IRC log of gld on 2011-08-04

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-gld-irc

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RRSAgent, make logs world

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Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD

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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

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Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 04 August 2011

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Zakim, list conferences

14:01:08 [Zakim]

I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM, Team_(HTML5WG)9:00AM, INC_LLDXG()10:00AM, WF_TF()9:00AM active

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also scheduled at this time are Team_(webtvws)13:03Z, Team_Global(review)8:00AM, IA_WebApps(Widgets)9:00AM, SW_RDFa()10:00AM, UW_POI(POIWG)10:00AM, Math_IG()10:00AM,

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... WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM, XML_PMWG()10:00AM, MM_MMI(EMMA)10:00AM

14:01:18 [bhyland]

GLDWG

14:01:21 [ZacharyWhitley]

zakim, who's here?

14:01:21 [Zakim]

has not yet started, ZacharyWhitley

14:01:27 [Zakim]

On IRC I see MacTed, Zakim, RRSAgent, olyerickson, toddpehle, gatemezi, George, Luis, martinAlvarez, bhyland, Mike, ZacharyWhitley, DruidSmith, boris, tgheen, Cory, agmezpre,

14:01:27 [mhausenblas]

Zakim, this will be GLDWG

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... danbri, mhausenblas, cygri, sandro, trackbot

14:01:34 [Zakim]

ok, mhausenblas, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

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+ +1.410.224.aaee

14:02:17 [gatemezi]

Hi all

14:02:36 [cygri]

zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

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+cygri

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+ +1.540.898.aaff

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sorry, cygri, I do not recognize a party named 'mhausenblas'

14:02:56 [boris]

zakim, who is here?

14:03:19 [DruidSmith]

Zakim, +1.202.566.0797 is me

14:03:31 [Zakim]

On the phone I see TGheen, DruidSmith, ZacharyWhitley, ??P10, George, +1.202.691.aabb, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.202.566.aadd, +1.410.224.aaee, +1.540.898.aaff, cygri

14:03:37 [boris]

zakim, ??P10 is me

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sorry, DruidSmith, I do not recognize a party named '+1.202.566.0797'

14:03:51 [mhausenblas]

Zakim, I am really cygri

14:04:03 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Yigal, MacTed, Zakim, RRSAgent, olyerickson, toddpehle, gatemezi, George, Luis, bhyland, Mike, ZacharyWhitley, DruidSmith, boris, tgheen, Cory, agmezpre, danbri,

14:04:03 [mhausenblas]

Zakim, cygri really is mhausenblas

14:04:07 [olyerickson]

I just joined the call...

14:04:07 [Zakim]

... mhausenblas, cygri, sandro, trackbot

14:04:10 [Zakim]

+??P32

14:04:11 [Zakim]

+boris; got it

14:04:17 [cygri]

zakim, don't listen to mhausenblas. he's confused.

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+ +1.518.276.aagg

14:04:20 [cygri]

zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

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I don't understand 'I am really cygri', mhausenblas

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I don't understand 'cygri really is mhausenblas', mhausenblas

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I don't understand you, cygri

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sorry, cygri, I do not recognize a party named 'mhausenblas'

14:04:49 [toddpehle]

zakim, +1.410.224.2316 is me

14:04:49 [Yigal]

zakim, ??p32 is me

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sorry, toddpehle, I do not recognize a party named '+1.410.224.2316'

14:04:51 [cygri]

zakim, cygri is mhausenblas

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+Yigal; got it

14:04:58 [Zakim]

+mhausenblas; got it

14:04:58 [ZacharyWhitley]

zakim, who's here?

