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15:02:03 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WEBID
15:02:03 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM already started
15:02:04 <trackbot> Meeting: WebID Incubator Group Teleconference
15:02:04 <trackbot> Date: 26 September 2011
15:02:35 <Zakim> - +49.874.aaaa
15:02:37 <Zakim> INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM has ended
15:02:37 <Zakim> Attendees were +49.874.aaaa
15:02:47 <Zakim> INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM has now started
15:02:54 <Zakim> +??P20
15:03:06 <domel> zakim, I am ??P20
15:03:07 <Zakim> + +49.874.aaaa
15:03:07 <Zakim> +domel; got it
15:03:26 <bergi_> Zakim, I am +49.874.aaaa
15:03:26 <Zakim> +bergi_; got it
15:05:05 <Zakim> + +1.510.931.aabb
15:05:20 <bblfish> Zakim, who is here?
15:05:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see domel, bergi_, +1.510.931.aabb
15:05:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, bergi_, domel, MacTed, danbri, bblfish, trackbot, elf-pavlik, Andrei[log], bergi
15:05:37 <bblfish> zakim, I am aabb
15:05:42 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
15:06:36 <bblfish> zakim, agenda?
15:06:36 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
15:07:02 <bblfish> agenda +"Chatting while waiting for people to join"
15:07:07 <bblfish> next agendum
15:07:46 <bblfish> the vocabulary we worked on with bergi_ is here http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/earl/
15:08:19 <bblfish> who is here but not on the phone?
15:08:55 <Zakim> + +1.781.273.aacc
15:09:05 <MacTed> Zakim, aacc is OpenLink_Software
15:09:05 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software; got it
15:09:09 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
15:09:09 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
15:09:12 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:09:12 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:09:46 <bblfish> Hi MacTed
15:10:30 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:10:30 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:11:01 <domel> would you like to htmlize it?
15:11:19 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:11:19 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:16:08 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:16:08 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:17:20 <bblfish> dome can you point me to the version you have?
15:17:21 <domel> http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/
15:19:08 <bblfish> ah yes
15:19:55 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:19:55 <Zakim> MacTed was not muted, MacTed
15:20:20 <bblfish> Coralie 
15:22:46 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:22:46 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:23:30 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:23:30 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:23:46 <bblfish> here http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/rsa.html
15:31:54 <bblfish> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert.n3> log:semantics :gorig .
15:32:12 <bblfish> <http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/cert.html> log:semanitcs :grnew .
15:33:13 <bblfish> log:semantics is defined http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/doc/Reach.html
15:33:33 <domel> I use http://www.rdflib.net/
15:36:58 <domel> I change thinks line add object properites, add labels etc
15:37:07 <bblfish> hyou have this name http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#:PGPCertificate
15:37:14 <bblfish> so you need to remove the :
15:38:23 <bblfish>  curl http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert.n3 | less
15:38:26 <domel> sorry for deleted spaces
15:38:48 <bblfish> then it says :PGPCertificate a owl:Class;
15:38:48 <bblfish>    rdfs:label "PGPCertificate";
15:38:50 <bblfish>    vs:term_status "unstable";
15:38:51 <bblfish>    rdfs:subClassOf :Certificate;
15:38:52 <bblfish>    owl:equivalentClass wot:PubKey;
15:38:53 <bblfish>    rdfs:comment "the class of PGP Certificates".  
15:39:03 <bblfish> the prefix @prefix : <cert#>
15:39:44 <domel> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/
15:40:20 <bblfish> $ cwm http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert --ntriples | grep PGPCertificate
15:40:21 <bblfish>     <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#PGPCertificate>     <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#Class> .
15:40:22 <bblfish>     <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#PGPCertificate>     <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#comment> "the class of PGP Certificates" .
15:40:24 <bblfish>     <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#PGPCertificate>     <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#subClassOf> <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#Certificate> .
15:40:25 <bblfish>     <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#PGPCertificate>     <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#equivalentClass> <http://xmlns.com/wot/0.1/PubKey> .
15:40:25 <bblfish>     <http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#PGPCertificate>     <http://www.w3.org/2003/06/sw-vocab-status/ns#term_status> "unstable" .
15:41:38 <bblfish> you don't want to show http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#:Key
15:41:43 <bblfish> you want cert:Key
15:41:47 <MacTed> a quick RDFa-to-nTriples transform -- http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/sparql?default-graph-uri=http%3A%2F%2Fii.uwb.edu.pl%2F~dtomaszuk%2Fwebid%2Frsa.html&query=DESCRIBE%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Flinkeddata.uriburner.com%2Fabout%2Fid%2Fhttp%2Fii.uwb.edu.pl%2F~dtomaszuk%2Fwebid%2Frsa.html%3E&output=text%2Fplain
15:43:05 <domel> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/
15:43:18 <MacTed> start here -- http://uriburner.com/
15:43:18 <MacTed> give it your RDFa URL ... when that produces a page, look down the bottom for "Raw Data in:" ... 
15:43:35 <bblfish> rapper -i rdfa http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/cert.html -o turtle
15:43:41 <bblfish> rapper is redland's tool
15:43:44 <domel> e.g. http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fii.uwb.edu.pl%2F~dtomaszuk%2Fwebid%2Fcert.html&format=pretty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&space-preserve=true
15:47:31 <bblfish> setting the base
15:49:14 <bblfish>  http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/
15:49:22 <bblfish> <http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/id/http/ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/
15:49:30 <domel> yes
15:49:49 <domel> lastest rapper support rdfa
15:50:08 <domel> it works for me
15:50:08 <bblfish> rapper -i rdfa http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/cert.html -o turtle
15:50:09 <bblfish> rapper: Parsing URI http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/cert.html with parser rdfa
15:50:10 <bblfish> rapper: Serializing with serializer turtle
15:50:11 <bblfish> rapper: Error - URI http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/cert.html - Resolving URI failed: Connection time-out
15:54:03 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/16
15:54:42 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/open
15:54:58 <bergi_> domel: add the parameter "--prefix=cert" to specgen. this should fix the problem with the class names
15:55:23 <domel> bergi: I do it
15:56:24 <domel> bergi: It is a problem because there are 2 onts references, if rsa and cert is in one file it will be not a problem
15:58:01 <domel> bblfish: I think good to update official version of spec (uml diagram and my rdf/xml examples)
15:59:38 <bblfish> here: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/40
16:01:11 <bblfish> are these still the latest ontologies http://ii.uwb.edu.pl/~dtomaszuk/webid/cert.owl ?
16:04:53 <Zakim> -MacTed
16:05:30 <Zakim> -bergi_
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16:06:08 <MacTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:06:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-webid-minutes.html MacTed
16:06:11 <MacTed> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:06:49 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/Mercurial
16:08:20 <bblfish> ah great the minutes have ben published this time
16:08:54 <domel> http://annevankesteren.nl/2010/08/w3c-mercurial ?
16:08:57 <bblfish> http://annevankesteren.nl/2010/08/w3c-mercurial
16:12:36 <Zakim> -domel
16:12:59 <domel> sorry, connection problem
16:13:21 <Zakim> -bblfish
16:13:22 <Zakim> INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM has ended
16:13:24 <Zakim> Attendees were +49.874.aaaa, domel, bergi_, +1.510.931.aabb, bblfish, +1.781.273.aacc, MacTed
16:13:53 <bblfish> ok, thanks a lot. this is coming along nicely
16:14:26 <MacTed> trackbot, end meeting
16:14:26 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:14:26 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:14:27 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:14:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-webid-minutes.html trackbot
16:14:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:14:28 <RRSAgent> I see no action items