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21:30:15 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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21:30:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
21:30:17 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(A11Y)5:30PM scheduled to start now
21:30:18 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
21:30:18 <trackbot> Date: 27 July 2011
21:30:30 <janina> zakim, who's here?
21:30:30 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(A11Y)5:30PM has not yet started, janina
21:30:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, janina, JF, silvia, MichaelC, trackbot, [tm]
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21:34:54 <silvia> zakim, mute me
21:34:54 <Zakim> sorry, silvia, I don't know what conference this is
21:35:57 <janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon
21:35:57 <janina> Chair:  John_Foliot
21:35:57 <janina> Scribe: Janina_Sajka
21:35:57 <janina> agenda: this
21:35:57 <janina> agenda+ Proposed LC Bugs http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Jul/0114.html
21:35:57 <janina> agenda+ Other Business?
21:35:59 <janina> agenda+ be done
21:36:01 <janina>  
21:36:04 <silvia> zakim, start teleconference
21:36:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'start teleconference', silvia
21:36:32 <silvia> trackbot, start meeting
21:36:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
21:36:36 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
21:36:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(A11Y)5:30PM scheduled to start 6 minutes ago
21:36:37 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
21:36:37 <trackbot> Date: 27 July 2011
21:36:42 <silvia> zakim, mute me
21:36:42 <Zakim> sorry, silvia, I don't know what conference this is
21:36:56 <janina> zakim, this will be 2119
21:36:56 <Zakim> ok, janina; I see WAI_PFWG(A11Y)5:30PM scheduled to start 6 minutes ago
21:37:03 <silvia> zakim, mute me
21:37:03 <Zakim> sorry, silvia, I don't know what conference this is
21:37:48 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
21:37:48 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Proposed LC Bugs http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Jul/0114.html" taken up [from janina]
21:38:40 <silvia> zakim, who is here
21:38:40 <Zakim> silvia, you need to end that query with '?'
21:38:48 <silvia> zakim, who is here?
21:38:48 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(A11Y)5:30PM has not yet started, silvia
21:38:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see frankolivier, Zakim, RRSAgent, janina, JF, silvia, MichaelC, trackbot, [tm]
21:40:55 <janina> general discussion to accept Geoff's refinements as amended by Silvia
21:41:04 <janina> JF will file bugs, each individually
21:47:24 <janina> Silvia will file our bug relating to making audio accessible. Basically, recast it as video in order to take advantage of the provided view port for captions and/or sign translation.
21:49:37 <janina> Now discussion of placement of text overlays
21:50:08 <janina> We'll change "over" to "overlay" in the email comments
21:50:19 <janina> Display should "overlay" the video
21:53:50 <janina> jf: Are there other bugs we're aware need filing?
21:54:07 <janina> janina: Not yet, unless from our open issues re navigation and poster
21:54:26 <janina> janina: We do have one more week, and could even meet again next week should anything emerge.
21:56:10 <janina> fo: Believe Sean has an example he sent out sometime ago, with several levels that can be used, forward and back
21:56:33 <janina> sp: This was put in a bug with ref to the email
21:57:22 <janina> sp: IAccessible2 has decided to do extended text descriptions as ARIA-LiveRegion
21:59:23 <janina> jf: Is live regions covered by all the APIs we need?
21:59:51 <janina> janina: Yes, because the APIs are supporting ARIA; UIAutomation, IAccessible2, ATK/AT-SPI, and Mac
22:01:39 <janina> SP: Think we don't need to schedule telecons unless issues come up
22:01:42 <janina> jf: Agree
22:01:44 <janina> janina: agree
22:02:32 <janina> jf: Notes that we do need to track the progress of our bugs
22:04:10 <janina> janina: Noting that PF is moving to create a W3C notes from our Media User Requirements
22:04:28 <janina> janina: short uri will end " media-a11y-reqs" for the time being, at least
22:05:23 <janina> SP and FO noting that other W3C work is forming where we have a11y concerns, but that this effort is pretty well done
22:05:57 <janina> Discussion in favor of a W3C Web VTT spec
22:06:33 <janina> sp: Noting an Open Video conference in NYC in September
22:07:30 <JF> http://openvideoconference.org/
22:07:30 <janina> sp: openvideoconference.org i think
22:08:44 <janina> janina: Noting this is a week ahead of the W3C TV and Web conference in Hollywood
22:09:06 <janina> scribe: janina
22:11:40 <janina> discussion of drm and extensibility mechanisms
22:17:34 <janina> janina: Notes that DAISY solved DRM, where needed, by relying on ODRL
22:18:37 <janina> janina: ODRL is public/private key
22:18:47 <janina> janina: It's fully open and based on W3C
22:19:50 <janina> janina: I bleieve it's also used in the U.S. for K-12 textbooks
22:20:19 <janina> janina: Used at BookShare.org
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22:25:20 <janina> adjourning media
22:25:33 <janina> zakim, bye
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22:25:45 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes public
22:25:45 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', janina.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
22:25:52 <janina> rrsagent, make log public
22:25:58 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
22:25:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/27-html-a11y-minutes.html janina