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13:00:35 <plh> zakim, room for 8?
13:00:36 <Zakim> ok, plh; conference Team_(testing)13:00Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1400Z
13:00:39 <Zakim> Team_(testing)13:00Z has now started
13:00:40 <Zakim> +Plh
13:00:46 <plh> zakim, passcode?
13:00:46 <Zakim> the conference code is 26631 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), plh
13:02:37 <Zakim> +??P0
13:03:20 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:03:20 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:03:22 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:03:34 <shadi> zakim, mute me
13:03:34 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:04:05 <Zakim> +francois
13:04:30 <francois> zakim, mute me
13:04:30 <Zakim> francois should now be muted
13:05:00 <plh> agenda+ Testing IG
13:05:12 <plh> agenda+ Testing f2f
13:05:19 <plh> agenda+ Framework
13:06:12 <francois> scribe: francois
13:06:19 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
13:06:19 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Testing IG" taken up [from plh]
13:06:47 <francois> plh: working on activity proposal. I'll mention the Testing working group in it, mentioning that it will come up as well.
13:06:53 <francois> ... Should be done before the end of the week.
13:07:11 <francois> ... Haven't seen email from Mike on draft WG charter.
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13:08:08 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
13:08:08 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Testing f2f" taken up [from plh]
13:08:14 <francois> ... It seems CSS and SVG WG are trying to schedule a joint F2F at the end of July in Seattle, so best to be avoided for meeting or co-located there.
13:08:59 <francois> plh: I saw your draft, Wilhelm. Is it to be sent to all expected participants?
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13:09:20 <francois> wilhelm: yes, mostly targeted at browser vendors plus a few persons used to dealing with testing.
13:09:36 <francois> plh: should we invite folks from the mobile community as well, like operators?
13:09:40 <MikeSmith_> zakim, call Mike
13:09:40 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith_; the call is being made
13:09:41 <Zakim> +Mike
13:10:13 <francois> wilhelm: not sure. Most discussions would be at the technical level, mostly a problem for browser vendors.
13:10:35 <francois> ... I'd like to make the discussions as concrete on implementation details as possible.
13:10:47 <francois> ... People further down the chain can make use of this.
13:11:38 <shadi> ack me
13:11:45 <francois> plh: ok, good to go then.
13:11:52 <francois> shadi: is it a F2F or a workshop?
13:11:56 <francois> plh: neither!
13:12:03 <francois> ... it's going to be an informal meeting.
13:12:05 <shadi> zakim, mute me
13:12:05 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:12:13 <francois> ... Folks that meet together. No call for papers.
13:12:22 <francois> ... Meeting run in an informal way.
13:12:25 <shadi> ack me
13:12:59 <francois> wilhelm: not sure exactly how we'll organize it. I want to lock people in the room, and not let them out unless they agree!
13:13:07 <shadi> zakim, mute me
13:13:07 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:13:15 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
13:13:15 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Framework" taken up [from plh]
13:13:27 <francois> plh: Framework, where are we?
13:13:28 <francois> ack me
13:13:42 <shadi> scribe: shadi
13:13:49 <shadi> fd:
13:14:02 <shadi> fd: i've been looking at the framework
13:14:13 <shadi> ...the harness is currently designed as "per group"
13:14:29 <shadi> ...so each group would need to use a separate instance of the harness
13:14:44 <shadi> ...does not make sense unless important for resources
13:14:52 <shadi> s/resources/performance
13:15:01 <shadi> ...we only have 1 server though
13:15:16 <shadi> ...looking at the issue, and how to populate the instance
13:15:32 <shadi> PLH: can look at the HTML and Performance WGs
13:16:03 <shadi> MS: did not get to it, can get to it this week
13:16:16 <shadi> PLH: hopefully have something running by the end of the week?
13:16:22 <shadi> MS: hopefully, yes
13:16:32 <francois> zakim, mute me
13:16:32 <Zakim> francois should now be muted
13:16:42 <francois> scribe: francois
13:17:09 <francois> MS: ref the charter, I should have something pretty soon after this call.
13:17:25 <francois> ... I put it under the Rich Web Client activity, but I can change.
13:17:35 <francois> PLH: what was your rationale to put it there?
13:17:56 <francois> MS: well, it's about browser testing. Seems to fit.
13:18:26 <francois> ... can be fixed.
13:18:34 <francois> PLH: ok, I'll keep doing what I'm doing with the activity proposal.
13:18:39 <francois> ... Anything else for today?
13:18:48 <Zakim> -Mike
13:18:56 <francois> ack me
13:19:29 <Zakim> -Plh
13:19:32 <francois> zakim, mute me
13:19:32 <Zakim> francois should now be muted
13:19:33 <Zakim> -??P0
13:19:33 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:19:33 <Zakim> -francois
13:19:35 <Zakim> Team_(testing)13:00Z has ended
13:19:36 <Zakim> Attendees were Plh, Shadi, francois, Mike
13:19:45 <francois> PLH: no call next week (4 July).
13:19:49 <francois> [call adjourned]
13:20:06 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
13:20:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/27-testing-minutes.html francois
13:22:35 <francois> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:23:26 <francois> Agenda: Weekly Testing Call
13:23:32 <francois> Meeting: Weekly Testing Call
13:23:39 <francois> Chair: Philippe
13:23:42 <francois> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:29:32 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
13:29:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/27-testing-minutes.html francois
13:41:14 <gsnedders> FWIW, it's not certain the CSS WG will have a F2F then. Couple of people are questioning planning something so soon, given the cost of travel with under a month to go.
13:50:05 <plh> ah thanks for the info