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14:41:50 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:41:50 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 19 minutes
14:41:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:41:51 <trackbot> Date: 07 July 2011
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14:52:07 <sharper> zakim, code?
14:52:07 <Zakim> the conference code is 7394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), sharper
14:52:42 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()11:00AM has now started
14:52:49 <Zakim> +??P10
14:52:59 <sharper> zakim, ??P10 is sharper
14:53:04 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
14:56:14 <sharper> zakim, agenda?
14:56:14 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
14:56:37 <Zakim> +??P43
14:56:40 <Zakim> -sharper
14:56:42 <Zakim> +sharper
14:56:44 <sharper> rrsagent, make logs public
14:56:44 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rd-minutes.html sharper
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14:58:27 <sharper> Agenda+ Welcome 
14:58:42 <sharper> Agenda+ Round the table introductions - each participant introduces themselves briefly
14:59:02 <sharper> Agenda+ Reminder of meeting logistics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/process  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/planning 
14:59:15 <sharper> Agenda+ Brainstorming research topics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki
14:59:27 <sharper> Agenda+ Topics for further expansion - any volunteers to further expand any topics?
14:59:50 <sharper> Agenda+ Upcoming meeting schedule - Thursday 14 July, 2011 - Thursday 21 July, 2011 - Thursday 28 July, 2011 - Thursday 4 August, 2011
14:59:59 <km> km has joined #rd
15:00:00 <sharper> zakim, save agenda
15:00:07 <Zakim> ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rd-agenda.rdf
15:00:20 <sharper> zakim, take up item 1
15:00:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome" taken up [from sharper]
15:00:34 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:00:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rd-minutes.html sharper
15:01:59 <sharper> zakim, ??P43 is km
15:02:14 <Zakim> +??P56
15:02:19 <Zakim> +km; got it
15:02:22 <km> yes, I entered as KM
15:02:40 <sharper> zakim, ??P56 is shadi
15:03:12 <Zakim> + +33.4.78.41.aaaa
15:03:16 <Zakim> +shadi; got it
15:04:12 <sharper> scribe: Harper_Simon
15:04:12 <sharper> ScribeNick: sharper
15:05:19 <Zakim> +??P73
15:06:35 <yeliz> yeliz has joined #rd
15:06:36 <Zakim> +??P69
15:07:13 <Joshue> Joshue has joined #rd
15:07:14 <sharper> zakim, ??P73 is yeliz
15:07:36 <Zakim> +yeliz; got it
15:07:39 <yeliz> zakim, mute me
15:07:54 <Zakim> yeliz should now be muted
15:08:29 <Zakim> +??P18
15:08:42 <shadi> shadi has joined #rd
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15:09:32 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:09:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see sharper, km, shadi, +33.4.78.41.aaaa, yeliz (muted), ??P69, ??P18
15:10:03 <Zakim> + +35346907aabb
15:10:21 <Mate> Mate has joined #rd
15:10:31 <Joshue> zakim,++353* is Joshue
15:10:31 <Zakim> sorry, Joshue, I do not recognize a party named '++353*'
15:10:40 <arun> echo...
15:10:56 <shadi> zakim, ??69 is Arun
15:10:56 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named '??69'
15:10:57 <Joshue> zakim, +35346907aabb is Joshue
15:10:58 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
15:11:09 <Mate> Mate Pataki
15:11:13 <sharper> zakim, who is making noise?
15:11:16 <shadi> zakim, ??18 is Mate
15:11:16 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named '??18'
15:11:23 <Zakim> sharper, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: sharper (29%), Joshue (33%), shadi (29%), ??P69 (4%)
15:11:34 <Joshue> zakim, mute me
15:11:34 <Zakim> Joshue should now be muted
15:11:40 <arun> I am using skype out, so no idea what the ??69 is either
15:11:43 <shadi> zakim, ??p18 is Mate
15:11:44 <Zakim> +Mate; got it
15:12:32 <shadi> zakim, ??aaaa is Benoit
15:12:32 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named '??aaaa'
15:12:47 <arun> echo...
15:13:52 <shadi> zakim, mute mate
15:13:52 <Zakim> Mate should now be muted
15:14:10 <shadi> zakim, unmute mate
15:14:10 <Zakim> Mate should no longer be muted
15:14:27 <shadi> agenda?
