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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

08 Sep 2011

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Attendees

Present
+1.202.690.aaaa, +1.703.607.aabb, +1.267.481.aacc, davidwood, Sandro, Cory, BartvanLeeuwen, +1.202.208.aadd, gt, olyerickson, mhausenblas
Regrets
Chair
gt
Scribe
bhyland

Contents


tracbot, start telecon

<gt> trackbot, start telecon

<gatemezi> hi, all!!

<trackbot> Date: 08 September 2011

zakim davidwood is me

<scribe> scribe: bhyland

<MartinKaltenboeck> Calling via skype - do not know my out calluing number?

<bkaempgen> bkaempgen is connected through skype

<sandro> MartinKaltenboeck, bkaempgen I don't think skype transmits caller-id anyway.

<bkaempgen> sometimes it takes time so that changes get through in SMW

bkaempgen: re: semantic mediawiki annotations, there may be a lag with annotations being reflected.

<MartinKaltenboeck> ok, thanks sandro!

<gt> PROPOSAL: to accept 8-18 minutes -

+1

<mhausenblas> +1

<gatemezi> +1

<gt> +1

minutes accepted for 18-Aug-2011

<olyerickson> +1

<MartinKaltenboeck> +1

<luisbermudez> +1

<bkaempgen> You may need to edit/refresh Mainpage to have annotations being updated in the table.

<olyerickson> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.09.01

+1

<mhausenblas> +1

<BartvanLeeuwen> +1

proposal to accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.09.01

<gatemezi> +1

minutes accepted

<bkaempgen> baempgen should be muted

yes

<Cory-c> Perhaps some time today one of the w3c staff could speak a bit about the W3C Workshop on Data and Services Integration http://www.w3.org/2011/10/integration-workshop/cfp.html

<olyerickson> the system is muting me arrgh]

<BartvanLeeuwen> +q

ISWC

no comments.

BartvanLeeuwen: Would like to present at Amsterdam data initiative (breakfast meeting), on Linked Data.

Advice is simply to state you're a member of this group and present your experiences as a member of the GLD WG.

Cory-c: Discussed vocab + NIEM. Active effort to produce that standard. Anyone have NIEM related info in sem web form?

<ZacharyWhitley> +q

NIEM and Linked Data

Recent training event in Philly, PA, see http://www.iir.com/registration/niemtraining/

<gt> cory-c: NIEM is a US Gov sponsored XSD centric effort, somewhat like OASIS UBL - see niem.gov

Focused on first responders and other domains, used extensively by US Government, specifically Homeland Security. More info on niem.org

<olyerickson> For more info on NIEM: http://www.niem.gov/

Over 500 people from federal, state & local gov't attended recent. A lot of energy around it. Technology is primarily focused on XML & XML schema. Controlled vocab approach for common elements, e..g, person, location, etc.

Cory-c: NIEM PMO wanted NIEM to be more international standards aware. They sponsored effort to create UML model, then map to JSON, RDF, others. Standards effort is to create NIEM community & support international standards.

<gt> cory-c: information sharing environment - see http://www.ise.gov/ - and the OMG - see http://gov.omg.org/ - are creating a UML profile for NIEM

December 2011 deadline for RFP.

<gt> ACTION: george to follow up with bhyland, ChrisMusialek and cory-c regarding NIEM interaction with US Data.gov PMO [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-6 - Follow up with bhyland, ChrisMusialek and cory-c regarding NIEM interaction with US Data.gov PMO [on George Thomas - due 2011-09-15].

Cory-c asked anyone interested in helping speak to him.

Zach: Ralph Hodgson from TopQuadrant is porting NIEM to OWL.

<ZacharyWhitley> -q

Mentioned: TopQuadrant is doing work with Dutch Dept of Justice (Immigration) ...

<cgueret> yep

Announcement: Open Government Data Camp 2011, call for participation is out, see http://ogdcamp.org/cfp/

<bkaempgen> bkaempgen has rejoined

<MartinKaltenboeck> Registration is open too: http://ogdcamp.org/register/

Open Government Data Camp 2011

MartinKaltenboeck: Call for lightening talks (10 min) on best practices, linked data cookbook, etc.

coming out next week.

please participate.

Next F2F in DERI, Galway Ireland to be held Wed & Thur 25-26 January 2012.

We close the poll officially now.

We had 21 participants indicate their preference.

<BartvanLeeuwen> +1

<gatemezi> +1

<bkaempgen> +1

<cgueret> +1

Mhausenblas: First round of free RDF triples on him on Friday, after F2F.

<MartinKaltenboeck> +1

<cgueret> +1 :)

<BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Resolved: WG confirms second F2F at DERI Galway, 25-26 July 2012

<cgueret> July ?

doh!

Resolved: WG confirms second F2F at DERI Galway, 25-26 Jan 2012

<gatemezi> noo..maybe in July it will be at Eurecom, :-)

deliverables

<BartvanLeeuwen> :)

<gatemezi> it is the same. :-)

<gatemezi> actually, concerning ComDir, I don't know what next

<gatemezi> after the requirements proposed

Community Directory. No progress in last week.

