IRC log of eo on 2011-08-19

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12:28:25 [RRSAgent]
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logging to
12:28:25 [Zakim]
ok, shawn, I see WAI_EOWG()8:30AM already started
12:28:31 [shawn]
zakim, who is here?
12:28:31 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.562.256.aaaa, +1.512.873.aabb
12:28:32 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, clifftyllick, Char, shawn, IanPouncey
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12:31:15 [clifftyllick]
zakim, aabb is clifftyllick
12:31:15 [Zakim]
+clifftyllick; got it
12:31:39 [IanPouncey1]
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12:31:53 [clifftyllick]
zakim, aaaa is Wayne
12:31:53 [Zakim]
+Wayne; got it
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12:32:38 [IanPouncey]
Hi shawn, will be late dialing in today, should join in 30 minutes at the latest
12:32:43 [clifftyllick]
Zakim, ??P2 is Sandy
12:32:43 [Zakim]
+Sandy; got it
12:34:34 [dboudreau]
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12:34:51 [dboudreau]
morning everyone
12:35:29 [clifftyllick]
Morning, Denis! We're getting Wayne set up in IRC (or not)
12:35:56 [shawn]
zakim, who is making noise?
12:36:01 [Wayne]
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shawn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Wayne (50%), Sandy (64%)
12:36:43 [Zakim]
+ +1.781.598.aacc
12:37:21 [clifftyllick]
zakim, aacc is Char
12:37:21 [Zakim]
+Char; got it
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12:38:35 [dboudreau]
zakim, sds is dboudreau
12:38:35 [Zakim]
+dboudreau; got it
12:39:15 [clifftyllick]
scribe: Cliff
12:39:32 [clifftyllick]
scribenick: clifftyllick
12:39:46 [shawn]
Meeting: EOWG
12:39:46 [shawn]
Chair: Shawn
12:40:00 [shawn]
zakim, who is here?
12:40:00 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Wayne, clifftyllick, Sandy, Shawn, Char, dboudreau
12:40:01 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Wayne, dboudreau, IanPouncey, RRSAgent, Zakim, clifftyllick, Char, shawn
12:40:51 [clifftyllick]
Topic: Slides template
12:40:52 [shawn]
12:41:07 [Wayne]
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12:42:57 [clifftyllick]
shawn: char has been getting slides into html; slides will be available in at least 3 formats, including html, PowerPoint, and html Slidey (which can be used to give a presentation). PP should be usable by Open Office and others.
12:43:06 [clifftyllick]
shawn: Format OK?
12:43:38 [clifftyllick]
Denis: Okay in Mac Lion/Firefox 6
12:46:16 [clifftyllick]
Char: Encountering issues in FF and IE in Windows 7: when a slide is shorter than a full screen, it does not advance to the top of the next slide; instead it advances one screen down.
12:47:04 [dboudreau]
Using Msc OS X Lion (10.7.1), the whole thing looks pretty much the same on Firefox 6.0, Opera 11.50, Camino 2.0.7, Chrome 13.0.782.112 and Safari 5.1
12:47:24 [shawn]
thanks to Ian!
12:47:24 [clifftyllick]
Wayne: Great in alternate stylesheets
12:48:15 [clifftyllick]
also looks good in OmniWeb, Mac Leopard
12:48:34 [clifftyllick]
Topic: Volunteer to edit Slidey help
12:48:40 [shawn]
12:49:30 [clifftyllick]
Wayne volunteers to start right away
12:52:03 [clifftyllick]
Shawn volunteers Cliff to help embellish and format the instructions for Slidey, especially to add tips for screen reader users and other visual display, keyboard-only, and, if needed, for other interfaces
12:52:49 [clifftyllick]
Shawn: Nice to have a draft next week; update by Wednesday so we can have some discussions in e-mail
12:54:33 [clifftyllick]
Shawn: plan is to have some video for this; html; and, if we're lucky, all will be ready by end of August
12:56:56 [clifftyllick]
Shawn: Char might help with Slidey help
12:57:17 [clifftyllick]
Denis: Can get some screen reader users to help review Slidey help
12:59:44 [clifftyllick]
Topic: Working drafts for review
13:01:10 [shawn]
Cliff: ATAG conformance matching WCAG...