15:15:10 <sharper> zakim, close item 1
15:15:10 <Zakim> agendum 1, Welcome, closed
15:15:11 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:15:12 <Zakim> 2. Round the table introductions - each participant introduces themselves briefly [from sharper]
15:15:19 <sharper> zakim, take up item 2
15:15:19 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Round the table introductions - each participant introduces themselves briefly" taken up [from sharper]
15:15:46 <sharper> Shadi Introduces that he is the staff contact
15:16:27 <yeliz> Simon is introducing himself, he is from University of Manchester and he will be chairing the working group
15:16:33 <sharper> Simon Harper Chair from Manchester
15:16:35 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:16:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see sharper, km, shadi, +33.4.78.41.aaaa (muted), yeliz (muted), ??P69, Mate, Joshue (muted)
15:17:01 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is Benoit
15:17:01 <Zakim> +Benoit; got it
15:17:14 <sharper> Klaus M from University of Linz - eAccess+ project maybe useful 
15:18:29 <arun> who is the current speaker?
15:18:40 <sharper> Benoit, University of Lyon - online video accessibility for sensory disability
15:18:44 <yeliz> zakim, unmute me
15:18:44 <Zakim> yeliz should no longer be muted
15:19:10 <shadi> zakim, ??p69 is Arun
15:19:10 <Zakim> +Arun; got it
15:19:23 <sharper> Yeliz, Middle Eastern Technical University  - Web Accessibility for Blind users - previously in EOWG
15:19:30 <yeliz> zakim, mute me
15:19:30 <Zakim> yeliz should now be muted
15:20:54 <Joshue> Arun, could you please put that URL into IRC?
15:21:01 <sharper> Arun, New Delhi - NGO Bi-Directional Access to Information Soc. 
15:21:13 <Mate> Máté, MTA SZTAKI (Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Computer and Automation Research Institute), W3C Hungarian Office coordinator
15:21:48 <arun> bapsi.org
15:21:49 <sharper> Mate, Hungarian Office of W3C - Accessibility Coordinator
15:21:50 <Joshue> zakim, unmute me
15:21:54 <arun> skid.org.in
15:21:56 <Zakim> Joshue should no longer be muted
15:22:37 <shadi> regrets: Markel
15:22:37 <sharper> Josh, NCBI Ireland - Senior Accessibility Consultant
15:23:29 <Joshue> thanks Arun!
15:23:51 <sharper> zakim, close item 2
15:23:51 <Zakim> agendum 2, Round the table introductions - each participant introduces themselves briefly, closed
15:23:53 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:23:54 <Zakim> 3. Reminder of meeting logistics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/process  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/planning [from sharper]
15:23:57 <sharper> zakim, take up item 3
15:23:59 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Reminder of meeting logistics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/process  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/planning" taken up [from sharper]
15:24:32 <sharper> SAZ: discusses logistics for the group
15:24:57 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:24:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rd-minutes.html sharper
15:26:10 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/process
15:26:17 <Joshue> How to use IRC - http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
15:27:54 <sharper> SAZ: Covers each new page closing with the planning document
15:29:00 <Joshue> zakim, mute me
15:29:00 <Zakim> Joshue should now be muted
15:29:08 <shadi> q+
15:29:23 <shadi> ack
15:29:31 <shadi> ack shadi
15:30:38 <sharper> zakim, close item 3
15:30:38 <Zakim> agendum 3, Reminder of meeting logistics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/process  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/planning, closed
15:30:40 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:30:42 <Zakim> 4. Brainstorming research topics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki [from sharper]
15:30:46 <sharper> zakim, take up item 4
15:30:46 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Brainstorming research topics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki" taken up [from sharper]
15:31:27 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/
15:31:42 <sharper> zakim, who is making noise?
15:31:53 <Zakim> sharper, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
15:32:25 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Template
15:35:27 <sharper> SAZ: Points to http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Authoring_Accessibility to describe the wiki process
15:36:19 <sharper> ...and http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Easy_to_Read
15:37:53 <Joshue>  SH: The more topics that we find on the wiki, we can use that as a point of reference for future work etc.
15:37:55 <Joshue> SH: Anything you want to look at further please do add.
15:38:55 <sharper> SAZ: also immediate outcomes http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Web_Page_Sampling
15:39:09 <Zakim> -Mate
15:39:15 <Mate> sorry I have to leave you now, I will read the minutes
15:41:05 <sharper> SAZ: any clarifications required?
15:41:10 <sharper> None
15:41:49 <sharper> SAZ: any access problems - can everyone use the wiki?
15:42:02 <Joshue> Yup, can get in fine.
15:42:32 <Zakim> -yeliz
15:42:37 <sharper> zakim, close item 4
15:42:37 <Zakim> agendum 4, Brainstorming research topics  - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki, closed
15:42:42 <yeliz> I also get in fine
15:42:44 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:42:45 <Zakim> 5. Topics for further expansion - any volunteers to further expand any topics? [from sharper]
15:42:46 <sharper> zakim, take up item 5
15:42:46 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Topics for further expansion - any volunteers to further expand any topics?" taken up [from sharper]
15:43:08 <sharper> SAZ: Any additional Thoughts?