<sandro> (sound breaking up a lot)

<scribe> ACTION: Bhyland to send out email to ask people to fill in company info & start trying to use deployment form to see how usability & data shapes up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-7 - Send out email to ask people to fill in company info & start trying to use deployment form to see how usability & data shapes up. [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-09-15].

<MartinKaltenboeck> bhyland: can you please provide link to the Community Directory prototype?

Standard Vocabs.

<gt> http://directory.3roundstones.net/

<MartinKaltenboeck> many thanks gt!

olyerickson: Plans to list some use cases they are considering to foster discussion. Would like guidance on how to best foster discussion.

Community Directory prototype may be found at http://directory.3roundstones.net/

<gt> has this GLD been republished or not...

<gt> who/what/where is the *authoritative/original* publication...

olyerickson: The issue he would like to discuss/iterate has to do with provenance of government or agent produced data. What country is this from, what does data represent?

<bkaempgen> +q

See John Erickson's email:

John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Catralog vocab question: Indicating whether "government" dataset has "official" status

Date: September 6, 2011 7:59:42 PM EDT

To: Martin Alvarez-Espinar <mlvarez@w3.org>

Cc: W3C public GLD WG WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>

<Cory-c> #bhyland, does or can the directory list data sources?

olyerickson: Agreed to continue discussion on list and provide some further specifics on use cases.

bkaempgen: Asked if this has to do with provenance or specifically a place that specifies where a given dataset is coming from?

olyerickson: More specific than provenance. We are looking to specify what a catalog represents. For example, if a gov't data set has been "officially sanctioned" by a gov't agency. Consumers should be able to identify whether this came from a specific agency or department … We need a status indicator.

Details on olyerickson's question are in:

John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>

Subject: Catralog vocab question: Indicating whether "government" dataset has "official" status

Date: September 6, 2011 3:27:54 PM EDT

To: W3C public GLD WG WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>

<bkaempgen> +q

@cory-c - RE: Community Directory - are you asking if you can get at the underlying triples? If so, yes, absolutely. I can discuss offline if you wish. Callimachus is about creating & publishing RDF.

Cube Vocab

See: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Statistical_Cube_Data. There were no minutes captured from the break out call.

<bkaempgen> I will have a look at it

Bkaempgen: Asked if the protocol is to capture the chat from breakout groups?

gt: Asked if WG can use W3C telecon infrastructure for calls & capturing what was discussed.

Sandro: Yes, absolutely. He will get it to us.

<sandro> Setting up a Teleconference

<gt> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Statistical_Cube_Data

<bkaempgen> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.22

<gt> http://wiki.planet-data.eu/web/Datasets

<gt> ACTION: to refactor some HHS CQLD GLD using QB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-8 - Refactor some HHS CQLD GLD using QB [on Tope Omitola - due 2011-09-15].

US Gov't subdomains.

gt: Wanted to put a plug in for data.gov.uk sector approach...

<gt> not data.health.gov - rather health.data.gov - {sector}.data.gov - environ.data.gov?

chrismusialek: said that people think of data of data vis a vis the sector first.

<olyerickson> so... what can't there be BOTH?

bhyland: recap from last week discussed opendata.epa.gov as subdomain. Consensus was data.epa.gov or more generically data.{agency}.gov

<olyerickson> data.energy.gov and energy.data.gov could resolve to the same place... (blasphemy I know)

<olyerickson> ...but there should be one canonical URI

ChrisMusialek: People think about things topically, not organizationally.

<olyerickson> Need to differentiate between URI form vs. various URLs that will "get there..."

+1

<bkaempgen> What does "to refactor some HHS CQLD GLD using QB" mean?

<gt> ACTION: ChrisMusialek to get the data.agency.gov and {sector}.data.gov discussion into the Data.gov PMO SW/LD meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ChrisMusialek

<ZacharyWhitley> Clinical Quality Linked Data (CQLD)

<bkaempgen> ah, thanks.

<mhausenblas> Michael: I'll have to send regrets in advance for next week, sorry

<ZacharyWhitley> Health and Human Services (HHS)

<bkaempgen> * can't, may be travelling, also

<cgueret> bye

thanks all. bye.

<simonWall> bye

<MartinKaltenboeck> thank you & bye!

<gt> thanks all - bye

<BartvanLeeuwen> bye

<gatemezi> thanks - bye!!

<gt> thanks for scribing and generating minutes bhyland :)

<gatemezi> @luisbermudez: please I send you a mail for help..

<gatemezi> hope you have seen it!! TIA

<MacTed> trackbot, end conference

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Bhyland to send out email to ask people to fill in company info & start trying to use deployment form to see how usability & data shapes up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: ChrisMusialek to get the data.agency.gov and {sector}.data.gov discussion into the Data.gov PMO SW/LD meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: george to follow up with bhyland, ChrisMusialek and cory-c regarding NIEM interaction with US Data.gov PMO [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: to refactor some HHS CQLD GLD using QB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/08-gld-minutes.html#action03]
 
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