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20:02:04 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
20:02:04 <trackbot> Date: 08 September 2011
20:02:36 <Zakim> +Loretta
20:03:39 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:03:57 <Zakim> +??P6
20:04:19 <adam> zakim, P6 is adam_solomon
20:04:19 <Zakim> sorry, adam, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'
20:04:32 <adam> zakim, ??P6 is adam_solomon
20:04:32 <Zakim> +adam_solomon; got it
20:04:45 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
20:04:49 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:04:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, +1.774.316.aaaa, +1.978.443.aabb, +1.510.864.aacc, Loretta, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, adam_solomon, Michael_Cooper
20:05:01 <jamesn> zakim, aacc is James_Nurthen
20:05:01 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen; got it
20:05:16 <MichaelC> zakim, aaaa is Mary_Utt
20:05:16 <Zakim> +Mary_Utt; got it
20:05:37 <Zakim> + +1.217.840.aadd
20:05:50 <MichaelC> zakim, aabb is Kathy_Wahlbin
20:05:50 <Zakim> +Kathy_Wahlbin; got it
20:05:58 <MichaelC> zakim, aadd is Jon_Gunderson
20:05:58 <Zakim> +Jon_Gunderson; got it
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20:11:51 <Zakim> + +1.727.391.aaee
20:12:31 <marcjohlic> zakim, aaee is Marc_Johlic
20:12:31 <Zakim> +Marc_Johlic; got it
20:25:16 <David> scribe: David
20:25:56 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper.a
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20:28:11 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110908misc/
20:28:15 <David> Topic:  Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support
20:29:09 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:30:11 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
20:31:20 <AWK> http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/swffocus
20:31:28 <AWK> (that's the new version)
20:35:34 <David> Action: Andrew to update the technique and bring back to the group... new code, and UA notes
20:35:34 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Andrew
20:35:34 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. akirkpat2, alahart)
20:36:03 <David> Action: akirkpat2 to update the technique and bring back to the group... new code, and UA notes
20:36:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-145 - Update the technique and bring back to the group... new code, and UA notes [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2011-09-15].
20:36:47 <David> Resolution: leave open LC-2533
20:37:49 <David> Topic: LC-2545 for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group
20:40:52 <AWK> brb
20:43:13 <AWK> back now
20:56:12 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
20:57:39 <David> action: Gregg to work LC-2545 into a technique including a visual graphic that shows how hue can be used to distinguish a bar chart, without pattern...
20:57:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-146 - Work LC-2545 into a technique including a visual graphic that shows how hue can be used to distinguish a bar chart, without pattern... [on Gregg Vanderheiden - due 2011-09-15].
20:58:28 <David> Topic: LC-2546: Embedded Flash content
21:07:30 <MichaelC> action: cooper to draft introductory material for techniques about 1) (alternate) mechanisms must conform themselves; 2) examples may not mean all SC; 3) "must" in tech applies to technique, not SC
21:07:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-147 - Draft introductory material for techniques about 1) (alternate) mechanisms must conform themselves; 2) examples may not mean all SC; 3) "must" in tech applies to technique, not SC [on Michael Cooper - due 2011-09-15].
21:10:22 <David> Resolution: Send comment LC-2546 back... remove parentheses in the recommended response... Michael Draft introductory material for techniques about 1) (alternate) mechanisms must conform themselves; 2) examples may not mean all SC; 3) "must" in tech applies to technique, not SC  
21:10:51 <David> topic: Issue LC-2549: G140, Example 2
21:22:41 <David> action: Andrew to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:22:41 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Andrew
21:22:41 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. akirkpat2, alahart)
21:23:10 <David> Action: akirkpat2, Andrew to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:23:10 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - akirkpat2,
21:23:50 <David> 	Action: akirkpat2 to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:24:11 <David> Action: akirkpat2, Andrew to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:24:12 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - akirkpat2,
21:24:20 <Zakim> -adam_solomon
21:24:31 <David> Action: akirkpat2 to research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually)
21:24:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-148 - Research LC-2549 to see if other AT will provide alternate presentation of tagged pdf (visually) [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2011-09-15].
21:24:42 <MichaelC> drop action 6
21:24:44 <MichaelC> drop action 7
21:24:46 <MichaelC> drop action 8
21:24:54 <MichaelC> rrsagent, drop action 8
21:24:58 <MichaelC> rrsagent, drop action 7
21:25:01 <MichaelC> rrsagent, drop action 6
21:25:14 <David> Resolution: leave 2549 open with Andrew researching AT
21:25:55 <David> Topic: Issue LC-2552: Appendix A: Minor additional pointer
21:27:28 <David> Resolution: accept Issue LC-2552: Appendix A: Minor additional pointer as proposed
21:27:49 <David> Topic: Issue LC-2553: PDF6 Technique Title
21:28:58 <David> Resolution: Accept LC-2553 as amended new title for PDF6 will be "Using table elements for table markup in PDF Documents"
21:29:51 <David> Topic: Issue LC-2554: Objectionable phrasing
21:35:50 <David> Resolution: Andrew will have the title of the PDF guidelines title changed to "PDF and Accessibility", Michael to change link text in techniques.
21:36:56 <David> Action: akirkpat2 to correct link to make sure the current link works, and change title of document to "PDF and Accessibility"
21:36:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-149 - Correct link to make sure the current link works, and change title of document to "PDF and Accessibility" [on Andrew Kirkpatrick - due 2011-09-15].
21:38:59 <Zakim> -Jon_Gunderson
21:39:05 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper.a
21:39:06 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:39:14 <Zakim> -Mary_Utt
21:39:16 <Zakim> -Kathy_Wahlbin
21:39:24 <Zakim> -Loretta
21:39:28 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:39:30 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
21:39:35 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
21:39:36 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:39:38 <Zakim> Attendees were David_MacDonald, +1.774.316.aaaa, +1.978.443.aabb, +1.510.864.aacc, Loretta, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, adam_solomon, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Mary_Utt,
21:39:41 <Zakim> ... +1.217.840.aadd, Kathy_Wahlbin, Jon_Gunderson, +1.727.391.aaee, Marc_Johlic, Katie_Haritos-Shea