17:26:15 RRSAgent has joined #gallery 17:26:15 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/06/24-gallery-irc 17:27:48 rrsagent, make logs public 17:28:05 meeting: Grab and Go Gallery 17:28:09 chair: Judy 17:28:25 zakim, who's here? 17:28:25 sorry, judy, I don't know what conference this is 17:28:26 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, jeanne, judy, korn1 17:28:29 zakim, this will be Gallery 17:28:29 ok, jeanne, I see WAI_(GALLERY)1:30PM already started 17:28:34 zakim, code? 17:28:34 the conference code is 4255379 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), jeanne 17:28:45 +Jeanne 17:29:12 present+ John 17:29:22 zakim, who is here? 17:29:22 On the phone I see John, Judy, Jeanne 17:29:23 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, jeanne, judy, korn1 17:29:25 +[Oracle] 17:29:45 zakim, Oracle is Peter 17:29:45 +Peter; got it 17:30:48 Jan has joined #gallery 17:31:20 +??P4 17:31:37 zakim, P4 is Jan 17:31:37 sorry, jeanne, I do not recognize a party named 'P4' 17:31:44 zakim, ??P4 is Jan 17:31:44 +Jan; got it 17:32:16 agenda? 17:32:24 +Andi_Snow_Weaver 17:32:30 agenda+ Challenge.gov draft content 17:32:31 Andi has joined #gallery 17:32:48 agenda+ Review of Gallery requirements 17:32:59 agenda+ Next Meetings 17:33:19 zakim, take up item 1 17:33:19 agendum 1. "Challenge.gov draft content" taken up [from jeanne] 17:34:28 JB: Did anyone look at the updated draft and have any comments? 17:36:29 Peter: Minor comment: In the Description section, the first long sentence. End the first sentence at the comma. Change "and" to "as well as" Section 508. 17:36:54 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/challenge-gallery/wiki/Grab_and_Go_Gallery 17:38:39 JB: A question for Peter. Last week we discussed the phrase "freely available". When I completed the instructions for challenge.gov, it was set up for contributions rather than products for sell. We also saw a place where attachments to commercial products be freely available, even if the products were not. Is that a problem for you? 17:38:43 Peter: No. 17:39:03 Judy: I remember asking Cynthia about this issue, and I will confirm with her. 17:39:22 Peter: Under section Images, it just says 1. 17:39:40 Judy: It is the answer to a form that is requesting the number of issues. 17:40:18 zakim, close this item 17:40:18 agendum 1 closed 17:40:19 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 17:40:21 2. Review of Gallery requirements [from jeanne] 17:40:24 zakim, take up next 17:40:24 agendum 2. "Review of Gallery requirements" taken up [from jeanne] 17:40:33 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/challenge-gallery/wiki/Gallery_Requirements 17:40:49 Judy: There is now content in this section. 17:41:31 ... this is based on earlier conversations of what we wanted to be able to search on. 17:41:47 Peter: Experience level required? 17:42:31 Judy: This is based on the level of experience of the person using the Gallery who may want widgets can be inserted without much of a fuss. 17:42:57 Peter: The scale of someone who can use a template is very different from the scale of a developer adding a widget. 17:44:01 Jan: I can see the issue - it may be handled by the place that the item is supposed to be used. A Word template will require less expertise than an Eclipse IDE widget. 17:45:11 brb 17:45:22 Peter: I'm not objecting too it, I think we need to give more information on what is the knowledge needed for someone to use it. I suggest Experience level Required *for use* 17:46:48 Judy: Imagine landing in a gallery and see rows of thumbnails of images. What is the information that people will need to filter that information? 17:47:41 Judy: We need a thumbnail image and we don't ask for one. I have added that. 17:49:51 Jan: Missing: the technology of the content - HTML, program code, what is it. 17:50:26 Andi: Implementing technology, or system requirements - if it is a java widget, you need to have java virtual machine 17:51:29 John: Php code needs to have the version 17:51:49 Judy: You realize that these all have to be in the Challenge requirements. 17:53:03 ... Thumbnail (specify size) Description (specify character length) 17:54:20 ...Type of component = template or widget. Language as the next imput. 