14:05:00 [Zakim]

On the phone I see TGheen, DruidSmith, ZacharyWhitley, boris, George, +1.202.691.aabb, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.202.566.aadd, +1.410.224.aaee, +1.540.898.aaff, mhausenblas, Yigal,

14:05:01 [cygri]

zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

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scribenick: mhausenblas

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Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.04

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... +1.518.276.aagg

14:05:11 [gatemezi]

rrsagent, make records public

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+cygri; got it

14:05:15 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Yigal, MacTed, Zakim, RRSAgent, olyerickson, toddpehle, gatemezi, George, Luis, bhyland, Mike, ZacharyWhitley, DruidSmith, boris, tgheen, Cory, agmezpre, danbri,

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Topic: Intro

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... mhausenblas, cygri, sandro, trackbot

14:05:40 [toddpehle]

zakim, +1.410.224.aaee is me

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+toddpehle; got it

14:05:46 [bhyland]

@mhausenblas I've updated Scribes page http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Scribes#Scribes and swapped you with 15-Sept date.

14:06:01 [DruidSmith]

That was Luis Bermudez, Open Geospatial Consortium

14:06:16 [mhausenblas]

Louis: background in geo-spatial and streams

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@Luis are you based in the Washington DC area?

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+??P37

14:07:05 [mhausenblas]

Chair: George

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scribenick: martinAlvarez

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+Kingsley_Idehen

14:08:41 [MacTed]

Zakim, Kingsley_Idehen is OpenLink_Software

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+OpenLink_Software; got it

14:08:48 [MacTed]

Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

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+MacTed; got it

14:08:49 [DruidSmith]

Zakim, aadd is Mike

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+Mike; got it

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+??P40

14:09:41 [martinAlvarez]

Action: Sandro to investigate legal issues of the wiki

14:09:41 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-1 - Investigate legal issues of the wiki [on Sandro Hawke - due 2011-08-11].

14:10:08 [bhyland]

@Yigal, @ZacharyWhitley, @Dan - did you all follow the link I sent in an email to put in details about joining as an invited guest?

14:10:21 [mhausenblas]

s/legal issues/acces issues

14:10:28 [ZacharyWhitley]

s/legal/access/

14:10:32 [Yigal]

@bhyland I've been derelict in this matter

14:10:45 [cygri]

ACTION-1: investigate access issues of the wiki (yigal and others can't access it)

14:10:45 [trackbot]

ACTION-1 Investigate legal issues of the wiki notes added

14:11:13 [bhyland]

There is a process for being added to wiki. If people who have been invited could *please* follow the link & fill out the form, that would help us get you access.

14:11:30 [MacTed]

Zakim, mute me

14:11:30 [Zakim]

MacTed should now be muted

14:11:37 [martinAlvarez]

George: Should we accept the last meeting minutes

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s/minutes/minutes?

14:12:01 [bhyland]

+1

14:12:05 [Yigal]

+1

14:12:06 [gatemezi]

+1

14:12:28 [DruidSmith]

+1

14:12:36 [martinAlvarez]

Proposal: Accept the last-meeting minutes

14:12:50 [mhausenblas]

'/me'

14:13:06 [martinAlvarez]

Proposed: Accept the last-meeting minutes

14:13:40 [martinAlvarez]

RESOLUTION: Last-meeting minutes have been accepted

14:13:45 [ZacharyWhitley]

bhyland, the "How to join" link?

14:13:57 [Zakim]

+ +1.202.208.aahh

14:14:18 [mhausenblas]

ISSUE-1?

14:14:18 [trackbot]

ISSUE-1 -- Where should the BP cookbook go? -- open

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http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/1

14:14:48 [olyerickson]

Yes, looking at the issue...

14:16:07 [gatemezi]

+1 to host the BP cookbook as a wiki

14:16:09 [bhyland]

close: ISSUE-1

14:17:01 [martinAlvarez]

George: Bernadette a quick overview on Community Directory?

