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We plan to have alternating chairs, and revolving scribes. See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Scribes#Scribes 13:56:49 Chair: Bernadette 13:56:53 Scribe: Raphaem 13:56:58 Scribenick: raphael 13:57:03 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-gld-minutes.html raphael 13:57:10 +davidwood 13:57:20 DruidSmith has joined #gld 13:57:45 Zakim, ??p4 is me 13:57:45 I already had ??P4 as mew, Simpson_2 13:57:48 George has joined #gld 13:57:50 Zakim, davidwood is bhyland 13:57:50 +bhyland; got it 13:57:52 + +1.703.292.aabb 13:58:00 Present: Raphael, Bernardette, DavidWood, HadleyBeeman 13:58:30 wbrafford has joined #GLD 13:58:47 + +25430217aacc 13:58:53 +DruidSmith 13:59:03 Chair+ George 13:59:07 +??P15 13:59:13 Simon has joined #gld 13:59:19 davidwood has left #gld 13:59:30 cygri_ has joined #gld 13:59:36 Zakim, mew is really Simpson_2 13:59:36 +Simpson_2; got it 13:59:37 Regrets: Michael 14:00:09 SimonWall has joined #gld 14:00:28 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Jul/0001.html 14:00:53 +cygri 14:00:55 + +1.202.566.aadd 14:01:02 rick2 has joined #gld 14:01:08 martin has joined #gld 14:01:10 Present+ Richard 14:01:28 +??P27 14:01:52 + +1.704.302.aaee 14:02:12 +??P34 14:02:18 + +1.202.690.aaff 14:02:40 + +1.540.645.aagg 14:02:50 zakim, ?P34 is me 14:02:54 +??P38 14:03:00 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-gld-minutes.html raphael 14:03:08 zakim, ??P34 is me 14:03:13 -??P38 14:03:21 sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '?P34' 14:03:27 zakim, list conferences 14:03:37 + +49.721.aahh 14:03:41 +martin; got it 14:03:59 http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663&public=1 14:04:03 I see Math_IG()10:00AM, SW_(PROV1)8:00AM, WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM, INC_LLDXG()10:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM, SW_RDFa()10:00AM, T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM, UW_POI(POIWG)10:00AM active 14:04:08 also scheduled at this time are MM_MMI(EMMA)10:00AM, XML_PMWG()10:00AM, WF_TF()9:00AM, IA_WebApps(Widgets)9:00AM 14:04:14 zakim, this is T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 14:04:32 Topic: 1. Introduction 14:04:42 raphael, this was already T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 14:04:44 ok, raphael; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 14:04:50 +Sandro 14:04:53 George Thomas: co-chair of this group 14:05:34 fadmaa has joined #gld 14:05:53 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Scribes 14:06:05 zakim, who is on the call? 14:06:05 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, +1.202.557.aaaa, bhyland, +1.703.292.aabb, +25430217aacc, DruidSmith, ??P15, cygri, +1.202.566.aadd, ??P27, +1.704.302.aaee 14:06:08 ... (muted), martin, +1.202.690.aaff, +1.540.645.aagg, +49.721.aahh, Sandro 14:06:13 boris has joined #gld 14:06:21 Bernardette: co-chair of this group 14:06:24 zakim, +49.721.aahh has bkaempgen 14:06:24 +bkaempgen; got it 14:06:46 ... both of us new in co-chairing a w3c group, so we're happy to take advice and suggestions from the group 14:07:06 +??P46 14:07:08 TGheen has joined #gld 14:07:17 -??P46 14:07:29 ... the agenda is sent at least 24 hours in advance 14:07:32 zakim, who is on the call? 14:07:32 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, +1.202.557.aaaa, bhyland, +1.703.292.aabb, +25430217aacc, DruidSmith, ??P15, cygri, +1.202.566.aadd, ??P27 (muted), 14:07:35 ... +1.704.302.aaee (muted), martin, +1.202.690.aaff, +1.540.645.aagg, +49.721.aahh, Sandro 14:07:38 +49.721.aahh has bkaempgen 14:07:39 ... speak up for regrets or possible addition to the agenda 14:07:50 q+ 14:07:55 ... the time we pick was the most convenient for the majority, sorry for the others 14:08:10 Topic: 2. F2F meeting in June 14:08:24 See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1 14:08:49 ... minutes of the