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16:03:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:03:38 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:03:38 <trackbot> Date: 08 September 2011
16:03:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:03:44 <mjs> thanks adrianba!
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16:04:09 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:04:10 <dsinger_> zakim, mute dsinger
16:04:10 <Zakim> dsinger should now be muted
16:04:12 <Zakim> +[HP]
16:04:19 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:04:24 <dpenkler> zakim, hp has me
16:04:27 <Zakim> +dpenkler; got it
16:04:29 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
16:04:35 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
16:04:39 <Zakim> +??P49
16:04:51 <janina> zakim, ??P49 is Janina
16:04:51 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:05:02 <eliot> zakim, microsoft has me
16:05:03 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
16:05:15 <Zakim> +eliot; got it
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16:07:52 <hober> ScribeNick: hober
16:08:30 <hober> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, September 8
16:08:34 <hober> mjs: there are none
16:08:47 <hober> topic: new issues this week
16:08:49 <mjs> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
16:08:51 <pimpbot> Title: Bug List (at w3.org)
16:08:56 <hober> mjs: there are none, but two new tracker requests
16:09:30 <hober> mjs: actually, they are issues
16:09:38 <hober> topic: items closed last week
16:09:53 <hober> ISSUE-165: rel-pingback, Call for Consensus closed Aug 24
16:09:54 <trackbot> ISSUE-165 Drop rel=pingback notes added
16:09:54 <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Aug/0321.html
16:09:55 <pimpbot> Title: CfC: Close ISSUE-165: rel-pingback by Amicable Resolution from Sam Ruby on 2011-08-17 (public-html@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
16:10:08 <adrianba> q+ to mention issue-166 call for counter proposals closed aug 31
16:10:12 <hober> topic: items closing this week
16:10:20 <mjs> q+
16:10:23 <mjs> er
16:10:26 <mjs> ack adrianba
16:10:26 <Zakim> adrianba, you wanted to mention issue-166 call for counter proposals closed aug 31
16:10:28 <mjs> q- mjs
16:10:57 <hober> adrianba: 166 also closed
16:10:57 <mjs> ack
16:11:06 <Zakim> -dsinger
16:11:06 <hober> mjs: missed this in putting agenda together, will cover next week
16:11:14 <hober> mjs: no items closing this week
16:11:20 <hober> topic: items closing next week
16:11:24 <hober> mjs: there are none
16:11:24 <Zakim> +dsinger
16:11:28 <hober> topic: new calls this week
16:11:37 <hober> mjs: there are 4, all due aug 8
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16:12:17 <hober> ISSUE-170 rel-uri-valid, ISSUE-171 microdata-rdf, ISSUE-172 restore-rb, ISSUE-173 split-appcache
16:12:22 <hober> topic: new surveys this week
16:12:27 <hober> mjs: there are none
16:12:34 <hober> topic: decisions this week
16:12:34 <hober> mjs: there are none
16:12:44 <hober> topic: task force reports
16:13:17 <hober> topic: accessibility task force
16:13:57 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14087] Return sections of HTML5 that were removed outside of the W3C <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0305.html>
16:13:59 <hober> janina: tf is busy looking at bugs marked a11ytf & looking through rest to see if any more need to be tagged
16:14:26 <hober> janina: about 70% of the way through looking at things not yet tf-tagged
16:14:53 <hober> janina: there are around 90 tf-tagged bugs
16:15:17 <hober> janina: rich is continuing working on his canvas cp
16:15:28 <hober> janina: about a week or two away from bringing to wg
16:15:40 <hober> janina: he's getting feedback on the cp from browser vendors
16:15:54 <hober> janina: text subteam is looking at things they want reconsidered
16:16:02 <hober> janina: longdesc, figcaption, etc.
16:16:22 <hober> janina: work slowed at end of aug due to holidays etc.
16:16:56 <hober> janina: question about the last call bug from association for american publishers re: longdesc=""
16:17:24 <hober> janina: would like to attach their work as appendix to the longdesc="" proposal
16:17:39 <hober> mjs: yes, folding that into the ISSUE-30 cp is the right thing to do
16:17:55 <hober> mjs: the new bug will likely be marked as a duplicate of the old ISSUE-30 bug
16:18:42 <hober> janina: spent a lot of time on this morning's a11y call on generated content & a11y
16:19:12 <hober> janina: might be html related, might be css related
16:21:40 <hober> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13368
16:21:41 <pimpbot> 1113368: contributor, P3, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, 13The non-normative part says "throws an INVALID_STATE_ERR" but the normative part says "must return", not mentioning any exceptions.