13:04:30 [shawn]
e.g., colour contrast switcher meets 1.4.8. but default contrast is 5:1 so not meet 1.4.x. at AA
13:06:37 [shawn]
Contrast (Minimum): 1.4.3 AA
13:06:57 [shawn]
Contrast (Enhanced) 1.4.6 AAA
13:07:14 [shawn]
1.4.8 AAA Foreground and background colors can be selected by the user.
13:07:43 [shawn]
so not meet 1.4.6. at AAA
13:09:34 [clifftyllick]
Wayne: finds 1.7.2 (user stylesheets) unclear on UAAG; will comment
13:10:59 [clifftyllick]
Wayne: success criterion seems to say that the page author, not the user, will create the alternative stylesheet. Concern is that author will not know user's needs.
13:11:48 [clifftyllick]
Shawn: Everyone get comments for ATAG ready to discuss first Friday in September.
13:14:47 [Zakim]
13:14:58 [IanPouncey]
Zakim, P10 is IanPouncey
13:14:58 [Zakim]
sorry, IanPouncey, I do not recognize a party named 'P10'
13:15:09 [IanPouncey]
Zakim, ??P10 is IanPouncey
13:15:09 [Zakim]
+IanPouncey; got it
13:16:07 [clifftyllick]
shawn: in meantime, submit comments directly for uaag and wcag techniques
13:19:48 [clifftyllick]
Wayne: should HTML5 be on our radar as a Working Group?
13:20:05 [clifftyllick]
Shawn, Denis: Too early
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13:32:04 [clifftyllick]
Denis: A11yMontreal will be live streamed next weekend. Translations to English will be added after the conference.
13:34:34 [clifftyllick]
Denis: Struggling to find a platform for accessible live streaming.
13:35:31 [dboudreau]
Especially and
13:35:38 [clifftyllick]
Shawn: no teleconference next week, but possible that items will be reviewed by e-mail in the meantime.
13:36:40 [shawn]
zakim, who is here?
13:36:40 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Wayne, clifftyllick, Sandy, Shawn, Char, dboudreau, IanPouncey
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On IRC I see dboudreau, IanPouncey, RRSAgent, Zakim, clifftyllick, Char, shawn
13:36:46 [Zakim]
13:37:44 [dboudreau]
Or, english versions: &
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13:38:07 [clifftyllick]
Present: Wayne, Cliff, Sandy, Shawn, Char, Denis, Ian
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13:42:01 [shawn]
zakim, who is here?
13:42:02 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Wayne, Shawn
13:42:03 [Zakim]
On IRC I see IanPouncey, RRSAgent, Zakim, clifftyllick, Char, shawn
13:42:51 [clifftyllick]
Regrets: Jennifer, Sylvie, Shadi, Helle, Andrew, Sharron, Emmanuelle
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13:44:23 [clifftyllick]
rrsagent, draft minutes
13:44:23 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate clifftyllick
13:46:02 [clifftyllick]
Shawn, trying to download the minutes from, I get an Insufficient Access Privileges message.
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13:47:11 [shawn]
rrsagent, make logs public
13:47:21 [shawn]
rrsagent, draft minues
13:47:21 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minues', shawn. Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:47:30 [shawn]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate shawn
13:49:05 [clifftyllick]
got it. thanks!
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WAI_EOWG()8:30AM has ended
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Attendees were +1.562.256.aaaa, +1.512.873.aabb, Shawn, clifftyllick, Wayne, Sandy, +1.781.598.aacc, Char, dboudreau, IanPouncey
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