first day: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-06-29 14:09:01 ... minutes of the second day: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-06-30 14:09:04 T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has been moved to #gld-wg by gatemezi 14:09:40 zakim, move gld to here 14:09:42 ok, sandro; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 14:09:52 + +1.202.691.aaii 14:09:56 Michael has joined #gld 14:10:37 Yigal has joined #gld 14:11:02 zakim, aaaa is Rick_Murphy 14:11:11 +Rick_Murphy; got it 14:11:19 zakim, aaff is George 14:11:25 +George; got it 14:11:36 zakim, aabb is Ernie 14:11:39 +Ernie; got it 14:11:40 zakim, who is on the call? 14:11:43 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, Rick_Murphy, bhyland, Ernie, +25430217aacc, DruidSmith, ??P15, cygri, +1.202.566.aadd, SimonWall, +1.704.302.aaee (muted), 14:11:48 ... martin, George, +1.540.645.aagg, +49.721.aahh, Sandro, ??P52, +1.202.691.aaii 14:11:52 +49.721.aahh has bkaempgen 14:11:59 zakim, aadd is Mike_Pendleton 14:11:59 +Mike_Pendleton; got it 14:12:18 annew has joined #gld 14:13:05 zakim, aacc is Fadi 14:13:05 +Fadi; got it 14:13:05 gatemezi has joined #gld 14:13:33 bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen 14:14:03 zakim, ??P15 is Yigal 14:14:03 +Yigal; got it 14:14:20 zakim, aadd is Dave_Smith 14:14:20 sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd' 14:14:32 zakim, who is here 14:14:32 boris, you need to end that query with '?' 14:14:34 ? 14:14:37 zakim, who is on the call? 14:14:37 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, Rick_Murphy, bhyland, Ernie, Fadi, DruidSmith, Yigal, cygri, Mike_Pendleton, SimonWall, +1.704.302.aaee, martin, George, 14:14:41 ... +1.540.645.aagg, +49.721.aahh, Sandro, ??P52, +1.202.691.aaii 14:14:42 +49.721.aahh has bkaempgen 14:14:42 + +1.202.270.aajj 14:14:56 that's me, annew 270 14:14:58 zakim, aaee is brafford 14:14:58 +brafford; got it 14:15:24 zakim, aagg is Tina 14:15:24 +Tina; got it 14:15:28 zakim, ??P52 is probably me 14:15:28 +boris?; got it 14:15:47 zakim, aaii is Dan_Gilman 14:15:47 +Dan_Gilman; got it 14:15:50 zakim, who is on the call? 14:15:50 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, Rick_Murphy, bhyland, Ernie, Fadi, DruidSmith, Yigal, cygri, Mike_Pendleton, SimonWall, brafford (muted), martin, George, Tina, 14:15:50 zakim, gatemezi is ghislain 14:15:54 ... +49.721.aahh, Sandro, boris?, Dan_Gilman, +1.202.270.aajj 14:15:56 +49.721.aahh has bkaempgen 14:15:58 sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named 'gatemezi' 14:16:04 zakim, who is on the call? 14:16:04 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, Rick_Murphy, bhyland, Ernie, Fadi, DruidSmith, Yigal, cygri, Mike_Pendleton, SimonWall, brafford (muted), martin, George, Tina, 14:16:07 ... +49.721.aahh, Sandro, boris?, Dan_Gilman, +1.202.270.aajj 14:16:09 +49.721.aahh has bkaempgen 14:16:30 ;) 14:16:34 cute 14:17:39 user has joined #gld 14:17:49 zakim, who is on the call? 14:17:49 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, Rick_Murphy, bhyland, Ernie, Fadi, DruidSmith, Yigal, cygri, Mike_Pendleton, SimonWall, brafford (muted), martin, George, Tina, 14:17:52 ... +49.721.aahh, Sandro, boris?, Dan_Gilman, +1.202.270.aajj 14:17:53 +49.721.aahh has bkaempgen 14:18:12 zakim, aajj is Anne_Washington 14:18:12 +Anne_Washington; got it 14:18:26 tobo = Tope Omitola 14:18:48 tobo, use "/nick tobo" 14:19:20 user has left #gld 14:20:20 user has joined #gld 14:20:28 zakim, aahh is bkaempgen 14:20:29 +bkaempgen; got it 14:20:30 zakim, who is on the call? 14:20:30 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, Rick_Murphy, bhyland, Ernie, Fadi, DruidSmith, Yigal, cygri, Mike_Pendleton, SimonWall, brafford (muted), martin, George, Tina, 14:20:33 ... bkaempgen, Sandro, boris?, Dan_Gilman, Anne_Washington 14:20:35 bkaempgen has bkaempgen 14:21:22 zakim, who is talking? 