IRC log of eval on 2011-08-18

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13:37:15 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-eval-irc
13:37:35 [shadi]
zakim, this will be eval
13:37:35 [Zakim]
ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM scheduled to start in 23 minutes
13:48:05 [shadi]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2011Aug/0008.html
13:48:05 [shadi]
chair: Shadi
13:48:05 [shadi]
regrets: Kerstin
13:48:05 [shadi]
agenda+ Welcome and logistics
13:48:05 [shadi]
agenda+ Recap of the proposed work
13:48:06 [shadi]
agenda+ Round the table introductions
13:48:08 [shadi]
agenda+ Overview on upcoming schedule
13:48:10 [shadi]
agenda+ Any other business
13:48:37 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
13:49:01 [shadi]
meeting: WCAG 2.0 Evaluation Methodology Task Force Teleconference Meeting
13:52:22 [LeonieWatson]
LeonieWatson has joined #Eval
13:55:45 [Zakim]
WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM has now started
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+ +1.514.312.aaaa
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+Vivienne
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Liz has joined #eval
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-Vivienne
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+??P6
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+??P13
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+ +61.8.920.6.aabb
13:58:48 [shadi]
zakim, ??p13 is shadi
13:58:48 [Zakim]
+shadi; got it
13:59:16 [shadi]
zakim, aaaa is Samuel
13:59:16 [Zakim]
+Samuel; got it
13:59:46 [Zakim]
+ +1.301.975.aacc
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+ +1.858.074.aadd
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+ +49.404.318.aaee
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dboudreau has joined #eval
14:00:23 [shadi]
zakim, aabb is Vivienne
14:00:23 [Zakim]
+Vivienne; got it
14:00:24 [dboudreau]
good morning everyone
14:00:33 [shadi]
zakim, aaee is Detlev
14:00:33 [Zakim]
+Detlev; got it
14:00:53 [Zakim]
+??P26
14:00:56 [shadi]
zakim, ??p6 is Richard
14:00:56 [Zakim]
+Richard; got it
14:01:06 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
14:01:06 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Samuel, Richard, shadi, Vivienne, +1.301.975.aacc, +1.858.074.aadd (muted), Detlev, ??P26
14:01:14 [Zakim]
+Katie_Haritos-Shea
14:01:41 [shadi]
zakim, ??p26 Alistair
14:01:41 [Zakim]
I don't understand '??p26 Alistair', shadi
14:01:53 [sds]
shadi: (this is Samuel), there will be dboudreau on the same phone line as mine.
14:01:54 [shadi]
zakim, aacc is Liz
14:01:54 [Zakim]
+Liz; got it
14:02:02 [dboudreau]
shadi, 1.312 is samuel sirois and me
14:02:21 [Zakim]
+ +1.978.443.aaff
14:02:25 [Zakim]
+ +1.514.448.aagg
14:02:26 [shadi]
zakim, aadd is Emmanuel
14:02:33 [Zakim]
+Emmanuel; got it
14:02:40 [sds]
Zakim, mute me
14:02:40 [shadi]
zakim, aaff is Kathy
14:02:46 [Zakim]
sorry, sds, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:02:48 [Zakim]
+Kathy; got it
14:03:01 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
14:03:01 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Samuel, Richard, shadi, Vivienne, Liz, Emmanuel (muted), Detlev, ??P26, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Kathy, +1.514.448.aagg
14:03:16 [shadi]
zakim, ??p26 is Alistair
14:03:16 [Zakim]
+Alistair; got it
14:03:49 [shadi]
zakim, ??aagg is Denis
14:03:50 [Zakim]
sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named '??aagg'
14:03:56 [shadi]
zakim, aagg is Denis
14:03:56 [Zakim]
+Denis; got it
14:04:00 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
14:04:02 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Samuel, Richard, shadi, Vivienne, Liz, Emmanuel (muted), Detlev, Alistair, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Kathy, Denis
14:04:09 [dboudreau]
zakim, mute me
14:04:11 [Zakim]
+ +31.65.127.aahh
14:04:13 [Zakim]
sorry, dboudreau, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:04:15 [Zakim]
+??P45
14:04:26 [shadi]
zakim, aahh is Eric
14:04:26 [Zakim]
+Eric; got it
14:04:46 [shadi]
zakim, ??p45 is Leonie
14:04:46 [Zakim]
+Leonie; got it
14:05:11 [Tim]
Tim has joined #eval
14:05:11 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
14:05:11 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Samuel, Richard, shadi, Vivienne, Liz, Emmanuel (muted), Detlev, Alistair, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Kathy, Denis, Eric, Leonie
14:05:16 [Detlev_Fischer]
Detlev_Fischer has joined #eval
14:05:58 [richard]
richard has joined #eval
14:06:09 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the call?
