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15:57:16 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:57:16 <trackbot> Date: 16 June 2011
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15:58:20 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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15:58:34 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
15:58:34 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:58:57 <rubys> chair: paulc
15:59:00 <rubys> scribenick: rubys
15:59:16 <dsinger_> zakim, who is here?
15:59:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], Sam, dsinger (muted)
15:59:17 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
15:59:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see Julian, dsinger_, Zakim, RRSAgent, rubys, paulc, dveditz, jsoref, MikeSmith, davidb, plh, Martijnc, cjones, Lachy, webben, Dashiva, jmb, CIA-1, arronei, jgraham,
15:59:23 <Zakim> ... gavin_, krijnh, pingo, Lutoma, shepazu_away, heycam|away, trackbot, inimino, [tm], Philip, gsnedders, hober, pimpbot, hsivonen, ed, Hixie
15:59:34 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011AprJun/0021.html
15:59:35 <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-06-16 CfC status, Call status, New Information status from Paul Cotton on 2011-06-15 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
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16:00:01 <Julian> Zakim, +1.251.280.aaaa is me
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16:01:09 <Zakim> +[Apple]
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16:03:00 <dsinger_> Zakim, I assume apple has mjs
16:03:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I assume apple has mjs', dsinger_
16:03:10 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
16:03:10 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
16:03:29 <adrianba> ScribeNick: adrianba
16:03:33 <adrianba> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
16:03:37 <adrianba> Chair: Paul Cotton
16:03:40 <adrianba> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011AprJun/0021.html
16:03:41 <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-06-16 CfC status, Call status, New Information status from Paul Cotton on 2011-06-15 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
16:03:45 <adrianba> Regrets+ Eliot_Graff
16:04:09 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
16:04:10 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:04:11 <Zakim> +Mike
16:04:38 <paulc> Zakim, who is on the call?
16:04:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], Sam, dsinger (muted), Julian, [Apple], [Microsoft.a], Mike
16:04:40 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
16:04:40 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
16:04:43 <Zakim> +??P15
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16:05:25 <MikeSmith> Zakim, Mike is me
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16:05:27 <janina> zakim, who's here?
16:05:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], Sam, dsinger (muted), Julian, [Apple], [Microsoft.a], MikeSmith, ??P15
16:05:29 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
16:05:29 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
16:05:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, adrianba, nonge, mjs, Julian, dsinger_, Zakim, RRSAgent, rubys, paulc, dveditz, jsoref, MikeSmith, davidb, plh, Martijnc, cjones, Lachy, webben, Dashiva, jmb,
16:05:35 <Zakim> ... CIA-1, arronei, jgraham, gavin_, krijnh, pingo, Lutoma, shepazu_away, heycam|away, trackbot, inimino, [tm], Philip, gsnedders, hober, pimpbot, hsivonen, ed, Hixie
16:05:49 <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, June 16
16:05:55 <rubys> paulc: none
16:05:58 <adrianba> ScribeNick:rubys
16:06:02 <janina> zakim, ??P15 is Janina
16:06:02 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
16:06:12 <adrianba> Scribe: Sam Ruby
16:06:17 <rubys> topic: New Issues This Week
16:06:31 <Zakim> +hober
16:07:11 <rubys> paulc: there are two TrackerRequests that will likely be converted to issues; this does not require chairs to do that
16:07:30 <rubys> paulc: in all likelihood, the chairs will move to a call for change proposals
16:07:39 <rubys> topic: Items Closed Last Week
16:07:41 <rubys> paulc: none
16:07:53 <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
16:08:09 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0092.html
16:08:10 <pimpbot> Title: CfC: Publish HTML5 Edition for Web Authors as First Public Working Draft from Sam Ruby on 2011-06-07 (public-html@w3.org from June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
16:08:42 <rubys> paulc: although it has been published, it has never been published as a public working draft
16:08:53 <Julian> q+
16:08:57 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0195.html
16:08:59 <pimpbot> Title: CfC addendum: Status wording for HTML5 Edition for Web Authors from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-06-14 (public-html@w3.org from June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
16:09:18 <rubys> paulc: maciej sent out two options, and so far we have input that some can't live with option 2
16:09:31 <rubys> paulc: the chairs will likely process this item on monday
16:09:35 <rubys> ack j
16:09:35 <paulc> ack julian
16:10:05 <rubys> julian: will we make any effort to make the content of the author spec consistent with the last call spec?
