07:43:55 RRSAgent has joined #mediaann 07:43:55 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/06/28-mediaann-irc 07:44:02 zakim, this will be mawg 07:44:02 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, wbailer 07:44:42 tmichel has joined #mediaann 07:44:42 zakim, this will bw Team_(mediaann) 07:44:42 I don't understand 'this will bw Team_(mediaann)', wbailer 07:44:53 zakim, this will be Team_(mediaann) 07:44:53 ok, wbailer; I see Team_(mediaann)07:00Z scheduled to start 44 minutes ago 07:49:01 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has now started 07:49:01 meeting: MAWG F2F day 1 07:49:09 + +33.4.92.38.aaaa 07:49:38 - +33.4.92.38.aaaa 07:49:39 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has ended 07:49:39 Attendees were +33.4.92.38.aaaa 07:50:51 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has now started 07:50:58 +Sophia 08:06:05 + +41.22.717.aaaa 08:30:19 daniel has joined #mediaann 08:30:40 topic: checking rdf mapping 08:31:01 looking at the exif example 08:34:19 (exif) identifier: needs to be reviewed 08:36:01 identifier property should be used instead of ID 08:36:05 type should be URI 08:38:03 rdf:datatype does not have correct values for the datatypes 08:39:27 (exif) contributor is missing 08:39:45 (exif) creator is missing 08:40:18 (exif) date: not have correct values for the date 08:40:26 (exif) location is missing 08:40:33 (exif) description is missing 08:40:45 (exif) keyword is missing 08:40:51 (exif) genre is missing 08:43:44 (exif) relation: curioucity mapping to RelatedSoundFile needs to be checked 08:47:29 (exif) relation: has related to image inconsistency to mapping table (needs to be checked and updated accordingly) 08:48:04 (exif) copyright: does not have correct values for the type, should be URI 08:49:09 (exif) frameSiZe: ok 08:49:33 (exif) frameSiZe: does not have correct values for the type 08:50:10 (exif) compression: missing 08:51:15 moving to cablelabs example 08:52:39 -Sophia 08:54:57 - +41.22.717.aaaa 08:54:58 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has ended 08:55:00 Attendees were Sophia, +41.22.717.aaaa 08:55:32 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has now started 08:55:40 + +41.22.717.aaaa 08:55:46 - +41.22.717.aaaa 08:55:47 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has ended 08:55:47 Attendees were +41.22.717.aaaa 09:00:57 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has now started 09:01:04 +Sophia 09:01:51 joakim has joined #mediaann 09:07:59 (cablelabs) identifier: is missing 09:08:12 identifier is missing in the RDF 09:10:39 (cablelabs) revised the mapping table: identifier is ok 09:13:34 (cablelabs) title: is ok 09:13:57 (cablelabs) contributor: ok 09:14:13 (cablelabs) language: is missing 09:14:39 (cablelabs) creator: missing 09:14:56 (cablelabs) date: ok 09:15:20 (cablelabs) location: missing 09:16:24 (cablelabs) mediatype is *Title* too much in mapping table, check it out 09:17:41 (cablelabs) description: ok 09:17:47 (cablelabs) keyword: ok 09:17:52 (cablelabs) genre: ok 09:20:13 (cablelabs) relation: exist, needs to be fixed 09:20:19 (cablelabs) collection: ok 09:20:25 (cablelabs) copyright: ok 09:20:34 (cablelabs) policy: missing 09:20:51 (cablelabs) publisher: ok 09:20:58 (cablelabs) targetAudience: ok 09:21:15 (cablelabs) fragments: missing 09:22:22 (cablelabs) attribute in RDF. copyright ? 