14:21:33 gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Simpson_2 (84%), bhyland (5%), SimonWall (4%), Sandro (9%) 14:21:54 Is my microphone hard to hear? 14:22:04 Hadley: data.gov.uk 14:22:39 Thank you, bhyland! 14:22:55 Raphael: assistant professor in EURECOM, multimedia semantics, datalift project in France (data.gouv.fr) 14:23:04 Rick: US 14:23:17 Bernadette: 3stones, Washington DC 14:23:41 Raphael: I'm not officially representing data.gov.uk, though I'm working closely with them. I'm on the re-use/linking/best practices side; where as they're more on publishing and reference datasets. 14:23:46 Fadi: ireland, DERI Galway 14:24:06 Simpson_2: data.gov in NL 14:24:17 s/Raphael:/Raphael,/ 14:24:22 Tope Omitola University of Southampton 14:24:53 Richard: DERI, statistical data in RDF, member of RDF WG and RDB2RDF WG 14:25:18 Michael: US Environement Protection Agency in Washington DC with Druid 14:25:23 DruidSmith works for U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, manages Facility Registry System http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/fii/index.html - LOD prototype modeling of FRS: http://epa.gov.clients.talis.com/.html 14:26:10 zakim, who is talking? 14:26:12 William: Semantic Web company, colleagues involved in the RDF and Provenance WG 14:26:20 gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Simpson_2 (4%), SimonWall (4%), martin (74%) 14:26:27 zakim, who is on the call? 14:26:27 On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Simpson_2, raphael, Rick_Murphy, bhyland, Ernie, Fadi, DruidSmith, Yigal, cygri, Mike_Pendleton, SimonWall, brafford, martin, George, Tina, 14:26:31 ... bkaempgen, Sandro, boris?, Dan_Gilman, Anne_Washington 14:26:33 bkaempgen has bkaempgen 14:26:45 My company is Revelytix, Inc. http://www.revelytix.com 14:26:58 Boris: work in UPM (Spain), we have at least 2 projects which are 5 stars compliant, OpenData movement in Spain 14:27:15 s/Boris/Martin 14:27:22 George: the other co-chair of this group, works for data.gov in US 14:27:33 s/UPM/CTIC 14:27:59 do not worry 14:28:17 George - works for US Dept. of Health and Human Services www.hhs.gov - works with US data.gov PMO 14:28:20 Sandro: W3C team contact, worked in SPARQL, Provenance, etc. 14:28:36 zakim, Boris? is Boris 14:28:49 +Boris; got it 14:28:53 Boris: UPM, developing LinkedData projects for several agencies, currently working in DERI for 2 months 14:29:00 Universidad Politécnica de Madrid 14:29:05 + +1.202.409.aakk 14:29:28 s/UPM/Universidad Politécnica de Madrid 14:29:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-gld-minutes.html raphael 14:29:49 Tina Gheen is at the National Science Foundation Library in Arlington, VA on temporary assignment to the Library of Congress. Working on a Law project with linked data potential. 14:30:16 ( raphael note that we're using CommonScribe not RRSAgent's minutes. ) 14:30:17 Ghislain, PHD student working in the Datalift project, www.datalift.org, at the French government level... 14:30:35 My supervisor is Raphaël 14:30:56 I am now at Eurecom 14:30:57 Anne: Going to George Mason Univ. 14:31:07 Aisen: I'm at MITRE 14:31:29 zakim, aakk is Michael_Aisenberg 14:31:29 +Michael_Aisenberg; got it 14:32:04 topic: Announcements 14:32:57 Hadley: annoucement of a set of new open datasets from the Prime Minister 14:33:13 ... data about transport, crime statistics 14:33:22 http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jul/07/government-transparency-data-releases 14:35:03 +1 14:35:05 Bernadette: should we go for 1 hour or 1,5 hour telecon? 14:35:09 +1 14:35:11 +1 14:35:12 ... I would vote for 1 hour 14:35:12 +1 14:35:16 +1 14:35:18 +1 (one hour) 14:35:21 +1 14:35:24 +1 14:35:31 Bernadette: should we meet weekly during the summer ? 14:35:43 ... we could 3 telecon in July because we need to start 14:35:48 ... and 2 telecon in August 14:35:49 +1 short summer 14:35:50 George may get called for jury duty next Thu 7/14 14:35:54 ... should we skip 14/07 ? 