IRC log of wai-wcag on 2011-09-08

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 08 September 2011
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+Loretta
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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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+??P6
20:04:19 [adam]
zakim, P6 is adam_solomon
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sorry, adam, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'
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zakim, ??P6 is adam_solomon
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+adam_solomon; got it
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+Michael_Cooper
20:04:49 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:04:49 [Zakim]
On the phone I see David_MacDonald, +1.774.316.aaaa, +1.978.443.aabb, +1.510.864.aacc, Loretta, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, adam_solomon, Michael_Cooper
20:05:01 [jamesn]
zakim, aacc is James_Nurthen
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+James_Nurthen; got it
20:05:16 [MichaelC]
zakim, aaaa is Mary_Utt
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+Mary_Utt; got it
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+ +1.217.840.aadd
20:05:50 [MichaelC]
zakim, aabb is Kathy_Wahlbin
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+Kathy_Wahlbin; got it
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zakim, aadd is Jon_Gunderson
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+Jon_Gunderson; got it
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+ +1.727.391.aaee
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zakim, aaee is Marc_Johlic
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+Marc_Johlic; got it
20:25:16 [David]
scribe: David
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+Michael_Cooper.a
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20:28:11 [Loretta]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110908misc/
20:28:15 [David]
Topic: Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support
20:29:09 [Zakim]
+Katie_Haritos-Shea
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-Michael_Cooper
20:31:20 [AWK]
http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/swffocus
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(that's the new version)
20:35:34 [David]
Action: Andrew to update the technique and bring back to the group... new code, and UA notes
20:35:34 [trackbot]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Andrew
20:35:34 [trackbot]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. akirkpat2, alahart)
20:36:03 [David]
Action: akirkpat2 to update the technique and bring back to the group... new code, and UA notes
20:36:03 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-145 - Update the technique and bring back to the group... new code, and UA notes [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2011-09-15].
20:36:47 [David]
Resolution: leave open LC-2533
20:37:49 [David]
Topic: LC-2545 for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group
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brb
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back now
20:56:12 [Zakim]
-James_Nurthen
20:57:39 [David]
action: Gregg to work LC-2545 into a technique including a visual graphic that shows how hue can be used to distinguish a bar chart, without pattern...
20:57:40 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-146 - Work LC-2545 into a technique including a visual graphic that shows how hue can be used to distinguish a bar chart, without pattern... [on Gregg Vanderheiden - due 2011-09-15].
20:58:28 [David]
Topic: LC-2546: Embedded Flash content
21:07:30 [MichaelC]
action: cooper to draft introductory material for techniques about 1) (alternate) mechanisms must conform themselves; 2) examples may not mean all SC; 3) "must" in tech applies to technique, not SC
21:07:30 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-147 - Draft introductory material for techniques about 1) (alternate) mechanisms must conform themselves; 2) examples may not mean all SC; 3) "must" in tech applies to technique, not SC [on Michael Cooper - due 2011-09-15].
21:10:22 [David]
Resolution: Send comment LC-2546 back... remove parentheses in the recommended response... Michael Draft introductory material for techniques about 1) (alternate) mechanisms must conform themselves; 2) examples may not mean all SC; 3) "must" in tech applies to technique, not SC
21:10:51 [David]
topic: Issue LC-2549: G140, Example 2
21:22:41 [David]
action: Andrew to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:22:41 [trackbot]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Andrew
21:22:41 [trackbot]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. akirkpat2, alahart)
21:23:10 [David]
Action: akirkpat2, Andrew to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:23:10 [trackbot]
Sorry, couldn't find user - akirkpat2,
21:23:50 [David]
Action: akirkpat2 to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:24:11 [David]
Action: akirkpat2, Andrew to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
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Sorry, couldn't find user - akirkpat2,
21:24:20 [Zakim]
-adam_solomon
21:24:31 [David]
Action: akirkpat2 to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:24:32 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-148 - Research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually) [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2011-09-15].
21:24:42 [MichaelC]
drop action 6
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drop action 7
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drop action 8
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rrsagent, drop action 8
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rrsagent, drop action 7
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rrsagent, drop action 6
21:25:14 [David]
Resolution: leave 2549 open with Andrew researching AT
21:25:55 [David]
Topic: Issue LC-2552: Appendix A: Minor additional pointer
21:27:28 [David]
Resolution: accept Issue LC-2552: Appendix A: Minor additional pointer as proposed
21:27:49 [David]
Topic: Issue LC-2553: PDF6 Technique Title
21:28:58 [David]
Resolution: Accept LC-2553 as amended new title for PDF6 will be "Using table elements for table markup in PDF Documents"
21:29:51 [David]
Topic: Issue LC-2554: Objectionable phrasing
21:35:50 [David]
Resolution: Andrew will have the title of the PDF guidelines title changed to "PDF and Accessibility", Michael to change link text in techniques.
21:36:56 [David]
Action: akirkpat2 to correct link to make sure the current link works, and change title of document to "PDF and Accessibility"
21:36:57 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-149 - Correct link to make sure the current link works, and change title of document to "PDF and Accessibility" [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2011-09-15].
21:38:59 [Zakim]
-Jon_Gunderson
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-Michael_Cooper.a
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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-Mary_Utt
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-Kathy_Wahlbin
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-Loretta
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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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-David_MacDonald
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-Marc_Johlic
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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Attendees were David_MacDonald, +1.774.316.aaaa, +1.978.443.aabb, +1.510.864.aacc, Loretta, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, adam_solomon, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Mary_Utt,
21:39:41 [Zakim]
... +1.217.840.aadd, Kathy_Wahlbin, Jon_Gunderson, +1.727.391.aaee, Marc_Johlic, Katie_Haritos-Shea