14:06:09 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Samuel, Richard, shadi, Vivienne, Liz, Emmanuel (muted), Detlev, Alistair, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Kathy, Denis, Eric, Leonie
14:06:13 [Zakim]
+Tim_Boland
14:06:42 [shadi]
zakim, mute tim
14:06:42 [Zakim]
Tim_Boland should now be muted
14:07:01 [dboudreau]
zakim, mute me
14:07:01 [Zakim]
sorry, dboudreau, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:07:09 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, mute me
14:07:09 [Zakim]
sorry, LeonieWatson, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:07:29 [shadi]
zakim, denis dboudreau
14:07:29 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'denis dboudreau', shadi
14:07:38 [shadi]
zakim, leonie is LeonieWatson
14:07:38 [Zakim]
+LeonieWatson; got it
14:07:48 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
14:07:50 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, mute me
14:07:50 [Zakim]
LeonieWatson should now be muted
14:07:58 [dboudreau]
samuel and i should be with 514.312
14:08:04 [dboudreau]
zakim, mute me
14:08:04 [Zakim]
sorry, dboudreau, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:08:18 [sds]
zakim, mute me
14:08:18 [Zakim]
sorry, sds, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:08:26 [shadi]
agenda?
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zakim, sds is Samuel
14:08:59 [Zakim]
sorry, sds, I do not recognize a party named 'sds'
14:09:11 [dboudreau]
zakim, denis is dboudreau
14:09:11 [Zakim]
+dboudreau; got it
14:09:18 [sds]
sakim Samuel is sds
14:09:18 [dboudreau]
zakim, mute me
14:09:18 [Zakim]
dboudreau should now be muted
14:09:25 [sds]
Zakim, Samuel is sds
14:09:25 [Zakim]
+sds; got it
14:09:47 [sds]
Zakim, mute me
14:09:49 [Zakim]
sds should now be muted
14:09:59 [dboudreau]
zakim, unmute me
14:09:59 [Zakim]
dboudreau should no longer be muted
14:10:05 [LeonieWatson]
scribe: LeonieWatson
14:10:05 [shadi]
scribe: Leonie
14:10:11 [Tim]
got disconnected - will try to call back in
14:10:14 [shadi]
scribenick: LeonieWatson
14:10:14 [sds]
zakim, unmute me
14:10:14 [Zakim]
sds should no longer be muted
14:10:17 [Ryladog_]
Ryladog_ has joined #eval
14:10:36 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, unmute me
14:10:36 [Zakim]
LeonieWatson should no longer be muted
14:11:51 [Zakim]
+Tim_Boland
14:11:52 [dboudreau]
zakim, mute me
14:11:52 [Zakim]
dboudreau should now be muted
14:12:00 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, mute me
14:12:00 [Zakim]
LeonieWatson should now be muted
14:12:41 [shadi]
zakim, take up first
14:12:41 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'take up first', shadi
14:12:49 [shadi]
zakim, take up first agendum 1
14:12:49 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'take up first agendum 1', shadi
14:12:53 [shadi]
zakim, take up first agendum
14:12:53 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'take up first agendum', shadi
14:13:01 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 1
14:13:02 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Welcome and logistics" taken up [from shadi]
14:13:26 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Orienting everyone to W3C meetings and processes.
14:13:34 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim
14:13:50 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot
14:14:00 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
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14:15:02 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Zakim is the conference bridge we use. You can give commands for muting/unmuting, adding/removing yourself to/from a queue to speak.
14:15:07 [shadi]
q+
14:15:16 [shadi]
q?
14:15:18 [Ryladog_]
Q+
14:15:27 [shadi]
ack s
14:15:35 [shadi]
ack Ryladog_
14:16:29 [LeonieWatson]
SA: We use IRC bots (automated programmes that help run meetings). RRSAgent helps with recording the minutes for example.