16:10:29 <MikeSmith> q+ to say yeah, doable
16:11:03 <rubys> paulc: mike has been traveling so we haven't been able to close this, but he has said that it was generated from an incorrect version
16:11:14 <Julian> +1 on both
16:11:28 <rubys> paulc: furthermore, it is our intent to make it look like a working draft (frontmatter, status, etc)
16:11:48 <rubys> ack M
16:11:48 <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say yeah, doable
16:12:13 <rubys> MikeSmith: I've been with unpredictable connectivity, the fact the documents were out of sync was not intentional
16:13:10 <rubys> MikeSmith: it is easy enough to do
16:13:48 <rubys> MikeSmith: as to style, we probably will need to do that, but part of the intent is to make it more author friendly, and the standard W3C style is not particularly friendly.... but we are likely to be stuck with that
16:14:19 <rubys> MikeSmith: this may make some more happy and some less happy, but I can get that work done
16:14:20 <Julian> can't we improve the style consistently for both?
16:14:47 <MikeSmith> Julian, yeah, wish we could, but that's a bigger fish to fry
16:14:57 <rubys> paulc: we want to thank you for doing all of the heavy lifting for the publication cycle; it takes a lot of work to produce 9 docs
16:15:35 <MikeSmith> :)
16:15:59 <rubys> topic: Items Closing Next Week
16:16:03 <rubys> issue-30?
16:16:03 <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
16:16:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
16:16:04 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30: Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:16:21 <rubys> paulc: call for counter proposals closes on the 25th... a week saturday
16:16:27 <rubys> issue-133?
16:16:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
16:16:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
16:16:28 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:16:39 <rubys> paulc: call for counter proposals also closes on the 25th
16:16:45 <rubys> issue-153?
16:16:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- raised
16:16:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
16:16:46 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:17:00 <rubys> paulc: call for proposals due June 25
16:17:04 <rubys> issue-154?
16:17:04 <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- raised
16:17:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
16:17:05 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:17:13 <rubys> paulc: call for proposals due June 25
16:17:27 <Julian> I will
16:17:28 <rubys> paulc: who on the call is actively working on these items?
16:17:57 <rubys> ted: I'm looking into doing a change proposal for issue 133; might be a zero edit proposal; I may ask for an extension
16:18:19 <rubys> paulc: please respond on the mailing list
16:18:26 <rubys> ted: will do
16:18:32 <Julian> I will work on CPs for ISSUE-153 and ISSUE-154 (which will be similar)
16:18:53 <rubys> paulc: responding on the mailing list will reduce duplicate work
16:19:15 <rubys> s/ted/hober/
16:19:38 <rubys> paulc: did you respond on the list?
16:19:48 <rubys> julian: I will do that
16:20:29 <rubys> paulc: if people need extensions, we encourage these requests to be made in advance
16:20:54 <rubys> paulc: we now have volunteers for all four calls
16:21:03 <rubys> topic: New Calls this week
16:21:06 <rubys> paulc: none
16:21:11 <rubys> topic: New Surveys this week
16:21:13 <rubys> paulc: none
16:21:18 <rubys> topic: Decisions this week
16:21:22 <rubys> paulc: None
16:21:35 <rubys> topic: Other Business
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16:21:46 <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/new-information-status.html
16:21:47 <pimpbot> Title: New Information Status (at dev.w3.org)
16:21:51 <Julian> q+ to talk about http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12952 which has TrackerRequest keyword
16:21:52 <pimpbot> 1112952: shelleyp, P3, RESOLVED WONTFIX, 13remove typemustmatch
16:21:57 <Zakim> +[Apple.a]
16:22:06 <dsinger> zakim, [apple.a] has dsinger
16:22:06 <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
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16:22:20 <rubys> paulc: can anybody give us status on any of the particular items?
16:22:40 <rubys> paulc: several of these are worked on by a11y subteams... janina can you provide status?
16:22:47 <rubys> janina: yes
16:23:00 <rubys> issue-31?
16:23:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- Author conformance requirements for the alt attribute on images -- closed
16:23:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
16:23:01 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-31: Author conformance requirements for the alt attribute on images - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:23:11 <rubys> paulc: there were two items on this issue
16:23:31 <rubys> paulc: first was "Adopt  the REQUIREMENTS portion of the "Provide detailed instructions and  examples for doing so to all readers of the HTML specification."
16:23:50 <rubys> paulc: "The presence of <meta name=generator> makes missing alt conforming"
16:24:20 <rubys> janina: don't know of any discussion on the first one, we do have intent to clean up Leif's change proposal and submit it.
16:24:26 <rubys> paulc: which subgroup?
16:24:30 <rubys> janina: text subteam
16:25:00 <rubys> paulc: can you take this one back to the a11y TF?
16:25:04 <rubys> janina: will do
16:25:07 <rubys> issue-32?
16:25:07 <trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- closed
16:25:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32
16:25:09 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-32: how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:25:48 <rubys> janina: we have found others to pick this item back up
16:25:58 <rubys> janina: again, the text subteam
16:26:04 <rubys> issue-56?