16:22:39 <hober> topic: other business
16:22:56 <hober> mjs: none
16:23:02 <hober> topic: scribe for next meeting
16:23:36 <hober> mjs: hober will scribe
16:23:42 <hober> topic: adjournment
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16:24:33 <hober> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:24:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-html-wg-minutes.html hober
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16:31:32 <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
16:31:33 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:31:35 <Zakim> Attendees were dsinger, hober, Radhika_Roy, +1.415.595.aaaa, dpenkler, adrianba, Janina, eliot
16:44:03 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14088] New: chapters example is invalid (.00 should be .000) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0306.html> 4** [Bug 14088] chapters example is invalid (.00 should be .000) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0307.html> 4** [Bug 14087] Return sections of HTML5 that were removed outside of the W3C <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0308.htm
16:54:02 <pimpbot> planet: Rob Hawkes: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, September 8th 2011 <11http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/09/mozilla-hacks-weekly-september-8th-2011/>
17:46:16 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14089] New: Caller on form doesn't appear to be supported in Opera/Mozilla/WebKit. Maybe it should be dropped. (Getter is supported though.) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0311.html>
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18:16:23 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12868] Allow placeholder for color and date+ types <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0312.html>
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18:46:31 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14089] Caller on form doesn't appear to be supported in Opera/Mozilla/WebKit. Maybe it should be dropped. (Getter is supported though.) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0313.html>
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19:18:07 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14090] New: HTMLPreElement width attribute (obsolete) should be a long instead of an unsigned long <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0315.html> 4** [Bug 14090] HTMLPreElement width attribute (obsolete) should be a long instead of an unsigned long <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0316.html> 4** [Bug 14087] Return sections of HTML5 that were removed outside of the W3C <
19:48:19 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14091] New: There appear to be no dash or dotted line styles available. Please add a dash array options to the context. Something like: context.dashArray [ = value ] where value would be a list like this "4 2" where the first defines the dash length and the secon <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0318.html> 4** [Bug 14087] Return sections of HTML5 that were removed outside of the W3C <11http://lists.w3.org
20:18:54 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14087] Return sections of HTML5 that were removed outside of the W3C <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0319.html>
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20:50:36 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14092] New: I don't think the phrase "bubbling event listeners" has any real meaning. Would't non-capturing event listener be better here? Handlers can be invoked during the bubbling or at_target phases, right? <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0324.html> 4** [Bug 12289] <video> suspend event "Dispatched when..." is incorrect <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0321.html> 
21:00:31 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * f32c4f6fb345 r6543 10/ (index complete.html source): 
21:00:31 <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Make 'suspend' fire when the media is loaded.
21:00:31 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12595
21:00:32 <pimpbot> 1112595: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13<video> Fire suspend event when/if entire resource is loaded
21:10:59 <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make 'suspend' fire when the media is loaded. (whatwg r6544) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0012.html>
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21:21:11 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14087] Return sections of HTML5 that were removed outside of the W3C <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0325.html>
21:52:50 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12608] <video> define exact order and state during the last progress event <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0327.html> 4** [Bug 12595] <video> Fire suspend event when/if entire resource is loaded <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0326.html>
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22:00:26 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 5db4591091dd r6544 10/ (index complete.html source): 
22:00:26 <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (1) Make networkState changes have better-defined order relative to 'suspend' and 'progress' events.
22:00:26 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12608
22:00:27 <pimpbot> 1112608: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13<video> define exact order and state during the last progress event
22:11:15 <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make networkState changes have better-defined order relative to 'suspend' and 'progress' events. (whatwg r6545) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0013.html>
22:15:24 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * d979f9810515 r6545 10/ (index complete.html source): [e] (0) markup error in previous checkin
22:15:24 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 4cd6e5593da1 r6546 10/ (index complete.html source): [e] (0) Point out that 'pre' might be a better solution than 'code' for authors who used 'xmp'.
22:23:23 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12608] <video> define exact order and state during the last progress event <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0328.html>
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22:41:23 <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Point out that 'pre' might be a better solution than 'code' for authors who used 'xmp'. (whatwg r6547) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0014.html>
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