14:16:41 [LeonieWatson]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:16:41 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-eval-minutes.html LeonieWatson
14:16:53 [Ryladog_]
q+
14:16:56 [vivienne]
q+
14:17:03 [shadi]
ack Ryladog_
14:17:25 [LeonieWatson]
KS: Are those minutes already available?
14:18:03 [shadi]
ack vivienne
14:18:04 [LeonieWatson]
SA: The minutes should be available from the link just displayed by RRSagent (see above)
14:18:22 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, unmute me
14:18:22 [Zakim]
LeonieWatson should no longer be muted
14:18:40 [sds]
no
14:19:00 [Eric]
Eric has joined #eval
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VC: Had trouble connecting through xLight SIP client.
14:20:46 [vincent]
Kakim, mute me
14:20:54 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, mute me
14:20:54 [Zakim]
LeonieWatson should now be muted
14:21:00 [vincent]
Zakim, mute me
14:21:00 [Zakim]
sorry, vincent, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:21:18 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the call?
14:21:18 [Zakim]
On the phone I see sds, Richard, shadi, Vivienne, Liz, Emmanuel (muted), Detlev, Alistair, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Kathy, dboudreau, Eric, LeonieWatson (muted), Tim_Boland (muted)
14:21:21 [vivienne]
zakim, mute me
14:21:21 [Zakim]
Vivienne should now be muted
14:21:25 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
14:22:01 [dboudreau]
zakim, unmute me
14:22:01 [Zakim]
dboudreau was not muted, dboudreau
14:22:02 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, mute me
14:22:02 [Zakim]
sorry, Detlev_Fischer, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:22:19 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Responding to general IRC/Zakim questions.
14:22:56 [sinarmaya]
Zakim, Emmanuel is Emmanuelle
14:22:56 [Zakim]
+Emmanuelle; got it
14:22:57 [LeonieWatson]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:22:57 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-eval-minutes.html LeonieWatson
14:23:05 [Kathy]
Kathy has joined #eval
14:23:34 [shadi]
zakim, detlev is Detlev_Fischer
14:23:34 [Zakim]
+Detlev_Fischer; got it
14:23:39 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, Detlev is Detlev_Fischer
14:23:39 [Zakim]
+Detlev_Fischer; got it
14:23:50 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, mute me
14:23:50 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer.a should now be muted
14:24:00 [sds]
Zakim, mute me
14:24:00 [Zakim]
sds should now be muted
14:24:15 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, next item
14:24:15 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Recap of the proposed work" taken up [from shadi]
14:24:24 [shadi]
zakim, take up next
14:24:24 [Zakim]
agendum 2 was just opened, shadi
14:24:58 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Hopefully everyone is up to date with the TF work statement.
14:25:00 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/eval-tf
14:25:50 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Any questions or comments about the work proposed for teh TF?
14:25:54 [vivienne]
it looks great to me
14:25:59 [Detlev_Fischer]
Q+
14:26:01 [sds]
no, seems good for me
14:26:05 [LeonieWatson]
s/teh//the/
14:26:06 [Tim]
Are we going to use any of the old TSDTF work in our new committee?
14:26:06 [shadi]
ack Detlev_Fischer
14:26:17 [shadi]
ack Detlev_Fischer.a
14:26:25 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, unmute me
14:26:25 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer.a was not muted, Detlev_Fischer
14:26:37 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the call?
14:26:37 [Zakim]
On the phone I see sds (muted), Richard, shadi, Vivienne (muted), Liz, Emmanuelle (muted), Detlev_Fischer.a, Alistair, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Kathy, dboudreau, Eric, LeonieWatson
14:26:40 [Zakim]
... (muted)
14:26:52 [shadi]
zakim, Detlev_Fischer.a is Detlev_Fischer
14:26:52 [Zakim]
+Detlev_Fischer; got it
14:27:35 [Zakim]
+Tim_Boland
14:28:09 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, mute me
14:28:09 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer should now be muted
14:28:22 [vivienne]
do you want me to scribe till Leonie gets back on irc?
14:28:40 [shadi]
scribe: vivienne
14:29:01 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, unmute me
14:29:01 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer should no longer be muted
14:29:03 [vivienne]
Detlev: asked about multitude of types of evaluation and should this all be incorporated in one statement?
