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16:01:41 Zakim, this will be
16:01:41 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
16:01:42 Meeting: HTML Speech Incubator Group Teleconference
16:01:42 Date: 08 September 2011
16:02:10 zakim, who is here?
16:02:26 sorry, ddahl, I don't know what conference this is
16:02:40 On IRC I see RRSAgent, DanD, ddahl, Michael_Bodell, smaug, trackbot
16:02:46 zakim, conferences?
16:02:56 I don't understand your question, ddahl.
16:03:06 Zakim, nick smaug is Olli_Pettay
16:03:06 sorry, smaug, I do not see a party named 'Olli_Pettay'
16:03:26 Zakim, who's on the call
16:03:26 I don't understand 'who's on the call', smaug
16:03:37 zakim, list conferences
16:03:42 I see XML_XSLWG()12:00PM, UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM, SW_(PROV)11:00AM, T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM, WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM, SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM, Styl_XSL-FO-()11:00AM,
16:03:49 ... HTML_WG()12:00PM, Team_(PR)11:30AM active
16:03:51 also scheduled at this time is I18N_WG(MLW)11:00AM
16:04:19 zakim, this will be INC_(HTMLSPEECH)
16:04:21 ok, ddahl, I see INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM already started
16:04:40 zakim, who is here?
16:04:53 On the phone I see ??P35, Michael_Bodell, +40.33.281.aaaa, Debbie_Dahl
16:05:09 On IRC I see RRSAgent, DanD, ddahl, Michael_Bodell, smaug, trackbot
16:05:09 Zakim, ??P35 is Olli_Pettay
16:05:17 +Olli_Pettay; got it
16:05:18 (I think)
16:05:25 Zakim, nick smaug is Olli_Pettay
16:05:33 ok, smaug, I now associate you with Olli_Pettay
16:06:00 +[Microsoft]
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16:07:02 discussion of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Sep/att-0008/speechwepapi.html
16:07:20 Olli's comments are http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Sep/0009.html
16:10:40 +Michael_Johnston
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16:11:11 Question about if value of checkbox makes sense => probably want to change the checked status
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16:14:52 Olli: consider permission denied event in the case that you have a reco element and don't have permission
16:16:29 michael: the is an isAuthorized method or state variable
16:16:46 Olli: Yes, but would also need an event when that state variable changes
16:19:36 BRB 5 mins
16:19:57 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Sep/att-0008/speechwepapi.html
16:20:07 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Sep/0009.html
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16:21:30 DanD: Concerns about permissions in the non-traditional browser, particularly if you have multiple reco at once
16:23:19 Olli: Add authorization state variable to SpeechInputRequest
16:27:28 Olli: Michael should remove "=FunctionOnly" to allow objects in the section 4 definition
16:29:35 back
16:29:49 Michael: In the reco binding, change should to MUST and describe better the bindings (possibly excluding some elements if necessary, or describing them better if it isn't just value)
16:31:28 Topic: Section 7
16:31:44 Olli: Change addGrammarName with addGrammarWithName
16:32:51 Olli: Add diableGrammarByName
16:33:50 DanD: Does this set of things match the protocol?
16:33:55 Robert: We don't know yet
16:35:04 Robert: Do we need a grammar name?
16:35:12 Debbie: The name is for builtins
16:35:31 Robert: Builtin can be URI, and may need URI parameters
16:36:23 Charles: What about SRGS strings
16:36:39 Michael: You can sort of do that, with data: URI, but there are escaping issues
16:38:07 Olli: Can construct it by the JS or via an XMLHTTPRequest and pass that in... but could be data:
16:38:45 Robert: It is hard to describe grammars, and if you do that you can go to the extra trouble of data: work
16:39:12 Charles: You often want to include the grammar in the page for documentation/understanding/easier to pass
16:40:05 Debbie: We could have a grammar object complete with methods like add rule, but I think that would be too complexity
16:46:52 Charles: Could have a function like addGrammarByElementId
16:47:07 Olli: But that isn't so easy in HTML, no namespace and mixed HTML document
16:47:27 Robert: I think we'd be safer just going with URI, and people can create the data URI
16:48:06 resolution => remove addGrammarByName and other name
16:48:42 Charles: But beef up the description of addGrammar to mention builtins by uri
16:50:16 methods names should use camelCase consistently
16:55:19 Debbie: On 7, we could make the parameters method into attribute values
16:57:50 Glen: We should have error or output if you try to set something during the reco
16:58:07 Michael: We've agreed that all of these only effect the *next* reco
16:58:11 Glen: We should document that
16:59:10 resolution => change teh set methods in section 7 to attributes
17:00:04 - +40.33.281.aaaa
17:00:51 Michael: This means the default will be set so if the attribute is unmodified by author, they can inspect it
17:01:28 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Aug/att-0011/ASRPropertiesAPI.html
17:01:30 sorry, I have to go to another meeting. one of those days...
17:01:34 -[Microsoft]
17:03:52 Debbie: What about recognizer.profile, recognizer.gender, recognizer.age?
17:06:56 resolution => add comment in document that user specific information would be set through generic set parameter functionality
17:07:57 Michael: What is the default language, if language is unset?
17:09:02 Debbie: There is a hierachy of possibilities we discussed before ending with the language of the page.
17:10:13 Michael: endpointdetection shoudl default to true, right?
17:10:17 Debbie: I'd think so
17:11:22 Michael: finalizebeforeend should be true too
17:11:43 Debbie: I think so. It might be more expensive, but there are a lot of use cases for that, and I think that is what users would like
17:12:48 Debbie: interimresults is the same use case
17:12:55 Michael: Probably should be true too
17:13:05 Debbie: yep, probably true
17:14:55 Debbie: setinterimresultsfreq doesn't have a default, maybe 500 ms default?
17:15:09 Charles: doesn't it depend on the technology and grammars and other things
17:15:20 Michael: It is just a hint, the service can override it
17:20:04 discussion of interimresults and interimresultsfrequency... merge them, have only one, have some settings, don't have a frequency
17:26:44 decision => merge interimresults and interimresultsfreq, one thing, an integer, 0 means off, other values are a hint that specifies the approx milliseconds between interim results, default is 0
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17:28:30 -Debbie_Dahl
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17:35:02 INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM has ended
17:35:06 Attendees were Michael_Bodell, +40.33.281.aaaa, Debbie_Dahl, Olli_Pettay, [Microsoft], Michael_Johnston, +1.408.359.aabb, Charles_Hemphill
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