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15:02:17 <krisk> zakim, this is htmlt
15:02:17 <Zakim> sorry, krisk, I do not see a conference named 'htmlt' in progress or scheduled at this time
15:03:49 <krisk> Looks like this will be all on IRC
15:04:26 <krisk> Normal given the past meetings...
15:04:46 <krisk> Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Sep/0001.html
15:05:48 <krisk> Looks like a light meeting agenda...
15:06:01 <krisk> Item #1 Check for and bugs on approved tests
15:06:22 <krisk> Bug #12896 (old)
15:06:51 <krisk> I recall that we were going to have plh come back to confirm that this is true
15:07:18 <krisk> I'll send this out in the meeting notes since it's been a little while
15:07:56 <krisk> I presume that Ms2ger believes that this is a valid bug since he opened the bug
15:08:32 <krisk> If anyone else has feedback please respond either to the IRC, Meeting notes or in the bug itself
15:09:05 <krisk> I'll add this to the next meeting to help drive this bug to closure
15:09:14 <Ms2ger> Actually
15:09:41 <Ms2ger> getElementsByClassName is now defined in DOM Core instead of HTML
15:10:13 <Ms2ger> So I'll move these tests to the WebApps repo
15:10:43 <krisk> You should ping the Opera folks since the wrote most of the tests
15:11:04 <Ms2ger> jgraham, ^
15:11:57 <krisk> IMHO standard practice is to remove tests if they are no longer normative
15:12:23 <krisk> Bug #13875
15:13:25 <krisk> Ms2ger could you send something to the list or add to the bug maybe a use case using httpd.js vs php?
15:13:49 <Ms2ger> Haven't had time to spend on that yet
15:14:19 <krisk> Ok
15:20:53 <krisk> Looks like you fixed/updated some canvas tests
15:21:01 <krisk> (you meaning ms2ger)
15:21:08 <Ms2ger> I did
15:22:14 <krisk> The TYPE_MISMATCH_ERR should be noted
15:22:25 <krisk> Do you want to add more to the IRC on these changes?
15:22:51 <Ms2ger> No
15:25:52 <krisk> Any reason?
15:26:20 <krisk> The reason I ask is that this error case had really good browser interop (chrome, IE, Firefox, Opera) 
15:26:30 <Ms2ger> Oh
15:27:00 <krisk> No this is not the case...the IDL spec is leading - which seems odd
15:27:28 <krisk> It would be alot easier to have the IDL spec just match all the browsers and canvas content on the web
15:28:40 <Ms2ger> It doesn't really matter which exception is thrown, IMO
15:28:51 <Ms2ger> Might as well pick a logical one
15:31:39 <krisk> e.code == 17 (TYPE_MISMATCH_ERR) seems just fine
15:33:05 <Ms2ger> Anyway, if you think it's an issue, it's a spec issue
15:34:08 <krisk> If we just care that an assert is thrown then the HTML test should be updated as such
15:34:37 <krisk> Seems like it would be more valid to have some IDL cases in webapps rather then trying to test the web IDL spec via HTML tests
15:35:03 <Ms2ger> WebIDL is a normative dependency for HTML, so we should test the implications of that
15:37:23 <krisk> That is fine just ned to call this out - better to be clear that this is a web IDL test case and not a HTML test case
15:37:37 <Ms2ger> It is an HTML test case
15:37:49 <Ms2ger> It is testing an interface defined in HTML
15:38:33 <krisk> Still seems like a spec bug in IDL
15:39:37 <Ms2ger> I think TypeError makes more sense when you pass a value that doesn't match the type of the parameter, but please file a bug on WebIDL
15:40:42 <krisk> Moving on Agenda Item #2 new test submissions
15:43:18 <krisk> Any comments on test submission that people may want to be informed of?
15:45:12 <Ms2ger> Nothing in particular
15:45:28 <krisk> OK - people can always look at the 'shortlog' http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/shortlog
15:46:03 <krisk> Thats the end of the agenda
15:46:08 <krisk> shall we adjourn?
15:46:18 <Ms2ger> OK
15:47:38 <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:47:46 <krisk> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:47:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/06-htmlt-minutes.html krisk
15:53:10 <jgraham> Oops
15:53:15 <jgraham> Forgot about this...
15:53:59 <Ms2ger> While you're here, you can move these getElementsByClassName tests: )
15:54:35 <jgraham> Or I could pretend that I didn't hear you
15:57:35 <Ms2ger> This is IRC, sticking fingers in your ears won't help :)
16:14:45 <jgraham> It's OK I stuck them in my eyes too
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17:33:48 <Ms2ger> RRSAgent, bye
17:33:48 <RRSAgent> I see no action items