14:29:11 [LeonieWatson]
LeonieWatson has joined #Eval
14:29:16 [Detlev_Fischer]
q+
14:29:30 [vivienne]
Shadi: stated that this is something we'll be looking it
14:29:33 [shadi]
ack Detlev_Fischer
14:30:24 [LeonieWatson]
DF: Will we be looking at policy and training?
14:30:40 [vivienne]
Detlev: asked about methodology, scope, whether it's a one-time assessment, selecting pages etc
14:30:51 [LeonieWatson]
DF: There is often more to a methodology.
14:30:53 [vivienne]
Shadi: that is beyond the scope for this project
14:31:13 [shadi]
ack Tim
14:31:17 [LeonieWatson]
SA: My feeling is that this could be beyond the scope of what we're doing.
14:31:29 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, mute me
14:31:29 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer should now be muted
14:31:32 [vivienne]
Tim: is any other work available that we can use?
14:31:44 [LeonieWatson]
TB: Is any of the previous work that's been done useful to the TF's activity?
14:31:59 [shadi]
scribe: LeonieWatson
14:32:02 [Ryladog_]
q+
14:32:05 [vivienne]
Leonie, now you're back I'll hand scribing back to yy
14:32:54 [LeonieWatson]
SA: We'll be focusing on the overall approach for evaluating a website.
14:33:08 [LeonieWatson]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:33:08 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-eval-minutes.html LeonieWatson
14:34:03 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Right now the idea is to develop an overall proceedure, how do I select pages/representative pages, advice on testing, and how do I aggregate those results.
14:35:11 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
14:35:53 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/
14:36:12 [LeonieWatson]
SA: There are links to related WAI activities on the TF homepage.
14:36:28 [shadi]
ack Ryladog_
14:36:59 [LeonieWatson]
KHS: So we're preparing for another group to create test suites for evaluation tools?
14:37:13 [Zakim]
+Tim_Boland
14:37:15 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Yes.
14:37:24 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, unmute me
14:37:24 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer should no longer be muted
14:38:50 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Another piece of W3C formality - We're a task force, under the umbrella of two working groups. Traditionally TFs are not decision making bodies, so our work will be signed off by our parent working groups.
14:39:17 [LeonieWatson]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:39:17 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-eval-minutes.html LeonieWatson
14:40:10 [shadi]
Eric Velleman
14:40:18 [dboudreau]
So, the work of this tf is mainly to work on procedures and methodology, while test suites are to be developed in the wg themselves, is that correct?
14:41:08 [LeonieWatson]
EV: I've been at the Accessibility Foundation in the Netherlands, and worked on the UN accessibility methodology a couple of years back.
14:41:55 [LeonieWatson]
EV: Idea is to come up with a unified web evaluation methodology.
14:41:59 [shadi]
to denis: yes -- but we may identify that there is a need for additional guidance on testing in the context of conformance evaluation
14:42:10 [Detlev_Fischer]
should be UWEM methodology, not UN methodology
14:42:21 [dboudreau]
@shadi ยป great, thx
14:42:22 [shadi]
s/UN/UWEM
14:42:35 [LeonieWatson]
s/UN/UWEM/
14:42:42 [shadi]
s/UN accessibility/UWEM accessibility methodology
14:43:14 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, next item
14:43:14 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Round the table introductions" taken up [from shadi]
14:43:27 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=48225&public=1
14:44:00 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Quick 30 second introductions from everyone.
