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15:50:53 trackbot, start telcon
15:50:55 RRSAgent, make logs public
15:50:57 Zakim, this will be
15:50:58 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
15:50:58 Meeting: HTML Speech Incubator Group Teleconference
15:50:59 Date: 07 July 2011
15:51:03 Chair: Dan Burnett
15:51:46 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/0007.html
15:51:56 Scribe: Dan_Burnett
15:52:01 ScribeNick: burn
15:54:13 INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM has now started
15:54:20 +??P11
15:54:31 not again...bad connection
15:54:49 Zakim, ??P11 is Olli_Pettay
15:54:49 +Olli_Pettay; got it
15:55:03 Zakim, nick smaug is Olli_Pettay
15:55:03 ok, smaug, I now associate you with Olli_Pettay
15:56:33 +[Voxeo]
15:56:46 zakim, [Voxeo] is Dan_Burnett
15:56:46 +Dan_Burnett; got it
15:56:52 zakim, I am burn
15:56:52 sorry, burn, I do not see a party named 'burn'
15:56:59 zakim, I am Dan_Burnett
15:56:59 ok, burn, I now associate you with Dan_Burnett
15:57:09 +[Microsoft]
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15:57:38 zakim, [Microsoft] is Robert_Brown
15:57:38 +Robert_Brown; got it
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15:59:15 +??P18
15:59:18 bringert has joined #htmlspeech
15:59:20 Regrets: Michael_Bodell
15:59:39 zakim, ??P18 is Bjorn_Bringert
15:59:39 +Bjorn_Bringert; got it
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16:00:02 +Dan_Druta
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16:00:58 +Charles_Hemphill
16:01:06 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/0007.html
16:01:21 Topic: Protocol subgroup status update
16:01:32 +Debbie_Dahl
16:01:38 zakim, nick Charles is Charles_Hemphill
16:01:40 ok, burn, I now associate Charles with Charles_Hemphill
16:01:50 + +1.408.359.aaaa
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16:02:14 Draft to review is in this email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/0011.html
16:02:31 About a week behind schedule
16:02:45 Plan was to model on MRCP, send everything over websockets
16:02:58 zakim, aaaa is Glen_Shires
16:03:07 +Glen_Shires; got it
16:03:17 MRCP is ideal for IVR but not necessarily for HTML
16:03:34 zakim, nick glen is Glen_Shires
16:03:40 ok, burn, I now associate glen with Glen_Shires
16:03:43 Continuous recognition also not really supported in MRCP
16:04:03 So keeping methods and headers where they make sense, adjusting otherwise
16:04:07 + +44.207.881.aabb
16:04:30 +Patrick_Ehlen
16:04:52 zakim, aabb is Satish_Sampath
16:05:03 +Satish_Sampath; got it
16:05:08 +Michael_Johnston
16:05:08 zakim, nick satish is Satish_Sampath
16:05:15 ok, burn, I now associate satish with Satish_Sampath
16:05:19 any questions?
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16:05:47 zakim, nick Michael_ is Michael_Johnston
16:05:47 ok, burn, I now associate Michael_ with Michael_Johnston
16:05:57 zakim, nick ehlen is Patrick_Ehlen
16:05:57 ok, burn, I now associate ehlen with Patrick_Ehlen
16:06:37 Robert: any questions?
16:06:45 Group: [no]
16:06:57 lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/att-0011/speech-protocol-draft-03.html
16:08:16 Bjorn: have consensus on mailing list on markup binding
16:08:38 ... Satish, Olli and I have consensus
16:08:59 ... okay to have recognition element but must be flexible in terms of UA policies
16:09:24 ... UA are allowed to show permission prompt each time if they want
16:09:37 Olli: UA must not start reco without getting some permission from user
16:10:00 Bjorn: no, must not start sending audio to remote service (might have been collected earlier)
16:10:58 Olli: current API doesn't work for this
16:11:08 Bjorn: might be allowable to have a whitelist
16:11:13 Olli: agree
16:11:30 Bjorn: doesn't necessarily have to prompt for permission, could get it some other way.
16:11:48 Olli: as long as clicking on a page is not considered giving permission
16:12:10 Bjorn: can relax restriction if recognizer is part of browser and audio is not sent anywhere
16:12:29 Olli: yes, no permisssion needed if reco done on local device
16:12:39 ... but needed for use of remote service
16:13:22 Bjorn: summary is okay to have a recognition element, just clicking the element is not sufficient permission to start sending to remote service, some explicit permission is required
16:13:38 Olli: this does'nt say anything about how we would bind to existing html elements
16:13:45 Bjorn: is there disagreement?
16:13:53 Olli: possibly, depending on which type
16:13:59 ... still to discuss
16:14:03 Bjorn: okay
16:15:36 -Bjorn_Bringert
16:15:40 -Debbie_Dahl
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16:16:03 -Glen_Shires
16:16:13 -Satish_Sampath
16:16:22 s/About a week behind/Robert: About a week behind/
16:16:47 s/Plan was to model/Robert: Plan was to model/
16:17:08 s/MRCP is ideal/Robert: MRCP is ideal/
16:17:28 s/Continuous recognition also/Robert: Continuous recognition also/
16:17:49 s/So keeping methods and headers/Robert: So keeping methods and headers/
16:18:34 rrsagent, make log public
16:18:40 rrsagent, draft minutes
16:18:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
16:47:15 zakim, who's on the phone?
16:47:15 On the phone I see Olli_Pettay, Dan_Burnett, Robert_Brown, Dan_Druta, Charles_Hemphill, Patrick_Ehlen, Michael_Johnston
17:06:48 -Olli_Pettay
17:09:05 ah, skype died
17:30:57 -Dan_Druta
17:30:58 -Robert_Brown
17:30:58 -Dan_Burnett
17:31:00 -Michael_Johnston
17:31:02 -Patrick_Ehlen
17:31:13 -Charles_Hemphill
17:31:18 INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM has ended
17:31:20 Attendees were Olli_Pettay, Dan_Burnett, Robert_Brown, Bjorn_Bringert, Dan_Druta, Charles_Hemphill, Debbie_Dahl, +1.408.359.aaaa, Glen_Shires, +44.207.881.aabb, Patrick_Ehlen,
17:31:23 ... Satish_Sampath, Michael_Johnston
17:31:35 zakim, bye
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17:31:39 rrsagent, draft minutes
17:31:39 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
17:32:26 s/ +1.408.359.aaaa,//
17:32:43 s/ +44.207.881.aabb,//
17:32:55 rrsagent, draft minutes
17:32:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
17:34:01 s/ ah, skype died//
17:34:05 rrsagent, draft minutes
17:34:05 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
17:34:19 thanks
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