14:17:22 [martinAlvarez]

Bernadette: we had a call on Skype

14:17:31 [George]

close ISSUE-1

14:17:31 [trackbot]

ISSUE-1 Where should the BP cookbook go? closed

14:18:40 [martinAlvarez]

... We had a pilot on the Web

14:19:00 [martinAlvarez]

... please, if you are interested in take part, let me know

14:19:40 [martinAlvarez]

... I send an email to the list with the information

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-??P40

14:19:49 [George]

http://directory.3roundstones.net

14:20:00 [bhyland]

Topic: Community Directory prototype, http://directory.3roundstones.net/page/MainPage.xhtml?view

14:20:44 [tgheen]

I have not seen any emails, but I don't think I am an official participant

14:21:10 [toddpehle]

same for me

14:21:24 [ZacharyWhitley]

Same for me.

14:21:48 [ZacharyWhitley]

(from APL)

14:22:48 [George]

Dan BLS, Chris GSA, Tina NSF, Todd Orbis, Zack APL - need to finalize temp IE status for listserv inclusion

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ACTION: Dan BLS, Chris GSA, Tina NSF, Todd Orbis, Zack APL - need to finalize temp IE status for listserv inclusion

14:23:07 [trackbot]

Sorry, couldn't find user - Dan

14:23:13 [bhyland]

For those people who didn't receive an email from today, the above is the URL for the pre-release Community Directory prototype. I also asked people If thye'd like login credentials, please respond to team-gld-chairs at w3.org with your name & email & I'll compile a list and our support team will invite you.  Thanks.

14:24:11 [martinAlvarez]

Bernadette: Please, remember that there is a task force to gather requirements to the Comm. Directory

14:24:17 [cygri]

ACTION: George to finalize temp IE status for listserv inclusion for Dan BLS, Chris GSA, Tina NSF, Todd Orbis, Zack APL

14:24:17 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-2 - Finalize temp IE status for listserv inclusion for Dan BLS, Chris GSA, Tina NSF, Todd Orbis, Zack APL [on George Thomas - due 2011-08-11].

14:24:30 [cygri]

ACTION: bhyland to finalize temp IE status for listserv inclusion for Dan BLS, Chris GSA, Tina NSF, Todd Orbis, Zack APL

14:24:30 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-3 - Finalize temp IE status for listserv inclusion for Dan BLS, Chris GSA, Tina NSF, Todd Orbis, Zack APL [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-08-11].

14:24:31 [martinAlvarez]

... if anybody else would like to participate is welcome

14:24:33 [mhausenblas]

q+

14:24:50 [martinAlvarez]

... the list of the current participants in on the wiki.

14:24:58 [boris]

q?

14:25:31 [mhausenblas]

ack me

14:26:01 [martinAlvarez]

mhausenblas: I'll contribute

14:26:11 [cygri]

http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Statistical_Cube_Data

14:26:21 [mhausenblas]

s/I'll contribute/I'll contribute to the Community Directory

14:26:43 [martinAlvarez]

George: Richard has create a wiki page on Data Cube voc.

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+q

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RRSAgent, make logs public

14:29:50 [martinAlvarez]

George: Maybe to take some examples where the statistical data is used

14:30:05 [olyerickson]

I'm interested from the perspective of conversion

14:30:58 [martinAlvarez]

@@@: I like the idea of break the call to talk about the cases of using the data cube

14:31:36 [martinAlvarez]

... and in a theoretical perspective of the Cube vocabulary

14:31:49 [George]

ACTION: George to organize telecon with Zach, Dan, John, George, Richard for a Cube Vocab review

14:31:49 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-4 - Organize telecon with Zach, Dan, John, George, Richard for a Cube Vocab review [on George Thomas - due 2011-08-11].

14:32:22 [martinAlvarez]

George: We have some good examples from Epimorphics work

14:32:29 [George]

SemTech Epimorphics use of Cube

14:32:35 [cygri]

http://www.slideshare.net/der42/linked-data-hypercubes

14:33:05 [olyerickson]

cygri's preso is linked-to from the wiki already

14:33:31 [boris]

Asuncion

14:34:01 [martinAlvarez]

George: Move on to Gov Ontology Metadata works

14:34:37 [martinAlvarez]

s/@@@/Dan

14:35:26 [martinAlvarez]

Dan: I would like to take part in this Open Government Vocabulary

14:36:10 [martinAlvarez]

... Should we suggest @@@ to take part in this task force?