17:55:42 Peter: I would say Environment - Word, Joomla, Eclipse 17:56:29 John: Langauage - HTML, Java, RubyOnRails 17:56:57 Jan: Have them be text fields and give examples. 17:58:46 Jeanne: People shopping for templates will want to know the Environment 17:59:17 Jan: But where does it stop? People who are shopping for Word 2000, will want to filter out the versions. 17:59:58 Judy: What is the minimum set of data that we need to be able to search for> 18:00:13 s/for>/for? 18:00:26 Judy: We haven't said the function 18:01:58 Jeanne: What about Tags where the author could enter free-form information 18:02:49 Judy: How would these questions work across a small number of items vs. a large number of items. 18:03:17 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 18:03:22 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/challenge-gallery/wiki/Sources_Samples#Examples_of_Templates_and_Widgets 18:05:28 [walks through an example from the Examples page] 18:05:43 Jan: I think this should all be in the description field. 18:07:18 Peter: Why should the version number be included for just HTML5? Shouldn't version number be included for others? 18:08:03 Java 6, php 5.3, CSS 2.1, HTML4 18:09:53 Environment examples - Word, jQuery, Eclipse, Drupal, Wordpress 18:10:58 System Requirements: ?? 18:11:20 Jan: If you have environment and language, then you don't need system requirements. 18:12:14 Peter: Is that the author's environment, or deployment environment - like Fluid, Wordpress, while the authoring environment could be text editor. 18:14:55 Authoring Environment Example - text editor, Word, Eclipse IDE 18:17:07 Deployment examples - jQuery, Wordpress, JVM 18:20:01 Jan: Programming required vs No Programming Required 18:20:08 +Debby 18:20:22 Judy: Programming required - none, some, lot. 18:23:00 Judy: W3C wants to promote the Gallery, and would like to flag that they are a W3C member, because that would help in promoting. 18:25:36 Jan: Authoring environment - drop text editor for something phrase that implies open type that is widely usable. 18:26:07 Judy: Jan, could you email the list with a proposal? 18:26:47 zakim, close this item 18:26:47 agendum 2 closed 18:26:48 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 18:26:50 3. Next Meetings [from jeanne] 18:26:52 zakim, take up next 18:26:52 agendum 3. "Next Meetings" taken up [from jeanne] 18:27:34 Judy: Workload: Setting up the Challenge, setting up the Gallery, maintaining the Gallery. What are all the steps so that we can make it as self-maintaining as possible 18:28:20 ... How can we plan each of these so that the submitters will give the information and users will take care of it when things are broken. 18:28:57 ... like a comment button if things are broken, how can we pre-arrange what happens when someone uses it? 18:29:49 July 1 availability? Jan - Canada Day holiday, No. John, maybe. 18:30:13 Peter is available 1 July. 18:31:16 Judy: Thought question: Given the kind of requirements we want to support on this, what is the best way to build it? Easy to maintain, easy to build. 18:31:46 John: It depends where we are going to put the Gallery and what it will support? 18:32:52 Judy: What questions should we have Debby ask her systems people? What are our options for hosting environment? What languages and tools can we use? 18:33:17 What database is supported? 18:35:24 Topic: Timelines 18:35:33 Peter: Do we have a revised timeline? 18:36:04 Judy: Jamal says that the FCC staff will need several weeks for review. 18:36:25 -Peter 18:36:27 -Judy 18:36:28 -John 18:36:28 -Debby 18:36:31 -Jan 18:36:39 Peter: Because there is an OCAD sponsored jQuery challenge in mid-July. We will want to promote this there. 18:36:58 rrsagent, make minutes 18:36:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/24-gallery-minutes.html jeanne 18:37:02 zakim, bye 18:37:02 leaving. As of this point the attendees were John, Judy, Jeanne, Peter, Jan, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Debby 18:37:02 Zakim has left #gallery 18:37:07 rrsagent, make minutes 18:37:07 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/24-gallery-minutes.html jeanne 18:37:24 rrsagent, make logs public 19:35:37 korn1 has left #gallery