16:26:04 <trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. -- closed
16:26:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56
16:26:05 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-56: Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:26:23 <rubys> paulc: does anyone on the call know the status of this?
16:27:08 <rubys> julian: the IRI wg has a new co-chair, but I don't know if this has produced any concrete action yet
16:27:40 <rubys> paulc: I believe that the IRI WG wants to decrease the difference between the IRI spec and the HTML5 spec
16:27:51 <rubys> issue-80?
16:27:51 <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- closed
16:27:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
16:27:53 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-80: document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:28:29 <rubys> janina: this is from the text subteam, the proposal from Steve Faulkner is the one from the subteam
16:28:37 <rubys> paulc: we have two, one from Steve and one from Leif
16:28:59 <rubys> paulc: it would be helpful to converge on one within the subteam
16:29:17 <rubys> issue-120?
16:29:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- closed
16:29:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120
16:29:18 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-120: Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:29:38 <rubys> paulc: does anyone know if they are continuing to work on this?
16:29:52 <rubys> paulc: will mark that one for the chairs to follow up on
16:29:57 <rubys> issue-131?
16:29:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- closed
16:29:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
16:29:58 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-131: Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:30:23 <rubys> paulc: we have one change proposal from Richard
16:30:34 <rubys> janina: the canvas subteam is working on this
16:30:48 <rubys> janina: I don't know what the current status is
16:31:04 <rubys> issue-142?
16:31:04 <trackbot> ISSUE-142 -- No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) -- closed
16:31:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/142
16:31:06 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-142: No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:31:21 <rubys> janina: this is the media subteam... we have a markup proposal
16:31:47 <rubys> janina: we are trying to think this through end to end
16:32:17 <rubys> janina: I have an action item to get some people into a meeting next week
16:32:24 <rubys> paulc: good sign that you are making progress
16:32:28 <rubys> issue-155?
16:32:28 <trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- make <table border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"> conforming -- closed
16:32:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/155
16:32:29 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-155: make conforming - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:33:10 <rubys> paulc: this came from Tab.... I haven't seen any progress... anybody know what the status is?
16:33:26 <rubys> janina: the text subteam will look into this
16:33:56 <rubys> mjs: Given what he said, I'm not sure that tab intends to produce a reopen request on this one
16:34:04 <rubys> paulc: the chairs will follow up with Tab
16:34:44 <rubys> paulc: I'll explicity copy janina on the status
16:35:07 <rubys> paulc: you have a lot of items, we encourage you to spring loose as many as you can as early as possible
16:35:17 <rubys> paulc: any other items?
16:36:47 <rubys> janina: one more on issue-31 dealing with figcaption.... we generally agree with the decision, but there are other specific cases where figcaption is not acceptable as a fallback (e.g. in epub and scientific pubs).
16:37:46 <rubys> paulc: it either is a reconsider or a new bug
16:37:57 <rubys> janina: we will raise it more broadly on the WG lists
16:38:21 <rubys> paulc: once we see it on the list, we will start  to track it
16:38:41 <rubys> paulc: this discussion has been useful, and the chairs will follow up on the remaining two items
16:38:42 <Julian> q?
16:39:00 <rubys> ack j
16:39:00 <Zakim> Julian, you wanted to talk about http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12952 which has TrackerRequest keyword
16:39:01 <pimpbot> 1112952: shelleyp, P3, RESOLVED WONTFIX, 13remove typemustmatch
16:39:03 <paulc> ack Julian
16:39:36 <rubys> julian: we can avoid having this one be a tracker item if it is reverted
16:40:24 <rubys> paulc: the chairs will look into this...we are working on the decision policy
16:40:50 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12935
16:40:51 <pimpbot> 1112935: bzbarsky, P2, RESOLVED WONTFIX, 13<rt> should not auto-close ancestors
16:41:58 <rubys> rubys: the status on this one looks confused... TrackerRequest was added and removed
16:42:08 <rubys> paulc: any other business?
16:42:20 <rubys> topic: chair and scribe for next week
16:42:34 <rubys> mjs: I will chair next week
16:42:44 <rubys> paulc: volunteer to scribe?