09:24:10 (cablelabs) holder needs to be replaced by copyright. needs to be fixed 09:24:29 (cablelabs) nameFragmented: missing 09:24:45 (cablelabs) frameSize: missing 09:24:51 (cablelabs) compression: missing 09:25:09 (cablelabs) duration: twice, needs to be fixed 09:25:27 (cablelabs) twice in RFD, needs to be checked and fixed 09:26:09 (cablelabs) format: ok 09:26:16 (cablelabs) frameRate: missing 09:26:22 (cablelabs) averageBitRate: missing 09:26:38 cablelabs example is done 09:26:57 moving to DIG35 example 09:28:06 (IDG35) RFD based link should be changed, the current point in RDF is wrong 09:30:50 (cablelabs) identifier: ok 09:30:59 (cablelabs) title: ok 09:31:26 (cablelabs) contributor: missing 09:31:50 (cablelabs) creator: ok 09:33:03 (cablelabs) CreateDate needs to be changed to CreationDate 09:33:44 (IDG35) identifier: ok 09:33:48 (IDG35) title: ok 09:33:55 (IDG35) contributor: missing 09:34:01 (IDG35) creator: ok 09:34:19 (IDG35) CreateDate needs to be changed to CreationDate 09:34:34 (IDG35) location: ok 09:34:39 (IDG35) description: ok 09:34:48 (IDG35) keyword: ok 09:35:02 (IDG35) genre: missing 09:35:17 (IDG35) copyright: ok 09:35:25 (IDG35) policy: missing 09:35:36 (IDG35) publisher: missing 09:35:55 (IDG35) frameSize: ok 09:36:04 (IDG35) compression: missing 09:36:21 (IDG35) format: ok 09:36:29 IDG35 example is done 09:39:40 (IDG35) absolute path should be changed in RDF file 09:39:58 moving to Dublin Core example 09:40:17 rrsagent, make logs public 09:40:22 rrsagent, draft minutes 09:40:22 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/28-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer 09:40:26 (Dublin Core) identifier: ok 09:40:31 (Dublin Core) title : ok 09:40:36 (Dublin Core) language: ok 09:40:42 (Dublin Core) contributor: ok 09:40:48 (Dublin Core) creator: ok 09:40:58 (Dublin Core) location: ok 09:41:05 (Dublin Core) description: ok 09:41:08 (Dublin Core) keyword: ok 09:41:14 (Dublin Core) genre: ok 09:46:38 (Dublin Core) all properties exist, resource needs to be linked for the related point 09:46:52 moving to EBUCore example 09:47:32 (EBU Core) identifier: ok 09:47:38 (EBU Core) title: ok 09:50:29 (EBU Core) language: hasPartNarrated does not seem to be corrected, needs to be checked and fixed 09:50:41 (EBU Core) language: missing 09:50:52 (EBU Core) locator: ok 09:51:15 (EBU Core) contributor: missing 09:51:20 (EBU Core) creator: ok 09:51:27 (EBU Core) date: ok 09:52:40 (EBU Core) location: ok 09:52:56 (EBU Core) description: ok 09:53:10 (EBU Core) keyword: ok 09:54:24 Wonsuk has left #mediaann 09:54:47 (EBU Core) genre: missing 09:56:15 (EBU Core) relation: rating is missing in mapping table, and seems to be wrong, needs to be checked 09:56:22 (EBU Core) correction: missing 09:56:37 (EBU Core) copyright: ok 09:56:43 (EBU Core) publisher: ok 09:57:05 (EBU Core) targetAudience: missing 09:57:14 (EBU Core) fragments: ok 09:57:48 (EBU Core) nameFragments: fragmentName in RDF, seems ok 09:58:03 Wonsuk has joined #mediaann 09:58:28 (EBU Core) frameSize: missing (RelatedImage is a thumbnail information) 09:58:42 (EBU Core) compression: missing 09:58:47 (EBU Core) duration: missing 09:59:04 (EBU Core) format: ok (hasFormat) 09:59:22 (EBU Core) samplingRate: missing 09:59:52 (EBU Core) duration: s/missing/ok 10:00:04 (EBU Core) frameRate: ok 10:00:11 (EBU Core) averageBitRate: missing 10:00:17 (EBU Core) numTracks: missing 10:00:47 moving to ID3 example 10:01:21 (ID3) title: ok 10:02:58 (ID3) ID3_Complete_RDF/TTL is in use now 10:03:31 (ID3) title: ok 10:03:49 -Sophia 10:03:51 Team_(mediaann)07:00Z has ended 10:03:51 Attendees were Sophia 10:04:02 (ID3) language: ok 10:04:09 (ID3) contributor: ok 10:04:15 (ID3) creator: ok 10:04:35 (ID3) date: ok 10:05:01 (ID3) description: missing 10:05:13 (ID3) keyword: ok 10:05:17 (ID3) genre: ok 10:05:22 (ID3) rating: ok 10:05:32 (ID3) relation: missing 10:05:38 (ID3) collection: missing 10:06:05 (ID3) collection: isMemberOf is there, seems ok 10:06:32 (ID3) copyright: missing 10:06:38 (ID3) publisher: ok 10:06:44 (ID3) compression: ok 10:07:04 (ID3) duration: ok 10:07:42 (ID3) duration has a wrong datatype, needs to be fixed 10:07:50 (ID3) format: missing 10:08:05 moving to IPTC example 10:08:49 (IPTC) identifier: ok 10:08:51 (IPTC) title: ok 10:08:57 (IPTC) language: ok 10:09:02 (IPTC) locator: ok 10:09:09 (IPTC) contributor: ok 10:09:13 (IPTC) creator: ok 10:09:28 (IPTC) date: ok 10:09:46 (IPTC) location:ok 10:10:06 (IPTC) description: ok 10:10:18 (IPTC) keyword: ok 10:10:31 (IPTC) genre: missing 10:10:46 (IPTC) relation: ok (hasRelatedImage) 10:10:57 (IPTC) copyright: missing 10:11:03 (IPTC) policy: missing 10:11:47 (IPTC) publisher: updated in mapping table, missing 10:11:59 (IPTC) targetAudience: missing 10:12:09 (IPTC) fragments: missing 10:12:15 (IPTC) namedFragment: missing 10:12:39 (IPTC) s/fragments(namedFragment)/ok 10:12:48 (IPTC) frameSize: missing 10:13:05 (IPTC) compression: missing 10:13:16 (IPTC) duration: ok 10:13:20 (IPTC) format: ok 10:13:34 (IPTC) samplingRate: missing 10:14:13 (IPTC) frameRate: exist, but no mapping (incompleted) needs to be fixed 10:14:23 (IPTC) averageBitRate: missing 10:15:09 break for the lunch 10:31:21 Zakim has left #mediaann 11:23:05 wbailer has joined #mediaann 11:38:02 daniel_ has joined #mediaann 11:38:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 11:38:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/28-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer 11:39:21 moving to LOM example 11:39:52 (LOM) wrong namespace in RDF file, needs to be fixed 11:40:09 (LOM) missing namespace in RDF 11:41:28 Wonsuk has joined #mediaann 11:41:41 (LOM) RDF element is wrong, datatype is missing 11:42:29 (LOM) identifier: using ID, needs to be synced 11:42:33 (LOM) title: ok 11:42:37 (LOM) language: ok 11:42:41 (LOM) locator: ok 11:42:56 (LOM) contributor: missing 11:43:03 (LOM) creator: ok 11:43:12 (LOM) description: ok 11:43:17 (LOM) keyword: ok 11:43:42 (LOM) genre: ok 11:43:56 (LOM) relation: missing 11:44:39 (LOM) publisher: ok (hasPublisher) 11:44:47 (LOM) frameSize: missing 11:44:52 (LOM) duration: missing 11:45:03 (LOM) format: ok (hasFormat) 11:45:11 moving to Media RSS example 11:53:47 moving to MPEG-7 example 11:54:17 (MPEG-7) identifier: missing 11:54:37 (MPEG-7) title: missing 11:54:47 (MPEG-7) language: ok 11:55:07 (MPEG-7) locator: missing 11:55:36 (MPEG-7) contributor: missing 11:55:42 (MPEG-7) creator: ok 11:55:51 (MPEG-7) date: ok 11:55:56 (MPEG-7) location: ok 11:56:07 (MPEG-7) description: ok 11:56:15 (MPEG-7) keyword: ok 11:56:24 (MPEG-7) genre: ok 11:56:28 (MPEG-7) rating: ok 11:56:42 (MPEG-7) relation: missing 11:56:57 (MPEG-7) collection: ok 11:57:16 (MPEG-7) copyright: ok 11:57:21 (MPEG-7) policy: ok 11:57:34 (MPEG-7) publisher: ok 11:58:36 (MPEG-7) targetAudience: ok 11:58:43 (MPEG-7) fragments: ok 11:58:50 (MPEG-7) namedFragments: ok 11:59:02 (MPEG-7) frameSize: ok 11:59:12 (MPEG-7) compression: ok 11:59:21 (MPEG-7) duration: ok 11:59:42 (MPEG-7) format: ok (hasFormat) 11:59:53 (MPEG-7) samplingRate: ok 11:59:58 (MPEG-7) frameRate: ok 12:00:14 (MPEG-7) averageBitRate: ok 12:00:20 (MPEG-7) averageBitRate: ok 12:00:47 (MPEG-7) numTracks: ok (numberofTrack) 12:01:08 moving to OGG example 12:02:04 (OGG) identifier: missing 12:02:12 (OGG) title: ok 12:02:25 (OGG) language: missing 12:03:49 (OGG) locator: exist in mapping table, locator is embedded in OGG file, but does not have a link ??? needs to be checked 12:05:21 (OGG) locator: locator in RDF should be pointing to the OGG file 12:05:27 (OGG) contributor: missing 12:05:31 (OGG) creator: ok 12:05:36 (OGG) date: ok 12:05:40 (OGG) location: ok 12:06:27 (OGG) description 12:06:33 (OGG) description: missing 12:06:43 (OGG) genre: missing 12:06:57 (OGG) relation: missing 12:07:06 (OGG) collection: missing 12:07:24 (OGG) copyright: ok 12:08:28 (OGG) policy: missing, but copyright has a creativecommon 12:08:34 (OGG) publisher: missing 12:08:41 (OGG) targetAudience: missing 12:09:12 (OGG) frameSize: ok 12:09:16 (OGG) compression: ok 12:09:25 (OGG) duration: ok 12:09:35 (OGG) format: missing 12:09:42 (OGG) samplingRate: ok 12:11:26 (OGG) frameRate: ok 12:11:31 (OGG) frameRate: ok 12:12:33 {MPEG7) typo: aveargeBitRate 12:13:05 (OGG) replacing bitRate with averageBitRate in mapping table 12:16:11 (OGG) numTrack: isNumTrack, hasNumTrack must be deleted in mapping table 12:17:25 moving to QT example 12:18:28 (QT) title: ok 12:18:35 (QT) contributor: missing 12:18:40 (QT) creator: missing 12:19:00 (QT) date: ok 12:19:07 (QT) location: missing 12:19:16 (QT) description: ok 12:19:24 (QT) keyword: missing 12:19:32 (QT) genre: missing 12:19:43 (QT) rating: missing 12:19:48 (QT) collection: missing 12:19:56 (QT) copyright: ok 12:20:06 (QT) publisher: ok 12:20:53 (QT) frameSize: wrong (frameSizeUnit) needs to be fixed 12:21:09 (QT) compression: missing 12:21:40 (QT) duration: ok 12:21:45 (QT) format: missing 12:21:53 (QT) samplingRate: missing 12:22:02 (QT) frameRate: ok 12:22:09 (QT) averageBitRate: ok 12:22:16 (QT) numTrack: missing 12:23:23 moving to DMS-1 example 12:23:47 (DMS-1) identifier: missing 12:23:53 (DMS-1) title: ok 12:24:04 (DMS-1) language: ok 12:24:11 (DMS-1) locator: ok 12:24:28 (DMS-1) contributor: ok 12:24:41 (DMS-1) creator: missing 12:24:55 (DMS-1) date: ok 12:25:04 (DMS-1) location: ok 12:25:11 (DMS-1) description: ok 12:25:17 (DMS-1) genre: ok 12:25:22 (DMS-1) keyword: ok 12:25:27 (DMS-1) rating: ok 12:25:38 (DMS-1) relation: ok 12:25:50 (DMS-1) collection: missing 12:26:03 (DMS-1) copyright: ok 12:26:08 (DMS-1) policy: ok 12:26:19 (DMS-1) publisher: ok 12:26:41 (DMS-1) targetAudience: ok 12:26:48 (DMS-1) fragments: ok 12:26:56 (DMS-1) namedFragments: missing 12:27:33 (DMS-1) frameSize: ok 12:27:43 (DMS-1) compression: ok 12:27:48 (DMS-1) duration: ok 12:27:54 (DMS-1) format: ok 12:28:10 (DMS-1) samplingRate: ok 12:28:14 (DMS-1) frameRate: ok 12:28:17 pchampin has joined #mediaann 12:28:20 (DMS-1) averageBitRate: ok 12:28:34 (DMS-1) numTracks: ok 12:29:23 moving to TTML example 12:30:28 (TTML) title: ok 12:30:40 (TTML) language: missing 12:31:23 ok, thx :) 12:31:26 (TTML) contributor: (features ) ok 12:31:37 (TTML) creator: missing 12:31:44 (TTML) description: ok 12:31:52 (TTML) copyright: ok 12:32:03 (TTML) publisher: missing 12:32:08 (TTML) fragments: ok 12:32:29 (TTML) namedFragments: (hasNameFragment) ok 12:32:38 (TTML) duration: ok 12:32:43 (TTML) frameRate: ok 12:32:53 moving to TV-Anytime example 12:33:07 (TV-Anytime) identifier: ok 12:34:58 (TV-Anytime) title: ok 12:35:04 (TV-Anytime) language: ok 12:35:14 (TV-Anytime) locator: ok 12:35:31 (TV-Anytime) contributor: missing 12:35:36 (TV-Anytime) creator: missing 12:35:46 (TV-Anytime) date: ok 12:36:05 (TV-Anytime) location: missing 12:36:36 reference docs: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html 12:37:01 (TV-Anytime) description: ok 12:37:15 (TV-Anytime) keyword: ok 12:37:20 (TV-Anytime) genre: ok 12:37:23 (TV-Anytime) rating: missing 12:37:30 (TV-Anytime) relation: missing 12:37:40 (TV-Anytime) collection: missing 12:37:50 (TV-Anytime) copyright: missing 12:38:03 (TV-Anytime) policy: missing 12:38:06 (TV-Anytime) publisher: ok 12:38:14 (TV-Anytime) targetAudience: missing 12:38:24 (TV-Anytime) fragments: ok 12:38:29 (TV-Anytime) namedFragments: ok 12:38:37 (TV-Anytime) frameSize: missing 12:38:44 (TV-Anytime) compression: missing 12:38:49 (TV-Anytime) duration: ok 12:38:57 (TV-Anytime) format: missing 12:39:08 (TV-Anytime) samplingRate: missing 12:39:32 (TV-Anytime) frameRate: missing (empty in mapping table) 12:39:57 (TV-Anytime) frameRate: mapping table is incompleted 12:40:05 (TV-Anytime) averageBitRate: missing 12:40:27 (TV-Anytime) numTracks: ok 12:47:20 Corresponds to 'identifier' in the Ontology for Media Resources. The value being a URI, it is recommended to use owl:sameAs when appropriate, in order to maximize interoperability. 12:51:21 tmichel has joined #mediaann 13:04:28 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc4151.html 13:08:21 pchampin: First we have to decide if we still want to limit 'identifier' to URIs, or if we want to allow other kinds of URIs 13:08:54 ... We can refer to RFC4151 to explain how to map "local" identifiers to URIs. 13:09:13 tmichel has joined #mediaann 13:09:17 ... Then, if 'identifier' is limited to URI, we have to decide if we keep ma:identifier in the RDF ontology 13:12:22 PROPOSAL: keep 'identifier' (abstract ontology) limited to URIs; remove 'ma:identifier' from the RDF ontology and map the abstract property to RDF stuctures (node URI and owl:sameAs) 13:28:23 tmichel_ has joined #mediaann 13:28:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:28:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/28-mediaann-minutes.html tmichel_ 14:00:18 http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/ 14:00:29 http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html 14:00:32 http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html 14:22:30 Daniel has joined #mediaann 14:58:40 zakim, who is here 14:59:00 topic: resuming review of mapping files 14:59:36