02:08:17 MikeSmith has joined #html-a11y 02:44:23 dboudreau has joined #html-a11y 06:07:41 silvia has joined #html-a11y 06:24:48 MikeSmith_ has joined #html-a11y 07:44:43 Zakim has left #html-a11y 09:44:36 MikeSmith has joined #html-a11y 15:01:25 RRSAgent has joined #html-a11y 15:01:25 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-html-a11y-irc 15:01:27 RRSAgent, make logs world 15:01:27 Zakim has joined #html-a11y 15:01:29 Zakim, this will be 2119 15:01:30 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference 15:01:30 Date: 21 July 2011 15:01:35 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now 15:01:43 Zakim, call Mike 15:01:53 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 15:03:45 zakim, this is 2119 15:03:50 Zakim, call Mike 15:04:09 Joshue has joined #html-a11y 15:04:12 once again zakim craps out for this call 15:04:17 zakim, drop mike 15:04:28 ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM 15:04:32 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 15:04:33 zakim, who's on the phone? 15:04:33 Zakim, call Mike-goog 15:04:34 +Mike 15:04:37 +??P1 15:04:48 Mike is being disconnected 15:04:50 -Mike 15:04:54 Zakim, drop Mike 15:05:02 On the phone I see Rich, JF, ??P46, Michael_Cooper, ??P1 15:05:04 Zakim, call Mike-goog 15:05:04 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 15:05:06 +Mike 15:05:24 Mike is being disconnected 15:05:30 -Mike 15:05:35 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 15:05:39 +Mike 15:05:40 I seem to be having audio problems and may need to restart my PC 15:05:45 zakim, ??P46 is Rich_Schwerdtfeger 15:05:57 zakim, ??P1 is Janina_Sajka 15:05:58 +Rich_Schwerdtfeger; got it 15:06:00 -Mike 15:06:02 lwatson has joined #html-a11y 15:06:14 +Janina_Sajka; got it 15:06:26 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Jul/0117.html 15:06:36 regrets: Laura_Carlson, Joshue_O'Connor 15:07:24 chair: Mike_Smith 15:07:56 MikeSmith has joined #html-a11y 15:09:04 zakim, who's here? 15:09:04 On the phone I see Rich, JF, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Michael_Cooper, Janina_Sajka 15:09:06 On IRC I see MikeSmith, Joshue, Zakim, RRSAgent, JF, richardschwerdtfe, judy, davidb, MichaelC, janina, trackbot, [tm] 15:09:17 Zakim, call Mike-goog 15:09:17 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 15:09:19 +Mike 15:10:05 q? 15:10:48 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Spec_Review 15:11:06 +Cynthia_Shelly 15:11:51 LJW has joined #html-a11y 15:12:28 scribe: MikeSmith 15:12:36 Topic: LC review status 15:13:31 richardschwerdtfe: there are some issues with the Editing section 15:13:42 … will be sending some comments on those 15:13:57 richardschwerdtfe: been talking with Janina and will be getting some other IBM people to review 15:15:05 MikeSmith: richardschwerdtfe, would be great if you could update the row for the Editing section in http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Spec_Review 15:15:09 Marco_Ranon has joined #html-a11y 15:15:13 For the record, I have finished my review assignments. I may have some bandwidth to look at some other aspects of the spec - if anyone wants some help please ping me. 15:15:22 JF: I need to look at document metadata 15:15:35 … and have signed up for a review for the Obsolete features 15:16:00 JF: btw, Chaals was not aware he had been given assignments 15:16:14 … and nobody has yet asked Chaals to review 15:16:24 … though he is willing to do the review 15:16:43 … so should e-mail him to let him know 15:17:00 janina: I may have missed him in the batch of mail I sent 15:17:16 JF: … or Chaals may have missed your message 15:17:29 +??P34 15:17:29 JF: but he will get it processed if you (re)mail him 15:17:42 zakim, ??P34 is me 15:17:42 +Marco_Ranon; got it 15:17:47 zakim, mute me 15:17:47 Marco_Ranon should now be muted 15:19:19 janina: got a message from Greg Lowny, he found that when he followed some links from the TR WD, it took him to the ED 15:23:57 MikeSmith: can't reproduce that 15:24:13 RRSAgent, make minutes 15:24:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith 15:24:31 janina: about the other part of his question, will ask that on the HTML WG today 15:25:19 MikeSmith: any suggestions about what we could ask Joshue to look at 15:25:59 Cynthia: did we schedule a long call? 15:26:03 janina: not yet 15:26:15 MikeSmith: we should do that on this call today 15:28:43 Cynthia: could use some help with the ones that I been planning on getting Microsoft review for 15:29:51 MikeSmith: those are: Structure, Syntax, SVG, Scripting, MathML 15:30:50 Joshue, can you agree to reviewing the Scripting sections? 