
21:30:36 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
21:30:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
21:31:09 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
21:31:09 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
21:31:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: james to contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569 [1]
21:31:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-59-53
21:31:13 <MichaelC> zakim, bye
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