15:43:12 <Joshue> zakim, unmute me
15:43:12 <Zakim> Joshue should no longer be muted
15:43:13 <Joshue> Q+
15:43:27 <sharper> ack joshue
15:43:32 <Zakim> +??P6
15:43:41 <yeliz> zakim, +??P6 is yeliz
15:43:41 <Zakim> sorry, yeliz, I do not recognize a party named '+??P6'
15:43:52 <yeliz> zakim, ??P6 is yeliz
15:43:52 <Zakim> +yeliz; got it
15:44:01 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
15:44:01 <Zakim> yeliz should now be muted
15:44:02 <sharper> JO: Has Gestural stuff been added yet?
15:44:23 <sharper> SAZ: not yet - but in charter - maybe nee more specific topics in the field
15:44:57 <sharper> JO: Mobile Accessibility is of particular interest - iPhone + voiceover looks really good
15:45:18 <sharper> JO: Would like to look at mobile accessibility
15:45:56 <sharper> SAZ: many aspects - customisation, interfacer, gestural, APIs, etc - could be broken down into individual parts
15:46:20 <sharper> SAZ: AM works in this with larger screens I think
15:46:45 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
15:46:45 <Zakim> yeliz should no longer be muted
15:47:26 <sharper> JO: Web Events working Group may back this up - re events and their interaction - cross-fertilisation work
15:47:44 <sharper> SAZ: JO please add and expand this.
15:47:51 <Joshue> zakim, mute me
15:47:51 <Zakim> Joshue should now be muted
15:48:45 <sharper> YY: Are we going to focus on just Web Accessibility or general accessibility but could be useful for the Web?
15:48:56 <sharper> YY: gives an Affective computing example
15:49:03 <sharper> SAZ: Both ways
15:49:28 <sharper> SH: I'd agree with this and there should be cross-pollination
15:49:49 <sharper> SAZ+SH: Lets be open minded about this
15:50:38 <sharper> YY: Mobile accessibility is very broad - different slightly from Mobile Web Accessibility
15:50:45 <sharper> SAZ: Don't feel constrained
15:51:20 <sharper> SAZ: lets just add topics and see what we get with no hard exclusions
15:51:20 <yeliz> zakim, mute me
15:51:20 <Zakim> yeliz should now be muted
15:52:26 <sharper> AM: Would like to start looking at the wiki before adding topics but some thoughts...
15:52:52 <Joshue> I've got to go, I'll track minutes etc. Bye
15:53:02 <sharper> AM: starting from info in / info out - assumptions made about the user - 
15:53:17 <Zakim> -Joshue
15:54:08 <sharper> AM: the way the user wishes to consume data may not be as the browser presents it
15:57:02 <km> my microphone seems to have problems
15:57:32 <sharper> zakim, close item 6
15:57:32 <Zakim> agendum 6, Upcoming meeting schedule - Thursday 14 July, 2011 - Thursday 21 July, 2011 - Thursday 28 July, 2011 - Thursday 4 August, 2011, closed
15:57:34 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:57:35 <Zakim> 5. Topics for further expansion - any volunteers to further expand any topics? [from sharper]
15:57:39 <sharper> zakim, next item
15:57:39 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, sharper
15:57:51 <sharper> zakim, take up item 6
15:57:51 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Upcoming meeting schedule - Thursday 14 July, 2011 - Thursday 21 July, 2011 - Thursday 28 July, 2011 - Thursday 4 August, 2011" taken up [from sharper]
15:58:19 <sharper> SAZ: Any volunteers for the editorial work of the teleconference seminar
15:58:40 <sharper> SAZ: Maybe by suggestions to the mainling list
15:58:53 <sharper> s/mainling/mailing
15:59:43 <sharper> SAZ: Lets start by populating the wiki then we can choose from those topics
16:01:46 <sharper> SAZ: be less constrained - push any ideas out their you want
16:03:51 <sharper> RESOLVED: If you're excited by a topic and would like to do the first one - just add it to the wiki and volunteer to be the editor.
16:03:56 <benoit> ok bye
16:04:03 <Zakim> -Arun
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16:04:16 <sharper> rrsagent, make logs public
16:04:16 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:04:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rd-minutes.html sharper
16:04:19 <Zakim> -sharper
16:04:24 <benoit> -benoit
16:04:25 <Zakim> -km
16:04:33 <Zakim> -yeliz
16:04:42 <Zakim> -shadi
16:04:45 <Zakim> -Benoit
16:04:49 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()11:00AM has ended
16:04:51 <Zakim> Attendees were sharper, km, +33.4.78.41.aaaa, shadi, yeliz, Joshue, Mate, Benoit, Arun
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