16:43:01 <rubys> paulc: I'll scribe
16:43:09 <rubys> topic: adjournment
16:43:18 <rubys> paulc: we are adjourned
16:43:24 <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
16:43:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/16-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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16:43:33 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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16:43:35 <Zakim> -hober
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16:45:10 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, dsinger, paulc, Julian, [Apple], [Microsoft], adrianba, MikeSmith, Janina, hober
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16:54:46 <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12935] <rt> should not auto-close ancestors" (4 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0595.html>
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17:24:54 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12963] hola no se k es un feedakv <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0602.html> 4** "[Bug 12935] <rt> should not auto-close ancestors" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0601.html> 4** [Bug 12949] click() shouldn't have special powers over dispatching click event manually <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0599.htm
17:55:00 <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12949] click() shouldn't have special powers over dispatching click event manually" (3 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0607.html> 4** [Bug 12973] New: The IDL parts in this section contain what I believe to be non-valid WebIDL, specifically "Element?" and "object?" - both interface types and object are already nullable, so the ? is invalid. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/publ
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18:15:28 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 24301afe22c4 r6240 10/ (index complete.html source): 
18:15:28 <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (1) Make textarea and input consistent. (Interop here is a disaster currently, so we can change this with impunity.)
18:15:28 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12423
18:15:28 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * f29983f52246 r6241 10/ (index complete.html source): [e] (0) typo
18:15:29 <pimpbot> 1112423: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13Setting .value on a textarea should set the dirty flag to true
18:25:09 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12901] Keep up the great work... One suggestion. Could you please align the Microdata part of the spec with Microformats and/or RDFa, instead of jnust defining yet another random markup. It would be really helpful for alot of developers who have invested time an <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0620.html> 4** [Bug 12429] Should cloning properties preserve configurability, readonlyness, etc? <11http://list
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18:30:24 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * c08679519c32 r6242 10/ (index complete.html source): 
18:30:24 <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Apparently it isn't entirely clear that margins at the top and bottom of an element must be vertical margins.
18:30:24 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12470
18:30:25 <pimpbot> 1112470: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13In the last paragraph, please add the word "vertical", since the intent is apparently that _vertical_ margins at the top or bottom of body, td, or th elements be collapsed to zero. That's what browsers do in quirks mode. But horizontal margins are honored
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18:55:16 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12971] A lot of times, perhaps the majority of the time, authors use <em> or <strong> to make text italic or bold, when in fact the intention has nothing to do with emphasizing or strongly emphasizing the text. The result is terrible in aural browsers and extrem <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0632.html> 4** "[Bug 12949] click() shouldn't have special powers over dispatching click event manually" (2 messa
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20:25:37 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0633.html>
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21:25:51 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12948] New feature request: GROUP tag What I'd like to achieve in HTML is to easily access a group of elements via Javascript using a single parent element (GROUP). The GROUP element would not under any circumstance affect the layout of the page, and would not b <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0635.html> 4** [Bug 12885] Add a new input type=numeric <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzi
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21:45:30 <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Clarify media fragment video track selection.
21:45:30 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12364
21:45:31 <pimpbot> 1112364: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13<video> which is "the first selected video track"?
21:45:31 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 72398726128f r6244 10/ (index complete.html source): [e] (0) selectedIndex typos
21:45:33 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 3258ee602a0f r6245 10/ (index complete.html source): 
21:45:36 <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) index was missing 'muted'
21:45:39 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12498
21:45:40 <pimpbot> 1112498: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13<audio> and <video> are missing muted="" in the element summary table
21:55:59 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12547] <video> MEDIA CONTROLLER requires readyState for grouped multitrack <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0649.html> 4** [Bug 12547] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires readyState for grouped multitrack <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0648.html> 4** [Bug 12546] <video> MEDIA CONTROLLER requires autoplay attribute for grouped multitrack <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publi
22:15:19 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 5817cb18aa63 r6246 10/ (index complete.html source): 
22:15:19 <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Provide an .onended event handler for MediaController to expose the event more easily.
22:15:19 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12548
22:15:20 <pimpbot> 1112548: jfoliot, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, 13<video> MEDIA CONTROLLER requires onended event
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22:26:07 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12974] Allow placeholder="" on <input type=number> <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0658.html> 4** "[Bug 12390] A sandboxed MIME type attribute would be better than a fully qualified MIME type" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0657.html> 4** [Bug 12868] Allow placeholder for color and date+ types <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-h
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22:45:19 <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Add placeholder='' support to type=number.
22:45:19 <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12974
22:45:20 <pimpbot> 1112974: eoconnor, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, 13Allow placeholder="" on <input type=number>
22:56:14 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12948] New feature request: GROUP tag What I'd like to achieve in HTML is to easily access a group of elements via Javascript using a single parent element (GROUP). The GROUP element would not under any circumstance affect the layout of the page, and would not b <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jun/0664.html> 4** [Bug 12885] WF3: Add a new input type=numeric <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-
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23:15:16 <CIA-1> html-spec: 03ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2af4eefbcbf6 r6249 10/ (source complete.html): [giow] (1) EventSource: only allow text/event-stream with no parameters or with a charset=utf-8 parameter.
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