15:31:23 as well as any of those other ones? 15:31:28 No worries Mike 15:31:36 Joshue, thanks 15:31:51 Cynthia: What about Charles Pritchard? 15:31:52 I'll take scripting, may need some help with that as I'm not a big script monkey 15:32:21 JF: Charles is busy with canvas 15:32:28 It's Lynn Holdsworth for scriptin. She can't be on the call today. 15:33:44 MikeSmith: would be good to get some more eyes on that Scripting section 15:34:10 [discussing possible people] 15:34:20 janina: I will ask David Bolter and Chaals 15:34:25 RRSAgent, make minutes 15:34:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith 15:35:42 Topic: scheduling long call for LC review 15:35:52 MichaelC: we only had 8 people respond 15:39:40 6 15:40:09 MichaelC: 11am Boston to 3pm Boston time on July 28 15:41:16 Topic: Subteam updates 15:41:53 richardschwerdtfe: for canvas subteam, news is that we have a patch for Webkit, some movement from Mozilla 15:42:32 … will write a change proposal, also start working on writing up refinement of previous spec 15:42:49 JF: for media subteam, we have some issues that are kind of dangling 15:43:14 … about hierarchical navigation 15:43:23 janina: we are waiting for implementations to play with on that 15:43:52 JF: another case is what to do when your descriptive audio is longer than the alloteed time 15:44:01 … how to control the timeline 15:44:14 … comes down to, we have to pause the video to get everything synched 15:44:22 … I think we are on the same page for that 15:44:34 JF: other outstanding issue is poster als 15:44:38 s/als/alt/ 15:44:50 JF: I have a formal objection on that 15:45:11 JF: Silvia believes aria-describedby is a solution for this 15:45:49 JF: I don't think we are going to see the browsers will come up with a mechanism that takes that non-visible content and make it visible 15:46:03 JF: this is related to other alternative-text stuff 15:46:19 janina: in that instance, we are also waiting for a proof of concept 15:46:45 … from the requirements side, we have made it clear that we need for the markup to be preserved 15:46:59 janina: so we are in a holding pattern on that 15:47:48 JF: we did have a bit of breakthrough in that Sylvia agrees that we need two textual descriptions 15:48:18 janina: for the text subteam, we met this week and we asked people to focus on LC review 15:49:02 janina: we met with Paul a week ago, and agreed that yes indeed the priority is bugs for August 3rd 15:49:24 … JF has writing up a detailed response for Jonas on longdesc 15:49:46 … trying to make a sort of standard, well-formed response to some questions that keep coming up 15:50:13 … for lack of better term, position papers 15:50:21 RRSAgent, make minutes 15:50:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith 15:50:38 zakim, unmute me 15:50:38 Marco_Ranon should no longer be muted 15:50:45 MikeSmith: bug triage subteam? 15:51:04 janina: I need to talk with LJW about that 15:51:48 janina: LJW, wanted to know if you would be wiling to be the facilitator for the bug-triage subteam 15:52:03 LJW: maybe we could talk more about it offline 15:52:23 janina: [gives a description of the duties involved] 15:53:03 MikeSmith: so next step is to have an offline discussion with LJW about it 15:53:17 zakim, mute me 15:53:17 Marco_Ranon should now be muted 15:53:59 MikeSmith: what about ARIA Mappings subteam 15:54:15 Cynthia: Steve has not been available at our regular time, is away on vacation 15:54:28 … we have also been working on the ARIA implementation guide 15:54:55 … has been sitting on the back burner for longer than I'd like, will get with Steve about it when he gets back 15:56:11 Topic: Scribe volunteers for next week's call 15:56:35 MikeSmith: we have Marco_Ranon, JF, Cynthia, MichaelC 15:56:50 MikeSmith: any other business? 15:57:03 zakim, unmute me 15:57:03 Marco_Ranon should no longer be muted 15:57:06 -Cynthia_Shelly 15:57:06 adjourned 15:57:07 -Janina_Sajka 15:57:08 -JF 15:57:11 -Michael_Cooper 15:57:15 -Rich_Schwerdtfeger 15:57:15 richardschwerdtfe has left #html-a11y 15:57:16 -Marco_Ranon 15:57:18 -Mike 15:57:21 janina has left #html-a11y 16:05:01 disconnecting the lone participant, Rich, in WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM 16:05:03 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended 16:05:05 Attendees were Rich, JF, Mike, Michael_Cooper, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Janina_Sajka, Cynthia_Shelly, Marco_Ranon 16:05:16 RRSAgent, make minutes 16:05:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith 17:23:57 davidb has joined #html-a11y 18:01:43 judy has joined #html-a11y 18:24:51 Zakim has left #html-a11y 18:40:02 MikeSmith_ has joined #html-a11y