14:44:04 [sds]
Zakim, unmute me
14:44:04 [Zakim]
sds should no longer be muted
14:44:12 [dboudreau]
zakim, unmute me
14:44:12 [Zakim]
dboudreau was not muted, dboudreau
14:44:51 [vivienne]
zakim, unmute me
14:44:51 [Zakim]
Vivienne should no longer be muted
14:45:50 [shadi]
Tim Boland
14:45:55 [shadi]
Denis Boudreau
14:46:00 [shadi]
Vivienne Conway
14:46:15 [shadi]
Michael Cooper
14:46:43 [vivienne]
zakim, mute me
14:46:43 [Zakim]
Vivienne should now be muted
14:46:47 [shadi]
Detlev Fischer
14:48:00 [shadi]
Elizabeth Fong
14:48:32 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, mute me
14:48:32 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer should now be muted
14:48:54 [shadi]
Vincent Francois
14:49:13 [sds]
Zakim, mute me
14:49:13 [Zakim]
sds should now be muted
14:49:55 [shadi]
Alistair Garrison
14:50:58 [shadi]
Emmanuelle Gutierrez y Restrepo
14:51:35 [Zakim]
-Tim_Boland
14:51:44 [shadi]
Katie Haritos-Shea
14:52:19 [shadi]
[Kerstin Probiesch]
14:52:26 [shadi]
[Roberto Scano]
14:53:24 [shadi]
Samuel Sirois
14:53:28 [sds]
zakim, unmute me
14:53:28 [Zakim]
sds should no longer be muted
14:53:46 [shadi]
Eric Velleman
14:53:57 [shadi]
[Votis Konstantinos]
14:54:27 [sds]
zakim, mute me
14:54:36 [Zakim]
sds should now be muted
14:54:38 [shadi]
Kathleen Wahlbin
14:55:30 [shadi]
Richard Warren
14:56:20 [shadi]
Leonie Watson
14:56:22 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, unmute me
14:56:24 [Zakim]
LeonieWatson should no longer be muted
14:57:18 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, mute me
14:57:18 [Zakim]
LeonieWatson should now be muted
14:57:26 [vincent]
To illustrate our voice exchanges : http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=48225&public=1&order=standing
14:57:26 [LeonieWatson]
zakim, next item
14:57:29 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "Overview on upcoming schedule" taken up [from shadi]
14:57:32 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/eval-tf#timeline
14:58:02 [LeonieWatson]
SA: We need to start looking at requirements.
14:58:30 [LeonieWatson]
SA: We're all agreed that a common methodology is needed, but there are lots of open questions.
14:58:44 [Tim]
can't get back in - says passcode not valid - will use irc
14:58:44 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, unmute me
14:58:44 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer should no longer be muted
14:58:49 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Over the next four weeks we'll put together a clear set of requirements.
14:59:14 [Detlev_Fischer]
q+
14:59:15 [LeonieWatson]
SA: Weekly telecon will be at the same time each week, and will use the same pass code/IRC channel.
14:59:24 [LeonieWatson]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:59:24 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-eval-minutes.html LeonieWatson
14:59:54 [shadi]
ack Detlev_Fischer
15:00:08 [Detlev_Fischer]
http://www.bitvtest.eu/eval-tf-problems
15:00:48 [Detlev_Fischer]
Zakim, mute me
15:00:51 [Zakim]
-LeonieWatson
15:00:54 [LeonieWatson]
LeonieWatson has left #Eval
15:01:06 [Zakim]
Detlev_Fischer should now be muted
15:01:17 [vivienne]
what is the proper procedure to exit the irc
15:02:28 [dboudreau]
thanks everyone, have a great day
15:02:29 [vivienne]
thanks shadi
15:02:31 [sds]
thank you all
15:02:46 [vivienne]
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15:02:56 [Kathy]
Thanks everyone
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15:03:07 [Zakim]
-Detlev_Fischer
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-Alistair
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-shadi
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-Richard
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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rssagent, make logs world
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-Eric
15:03:24 [shadi]
rssagent, make minutes
15:03:25 [Zakim]
-Emmanuelle
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-dboudreau
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-sds
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-Liz
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-Kathy
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-Vivienne
15:04:17 [Zakim]
WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM has ended
15:04:19 [Zakim]
Attendees were +1.514.312.aaaa, Vivienne, +61.8.920.6.aabb, shadi, +1.301.975.aacc, +1.858.074.aadd, +49.404.318.aaee, Richard, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Liz, +1.978.443.aaff,
15:04:24 [Zakim]
... +1.514.448.aagg, Kathy, Alistair, +31.65.127.aahh, Eric, Tim_Boland, LeonieWatson, dboudreau, sds, Emmanuelle, Detlev_Fischer
15:04:24 [Eric]
Eric has left #eval
15:04:31 [shadi]
zakim, bye
15:05:00 [shadi]
rssagent, make minutes
15:05:02 [shadi]
rssagent, make logs world
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Zakim has left #eval
15:07:30 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
15:07:36 [shadi]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:07:36 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-eval-minutes.html shadi
15:07:40 [shadi]
rrsagent, bye
15:07:40 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items