IRC log of rd on 2011-07-14

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7394
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
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Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 14 July 2011
14:55:03 [sharper]
Agenda+ Welcome
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Agenda+ Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)
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Agenda+ Round the table introductions - each participant introduces themselves briefly
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Agenda+ EU Coordinated Action (CARDIAC) Report - SH
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Agenda+ Revisit research topics - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki
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Agenda+ Evaluation as our First Topic? As discussed, this is a good timing to do something that would feed into the newly launched W3C/WAI Evaluation TF <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/eval-tf>, which in turn would feed into the EC Mandate 376 work on accessible ICT procurement. In other words, RDWG work in this field would have significant impact. - SH/SAZ
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Agenda+ Any Other Business
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zakim, save agenda
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ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-agenda.rdf
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rrsagent, make logs public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
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regrets+ Conway_Vivienne
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regrets+ Lopes_Rui
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regrets+ Mehta_Arun
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regrets+ McCathieNevile_Charles
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regrets+ Miesenberge_Klaus
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
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present+ Harper_Simon
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chair: Harper_Simon
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
14:57:33 [markel]
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WAI_RDWG()11:00AM has now started
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+??P24
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zakim, ??P24 is sharper
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+sharper; got it
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zakim, code?
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the conference code is 7394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), sharper
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+??P26
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-sharper
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+sharper
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zakim, ??P26 is markel
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+markel; got it
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zakim mute
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zakim, who's here?
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zakim mute markel
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On the phone I see sharper, markel
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zakim, mute markel
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On IRC I see markel, Zakim, RRSAgent, sharper, Mate, nonge__, trackbot
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markel should now be muted
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see sharper, markel (muted)
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On IRC I see markel, Zakim, RRSAgent, sharper, Mate, nonge__, trackbot
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zakim, unmute markel
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markel should no longer be muted
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zakim, who is phone?
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zakim, who is on the phone?
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+Shadi
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I don't understand your question, shadi.
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On the phone I see sharper, markel, Shadi
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/
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present+ Vigo_Markel
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present+ Yesilada_Yeliz
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present+ Abou-Zahra_Shadi
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
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+[IPcaller]
15:14:04 [yeliz]
zakim, [IPcaller] is yeliz
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+yeliz; got it
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zakim, mute me
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yeliz should now be muted
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scribe: Harper_Simon
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ScribeNick: sharper
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topic: Evaluation topic - what to do first
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zakim, unmute me
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yeliz should no longer be muted
15:17:35 [sharper]
SH: maybe editors should propose a topic taking into account parts or all of variuous wiki topics
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s/variuous/various
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+??P36
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zakim, ??P36 is Brajnik_Giorgio
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+Brajnik_Giorgio; got it
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SAZ: Don't want to direct this group based on the needs of the Evaluation group - which is Benchmarking
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-yeliz
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+??P53
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zakim, ??P53 is yeliz
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+yeliz; got it
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
15:28:05 [yeliz]
I agree with Shadi
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discussing in the mailing list would be good
15:31:30 [yeliz]
zakim, unmute yeliz
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yeliz should no longer be muted
15:32:10 [shadi]
q+
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ack me
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
15:38:56 [yeliz]
Ranking is a good idea
15:39:38 [sharper]
+1
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+1
15:40:15 [yeliz]
mailing list, survey, ranking is a good idea - this would involve all members of the group
15:41:35 [yeliz]
I am sure when we start working on one topic, new topics will come up
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and we can continue to improve/extend the list
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Category:Evaluation
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Category:Evaluation
15:43:51 [markel]
before we run the survey why we don't we ask members of the group to write in the wiki list of research challenges and wish-list of each topic -as a way to foster implication of members-
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and then run the survey
15:44:57 [yeliz]
+1 Shadi
15:45:11 [markel]
b/c some of them are quite incomplete to have an idea to rank them
15:45:46 [shadi]
"evaluation - testing - conformance testing - conformity assessement"
15:45:47 [yeliz]
sounds good to me
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I agree with Simon as well
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I agree
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zakim, unmute yeliz
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yeliz should no longer be muted
15:50:59 [markel]
agree with yeliz
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+1
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+1
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
15:53:37 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/showwb
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zakim, unmute yeliz
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yeliz should no longer be muted
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
15:58:31 [yeliz]
ohh yes
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:)
15:58:42 [markel]
indeed
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zakim, unmute yeliz
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yeliz should no longer be muted
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
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\me byee
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-markel
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-yeliz
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-Shadi
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-sharper
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-Brajnik_Giorgio
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WAI_RDWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were sharper, markel, Shadi, yeliz, Brajnik_Giorgio
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trackbot, end meeting
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Zakim, list attendees
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sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html trackbot
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see no action items