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15:01:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
15:01:18 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:01:18 <trackbot> Date: 15 September 2011
15:01:30 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
15:01:31 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:01:41 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
15:01:45 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has now started
15:01:47 <Zakim> +Mike
15:02:11 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
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15:02:56 <Zakim> +Judy
15:03:24 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
15:04:34 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
15:05:21 <richardschwerdtfe> is zakim not working?
15:05:30 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:05:34 <MikeSmith> Topic: bug-triage subteam update
15:05:38 <richardschwerdtfe> there u go
15:05:40 <MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith 
15:06:08 <MikeSmith> MichaelC: working on two tasks: looking at a11y bugs and figuring out if they need to the -tf keyword
15:06:40 <MikeSmith> MichaelC: second task is going through remaining bugs and seeing if we missed any, and caught some
15:06:55 <MikeSmith> scribe: MichaelC 
15:07:08 <MichaelC> topic: Canvas sub-team
15:07:27 <MichaelC> rs: proposal sent, awaiting responses from browser manufacturers
15:07:54 <MichaelC> this is on changes for focus ring, and text baseline
15:08:17 <MichaelC> topic: Text alternatives sub-team
15:08:23 <MichaelC> jb: met this week for first time in several weeks
15:08:39 <MichaelC> discussed response in progress to Jonas on longdesc
15:09:05 <MichaelC> also discussed adding response to Matt, who updated his change proposal
15:09:19 <MichaelC> hope to send these out next week
15:09:33 <MichaelC> checked on some reopen requests and change proposals
15:09:52 <MichaelC> meta generator recirculated, no feedback, so plan to look at that next week
15:09:57 <MichaelC> then forward to full TF
15:10:22 <MichaelC> table summary proposal seems to have missing info, plan to ask Josh to add
15:10:30 <Zakim> +??P51
15:10:36 <MichaelC> figcaption, trying to gather info on how it's expected to be used in browsers
15:10:49 <MichaelC> and usability aspects related to length of the caption
15:11:02 <MichaelC> so will probably keep working on for several weeks
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15:11:28 <MichaelC> also discussed an item forwarded from bug triage group
15:11:34 <MichaelC> expect to clarify and take next steps
15:11:44 <JF> Q+
15:11:45 <MikeSmith> q?
15:11:59 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P51 is Steve_Faulkner
15:11:59 <Zakim> +Steve_Faulkner; got it
15:12:15 <MichaelC> jf: bug on generated content and AAPIs
15:12:34 <MichaelC> no consistent response
15:12:35 <MichaelC> q+
15:12:38 <MichaelC> ack j
15:12:43 <JF> ack JF
15:13:35 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
15:14:40 <MichaelC> mc: note relationship to PFWG review of CSS, which includes generated content module
15:14:45 <MichaelC> would like to coordinate the two pieces
15:14:50 <MichaelC> jf: will coordinate offline
15:14:56 <MichaelC> topic: Media sub-team
15:15:13 <MichaelC> jf: not much in past couple weeks, in holding pattern while some issues mature
15:15:33 <MichaelC> I will be attending Web & TV workshop next week so will see some of the principals to coordinate
15:15:42 <MichaelC> hope to reconvene in next couple weeks
15:16:19 <MichaelC> -> http://www.w3.org/2011/09/webtv/ Web and TV Workshop
15:16:44 <MichaelC> topic: ARIA mapping
15:16:54 <MichaelC> cs: nothing new lately
15:17:01 <MichaelC> plan to restart work next week
15:17:29 <MichaelC> sf: will be at TPAC, hope we can meet then as well
15:17:30 <MikeSmith> q?
15:17:33 <MichaelC> ack me
15:17:40 <MikeSmith> ack MichaelC 
15:17:48 <MichaelC> cs: yes, though let's start before then
15:18:53 <MichaelC> jf: think ARIA/AAPI mapping may also relate to generated content issue
15:19:00 <MichaelC> sf: please send bug reference
15:19:03 <MichaelC> jf: will do and follow up
15:19:09 <MichaelC> topic: Actions review
15:19:16 <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
15:19:33 <MichaelC> action-131?
15:19:33 <trackbot> ACTION-131 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to write whitepaper on ARIA features that seem similar to HTML features but aren't -- due 2011-08-04 -- OPEN
15:19:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/131
15:20:55 <MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Jul/0169.html
15:21:32 <MichaelC> rs: news to me...
15:21:53 <MichaelC> mc: looks like we made RS temporary assignee, but felt need for this on 28 July 2011
15:22:53 <Stevef> html5 and the myth of aria redundance http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2010/04/html5-and-the-myth-of-wai-aria-redundance/
15:23:03 <MichaelC> rs: trying to figure out...
15:23:27 <MichaelC> sf: above resource might be useful
15:24:15 <MichaelC> topic: New business
15:24:49 <MichaelC> no deadlines in immediate future from HTML WG
15:25:37 <MikeSmith> qq?
15:25:40 <MikeSmith> q?
15:26:27 <MichaelC> mc: note a deadline to push back on bug priority assignments
15:27:04 <MichaelC> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0315.html Timeline
15:27:24 <MichaelC> that was 2 September 2011
15:28:16 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
15:28:58 <MichaelC> ms: this might be an extendable deadline
15:29:17 <MichaelC> mc: not sure how many reprioritizations we'd request, but fell behind on checking on that
15:29:27 <MichaelC> because still triaging in bugs
15:29:39 <MichaelC> ms: don't think would affect timeline much
15:29:54 <MichaelC> timeline was based on assumption on more bugs submitted than actually were
15:30:13 <MichaelC> will bring up schedule in HTML call today
15:30:24 <MichaelC> topic: Next meeting
15:30:50 <MichaelC> ms: scribe volunteer?
15:31:01 <MichaelC> sf: will volunteer if present
15:31:04 <Zakim> -Steve_Faulkner
15:31:05 <MichaelC> rs: will serve as backup
15:31:06 <Zakim> -Mike
15:31:08 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
15:31:10 <Zakim> -Judy
15:31:11 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
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15:34:10 <MichaelC> zakim, drop rich
15:34:11 <Zakim> Rich_Schwerdtfeger is being disconnected
15:34:16 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended
15:34:23 <Zakim> Attendees were Mike, John_Foliot, Judy, Michael_Cooper, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Steve_Faulkner, Cynthia_Shelly
15:34:28 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
15:34:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/15-html-a11y-minutes.html MichaelC
15:35:34 <MichaelC> chair: Mike_Smith
15:35:55 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -final
15:36:56 <MichaelC> regrets: Léonie_Watson, Janina_Sajka, Laura_Carlson
15:37:01 <MichaelC> trackbot, end meeting
15:37:01 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:37:02 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:37:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:37:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/15-html-a11y-minutes.html trackbot
15:37:03 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> I see no action items