14:36:48 [mhausenblas]

Michael: No, Mondeca is not a member of the GLD WG

14:36:50 [olyerickson]

I would like to be part of this vocab-of-vocabs discussion as well

14:36:55 [martinAlvarez]

Dan: I work with you to get the names of the people interested

14:37:02 [martinAlvarez]

s/@@@/Mondeca

14:39:29 [gatemezi]

I am also interested with this topic, and since I can discuss directly with the guys of Mondeca, "indirectly" they will be present :-)

14:40:30 [martinAlvarez]

George: John Sheridan has volunteered to help in procurement

14:40:31 [olyerickson]

Do we define "CO" (Contracting Officer) somewhere?

14:40:52 [martinAlvarez]

... anyone from the UK National Archives to contribute

14:41:10 [martinAlvarez]

... to create a CO's Guide to 5-Star Data

14:41:20 [bhyland]

q+

14:42:00 [mhausenblas]

q?

14:42:25 [olyerickson]

My point was that we need to be sure to break out terms-of-art where they appear

14:42:34 [George]

understood JE

14:42:40 [olyerickson]

Thanks!

14:42:43 [martinAlvarez]

Bernadette: Please, if anyone is interested in the call, go to the wiki and register

14:42:53 [Zakim]

+ +1.703.362.aaii

14:43:15 [martinAlvarez]

... OPSI may be interested

14:43:50 [martinAlvarez]

Subtopic: WG Charter 3.1 production schedule

14:44:25 [martinAlvarez]

George: Community Directory is going pretty well

14:45:12 [martinAlvarez]

Bernadette: We are evolving the Community Directory wiki

14:45:16 [bhyland]

Topic: LD Cookbook, very early stage cookbook may be found on http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.7_Linked_Data_Cookbook

14:46:00 [martinAlvarez]

Richard: Boris was proposed as editor

14:46:36 [martinAlvarez]

Bernadette: the whole list of contributors is in the wiki page

14:46:38 [mhausenblas]

s/Richard:/Michael:

14:47:06 [olyerickson]

FYI, John Erickson's name is mis-spelled on the "best practices summary" http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary

14:47:24 [bhyland]

The list of people who've indicated interest in working on Best Practices may be found on http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#Interested_in_working_on_this

14:47:38 [Cory]

I still have to get it in my head what the nature and scope of the deliverable may be - examples would help

14:48:42 [martinAlvarez]

Michael: Should we edit the specific actions for anyone in the section?

14:50:22 [martinAlvarez]

... Bernadette, Boris, and myself Boris will motivate the rest and joining pieces

14:51:15 [George]

q?

14:51:20 [mhausenblas]

http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter

14:51:29 [George]

q- ZacharyWhitley

14:51:38 [George]

q- bhyland

14:51:40 [bhyland]

q- bhyland

14:53:33 [olyerickson]

q?

14:53:52 [mhausenblas]

q?

14:54:12 [George]

q?

14:54:34 [George]

q+ olyerickson

14:54:38 [George]

ack olyerickson

14:54:48 [George]

?

14:55:37 [bhyland]

http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Main_Page

14:55:37 [mhausenblas]

q+ to say something more about the ED on Best Practices

14:55:40 [mhausenblas]

q?

14:56:07 [mhausenblas]

ack me

14:56:07 [Zakim]

mhausenblas, you wanted to say something more about the ED on Best Practices

14:57:40 [George]

q?

14:58:07 [martinAlvarez]

Michael: We should use common practices and clean the texts from different contributors

14:58:16 [ZacharyWhitley]

q?

14:58:47 [martinAlvarez]

George: Any comment for the next agenda?