14:36:13 Raphael: 14/07 is national day in France :-) 14:36:25 While we're discussing meetings, is there a face-to-face planned during the TPAC? 14:36:46 Sandro: put a wiki page up so people can state their availability 14:37:06 Hadley, I think it is too late for TPAC ... all group meetings have been arranged already 14:37:12 q+ 14:37:18 q- 14:37:21 zakim, ack sandro 14:37:21 I see George on the speaker queue 14:37:23 q- george 14:37:34 Thanks, George (and Sandro) 14:37:40 Mike_Pendleton has joined #gld 14:37:55 TPAC is in Santa Clara in November 14:38:24 Sandro: TPAC is a full week where all groups meet (Mon-Tue and Thu-Fri) while Wed is for the AC 14:38:39 ... we should wonder soon when will be the next F2F meeting 14:38:41 + +1.703.281.aall 14:39:26 user has left #gld 14:39:33 Topic: June F2F meeting 14:39:47 Raphael: wonder if there is a tracker set up for this group ? 14:41:56 tobo has joined #gld 14:44:12 Bernadette: community directory 14:44:33 William? 14:44:37 unmute brafford 14:44:37 point of order for coming back to issues... we are about 15 minutes before 11am 14:44:45 zakim, who is muted? 14:44:45 I see brafford muted 14:45:20 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary 14:46:18 tobo here Tope Omitola University of Southampton 14:47:01 +??P0 14:47:08 I think it is a good base to start. Do we have enough volunteers for that? 14:47:57 William: unclear which technology should be used for this community directory 14:48:08 ... web site, wiki 14:48:13 ... we can have a discussion 14:49:25 @William: I suppose all the technologies used in all the process of publishing data on the web 14:49:57 thus, classify by process 14:50:23 ok just trying to determine what the first step is. 14:50:46 Bernadette: we should most likely go for open source tools 14:51:21 I think it'd be interesting to use the public Knoodl site to compose the Vocabs (with an eye toward Standard Vocab dogfood) and then have someone host a Callimachus instance (who?) 14:51:40 ... how to select the tools to mention? 14:51:48 +q 14:51:51 Apologies, I joined the call late. What directory are you talking about, Bernadette? 14:51:55 ... we talk a bit a the F2F meeting 14:52:02 ... who is interested in helping for this? 14:52:07 tobo, the first deliverable, in the Charter. 14:52:14 OK. 14:52:20 @tobo - see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary 14:52:23 Let me check the charter 14:52:24 Raphael: there is the SW Use Cases to get inspiration from 14:52:49 Do we mean this : Deployments, at every stage of the effort from initial consideration to maturity, with (when available) success stories, lessons learned, and ongoing challenges (concrete use cases) 14:53:23 q+ 14:53:24 DruidSmith_2 has joined #gld 14:53:25 ... the Multimedia Semantics XG also tried to do that, e.g. http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/ 14:53:26 ack bkaempgen 14:53:46 zakim, who is talking? 14:53:48 http://wiki.planet-data.eu/web/Main_Page 14:53:56 sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (53%), raphael (100%), martin (4%) 14:54:30 lucier has joined #gld 14:54:35 Raphael: main SW wiki is at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Main_Page 14:55:00 +1 on wiki templates from sandro 14:55:09 SWEO use cases at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/ 14:55:57 I think we're talking about this: Action Item: Support of 2.1.1 - 2.1.4 - Community Directory - Deployments, Vendors, Contractors, Applications - Volunteer: William Bradford ? 14:56:11 there is a lot of background noice :( 14:56:20 zakim, who is talking? 14:56:31 sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (50%), raphael (5%), bhyland (100%) 14:56:39 zakim, mute ??P0 14:56:39 ??P0 should now be muted 14:56:57 Raphael: I would suggest to create a new wiki template, similar to the tools one at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Tools but for Governement Data 14:57:04 ... at the same location 14:57:15 sandro, +1 to just start 14:57:27 +q 14:57:36 ack sandro 14:57:59 ack bkaempgen 14:58:15 Bernadette? I'm happy to help William on this task. 14:58:25 @tobo thanks! 