14:59:47 [martinAlvarez]

... Some more standard vocabularies, like dcat

15:00:18 [mhausenblas]

Michael: I disagree - we *do* do set standards

15:00:27 [martinAlvarez]

Michael: We shouldn't use the word "standard"

15:00:32 [George]

+1 MH

15:00:34 [George]

http://www.w3.org/TR/void/

15:00:38 [MacTed]

Zakim, unmute me

15:00:39 [George]

a standard?

15:00:41 [MacTed]

q+

15:00:51 [Zakim]

MacTed should no longer be muted

15:00:55 [olyerickson]

Note to leaders: I too appear to have access problems with the Wiki...Sees me as logged-in user but I don't see "edit" options etc... please advise...

15:00:56 [mhausenblas]

Michael: We write specifications that we hope to become a standard

15:01:06 [martinAlvarez]

... We could say recommended practices, or consensus BP, etc.

15:01:07 [mhausenblas]

martinAlvarez - I said the exact opposite!

15:01:09 [cygri]

martinAlvarez, this was Dan speaking, not mhausenblas

15:01:34 [bhyland]

+1 MacTed

15:01:41 [martinAlvarez]

s/shouldn't use/should use

15:01:59 [cygri]

q+

15:02:14 [mhausenblas]

q+ to comment on scribing

15:02:16 [George]

q?

15:02:32 [martinAlvarez]

s/Michael/Dan

15:02:35 [mhausenblas]

ack MacTed

15:02:43 [mhausenblas]

ack cygri

15:02:58 [MacTed]

ack me

15:03:02 [cygri]

ack me

15:03:29 [MacTed]

I must now jump to another call...

15:04:03 [mhausenblas]

q?

15:04:06 [Zakim]

-MacTed

15:04:07 [mhausenblas]

ack me

15:04:37 [mhausenblas]

ack me

15:04:37 [George]

scribe should capture that MH says yes to 'standard' and RC says 'recommendation' :)

15:04:41 [Zakim]

mhausenblas, you wanted to comment on scribing

15:04:43 [cygri]

cygri: W3C officially only publishes "W3C recommendations", not "standards"

15:04:49 [mhausenblas]

ack me

15:05:01 [mhausenblas]

Michael: I agree with Richard

15:05:15 [boris]

thanks

15:05:16 [boris]

bye

15:05:24 [olyerickson]

Bye

15:05:25 [agmezpre]

bye

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-toddpehle

15:05:35 [bhyland]

@olyerickson, I'll send you email

15:05:39 [Zakim]

-Mike

15:05:41 [Zakim]

- +1.202.691.aabb

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-mhausenblas

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- +1.518.276.aagg

15:05:46 [cygri]

martinAlvarez, don't worry! great job scribing!

15:05:47 [Zakim]

- +1.540.898.aaff

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- +1.202.208.aahh

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- +1.267.481.aacc

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-ZacharyWhitley

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-George

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-Yigal

15:06:09 [gatemezi]

thanks to all. Bye

15:06:17 [Zakim]

-boris

15:06:19 [Zakim]

-TGheen

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-martinAlvarez

15:06:28 [Zakim]

-DruidSmith

15:06:29 [cygri]

martinAlvarez, regarding publishing the minutes, you might find this helpful: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Jul/0011.html

15:06:35 [Zakim]

- +1.703.362.aaii

15:06:41 [Zakim]

T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

15:06:43 [Zakim]

Attendees were TGheen, ZacharyWhitley, DruidSmith, George, +1.540.898.aaaa, +1.202.691.aabb, +1.267.481.aacc, +1.202.566.aadd, +1.540.898.aaff, boris, +1.518.276.aagg, Yigal,

15:06:46 [Zakim]

... mhausenblas, cygri, toddpehle, martinAlvarez, MacTed, Mike, +1.202.208.aahh, +1.703.362.aaii

15:06:55 [cygri]

and yeah, scribing is really hard in the beginning when you don't know the voices yet

15:07:17 [gatemezi]

zakem, -gatemezi

15:07:27 [martinAlvarez]

RRSAgent, make logs public

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any1 stil around ?

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