14:58:40 Very good. 14:59:03 bkaempgen: I'm happy to help with Semantic Media Wiki, but I don't want to be the driver. 14:59:42 bkaempgen offers to support the use of SMW 14:59:43 Could I join the group in charge of the community Directory? 15:00:33 I can attempt to help but don't yet have a great deal of tech familiarity with Callimachus or Semantic Media Wiki 15:00:39 +??P61 15:00:39 YES, 15:00:48 Tope Omitola 15:00:56 ?p61 is Yigal 15:01:02 Atemezing, Ghislain Auguste 15:01:08 zakim, ?p61 is Yigal [08:01] Atemezing, Ghis 15:01:41 I don't understand you, Yigal 15:02:00 zakim, ??P61 is Yigal 15:02:20 +Yigal; got it 15:03:01 +q 15:03:04 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary 15:03:25 Tope, Ghislain and David offered to help with ComDir 15:03:38 yes, Sandro 15:03:45 Bernadette, I'll help with the cookbook, legacy data, stability and versioning. 15:04:29 Yay! Hadley for helping me with stability! 15:04:39 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Technology_Policy_Leaders 15:04:52 Looking forward to working with you, Annew. :) 15:04:55 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Civil_Society 15:05:13 +q 15:05:24 Raphael: I'm under the impression that all these wiki pages are not linked from the main page, are they? 15:05:43 q? 15:05:54 ack rickmurphy 15:06:02 I can contribute in the vocabulary selection also... 15:06:17 under the Cookbook if possible 15:06:58 i can contribute to the Versioning and Legacy Data chapters 15:07:38 The hyperlinks Rick is talking about are here: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary#Outreach 15:07:38 I'd like to help with the ComDir 15:07:52 +q we need a central place for all these wiki links 15:08:20 we can contribute on vocabulary selection 15:08:24 I'd like to help with the cookbook 15:08:26 Community Discovery: William, Tope, and Ghislain. 15:08:46 q+ 15:09:20 I can contribute to Legacy Data chapter as well 15:09:34 gilman: I'm chairing US Gov Open Vocabs interest group 15:10:04 On BPs, I'd like to support 3. Guidance in explaining the value proposition for LOD to stakeholders, managers and executives. 15:10:21 +1 Raphael's point that we need a central place that links to all these new wiki pages 15:11:49 +1 to Raphael idea 15:12:10 -Anne_Washington 15:12:15 @Dan - the OGV metadata recommendations and an analysis of it's relationship to other posited vocabs is of interest to this WG 15:12:26 raphael, see http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html (and I'll be on IRC) 15:13:33 -Yigal 15:13:50 @Dan - ( realize Dan isn't on this IRC channel ) - the aforementioned OGV whitepaper makes no direct contribution to this WG deliverables other than recommending the use of SemWeb technologies and Linked Data 15:15:52 Wiki page, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary 15:17:14 +q 15:17:19 q- 15:18:16 q- 15:18:34 okay I would like to help on use case / best practices part 15:18:45 I have full control over the work for the Fire Department Amsterdam 15:19:13 I would like to help on Statistical "Cube" Data. 15:20:26 q- 15:21:14 New wiki pages should be listed under "Ongoing Work" at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Main_Page 15:21:19 Thanks, bhyland and George! Useful telecon. 15:21:22 thank ! 15:21:22 -Dan_Gilman 15:21:24 -Mike_Pendleton 15:21:24 Thanks all 15:21:25 Thanks, bye 15:21:25 - +1.703.281.aall 15:21:27 -Ernie 15:21:28 -Sandro 15:21:29 -Yigal.a 15:21:29 -Fadi 15:21:30 -raphael 15:21:31 -SimonWall 15:21:33 -bhyland 15:21:35 -martin 15:21:36 Thanks 15:21:37 -Simpson_2 15:21:40 -DruidSmith 15:21:41 thanks bhyland, george, sandro! great first meeting :-) 15:21:41 martin has left #gld 15:21:44 -bkaempgen 15:21:47 -brafford 15:21:48