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14:49:50 <ericP> Zakim, this will be hcls
14:49:50 <Zakim> "hcls" matches SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, and SW_HCLS()11:00AM, ericP
14:49:55 <ericP> Zakim, this will be sw_hcls
14:49:55 <Zakim> "sw_hcls" matches SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, and SW_HCLS()11:00AM, ericP
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15:02:10 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
15:02:41 <Zakim> sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is
15:02:56 <ericP> Zakim, this is sw_hcls()
15:03:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see BobP, RRSAgent, Zakim, ericP
15:03:37 <Zakim> ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM
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15:05:35 <dbooth> zakim, who is here?
15:05:43 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/HCLSIGCharter-proposal
15:05:55 <Zakim> +DBooth
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15:06:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bob_Powers, +1.617.324.aaaa, ??P14, DBooth, +1.301.443.aabb
15:06:31 <iker> zakim, P14 it is me
15:06:54 <Zakim> DBooth should now be muted
15:06:54 <BobP> scribenick BobP
15:07:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see DaveHauNCI, iker, dbooth, BobP, RRSAgent, Zakim, ericP
15:07:14 <Zakim> I don't understand 'P14 it is me', iker
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15:08:31 <BobP> ericP: Brag sheet for TMO, or high level use cases. What is the next doc to write?
15:08:45 <iker> me neither
15:09:09 <BobP> ... humm,,,
15:09:22 <dbooth> I think stepping through would make sense
15:10:12 <BobP> Heard from Michel and Scott.
15:10:16 <dbooth> I think reviewing the documents would make sense.
15:11:07 <BobP> ... presented at the meeting in London. Protocol-driven research
15:11:30 <BobP> ... modify the standard to fit to the BRIDG model
15:11:46 <BobP> ericP: Liason to them? for charter
15:12:09 <Zakim> +??P57
15:12:33 <BobP> FDA in long term needs to expand regulatory, semantics, etc
15:12:57 <BobP> ericP: Two diff communities for similar stuff.
15:13:33 <BobP> Onts. cover tissue, main touch points to bridg, biobanking
15:14:00 <BobP> ericP: Experiments need to capture context; touches on Pfizer, Pistoia want to do
15:14:42 <BobP> ... having worked out onts, given schema for graph struct, ont for grounding
15:15:08 <BobP> ... then intersection between bridg and lsdam
15:15:47 <BobP> HCLS work shines; collaboration could bring strengths to table
15:16:00 <BobP> ... harmonize to one project, maybe
15:16:14 <BobP> ericP: Give us use cases
15:16:50 <BobP> Harmonizes to HL7 RIM modeling; possibly FDA, could contribute to effort
15:18:10 <BobP> Michel: Was invited w Scott, Alan Ruttenberg
15:18:36 <BobP> ... not clear what the mandate was. Ended up disseminating to WGs
15:19:04 <BobP> ... WGs on imaging, provenance; I went to WG on patient care
15:19:39 <BobP> ... snomed, etc; They don't yet grok semweb. Explained for vocab managment, integration
15:20:18 <BobP> ... some nice work, to mark up notes w bioPortal vocab; pile of codes for visits
15:20:30 <BobP> ... can do longitudinal with that.
15:20:52 <BobP> ... also tried to get patient record data, but couldn't quite
15:21:21 <BobP> ... see HCLS as a potential partner; need to visibly engage these groups and work w them
15:21:30 <BobP> ericP: Targets?
15:22:04 <BobP> Michel: Have a diversity of interests; can help them develop. Interested in SADI etc
15:22:30 <BobP> ... linked data projects, don't quite understand the governance, lack of support, etc
15:22:46 <BobP> ... some things that we need to work out to ensure the confidence in our product
15:23:03 <BobP> ericP: Produce less LOD, but better life cycle?
15:23:42 <BobP> Michel: Perhaps. Notes on how to accomplish these tasks; we still should describe how to use tech
15:24:05 <BobP> ericP: Matthais is excited w clincical decision support
15:24:34 <BobP> Michel: Meeting kept pushing on how it helps patient care; tech details
15:24:47 <BobP> ... we have tech, not applying correctly?
15:25:20 <BobP> ... patientsLikeMe, how can we make it better for patients, as opposed to for doctors
15:25:58 <BobP> ericP: Doctor work will help patients; but patient appeal would be tools that allow them to explore their disease
15:26:29 <BobP> ... most immediate case for patient would be <disease-centric?>
15:27:03 <BobP> ... also patient registries would allow them to contribute to massive data
15:27:20 <BobP> Michel: Need to address improved care rather than research
15:27:47 <BobP> ... patients are very active. Agree that marketplace over patient data would be valuable
15:28:20 <BobP> ... but not clear to me that beyond condition, treatment, outcome would be interesting
15:28:36 <BobP> ... but - are interested in clinical trials.
15:29:04 <dbooth> q+ to comment on use cases document: http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/HighLevelUseCases
15:29:13 <BobP> ONC is started to employ, >2015
15:30:21 <BobP> ericP: Chartering. Thx to Dave and Michel.
15:30:27 <dbooth> ack dbooth
15:30:28 <Zakim> dbooth, you wanted to comment on use cases document: http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/HighLevelUseCases
15:30:49 <BobP> dbooth: Want to comment on use cases
15:30:55 <dbooth> Personalized medicine
15:30:59 <BobP> ... two other things to include:
15:31:25 <BobP> ... somewhat related to section on data ownership. Important potential here.
15:31:30 <dbooth> Healthcare quality measurement
15:31:54 <BobP> ... partially mentioned in pharmaco-vigilance
15:32:05 <BobP> ... would like to see HC quality measurement in title
15:32:52 <BobP> ericP: Same data, same mechanism; however the way we talk is different when talk to different communities
15:33:09 <DaveHauNCI> Report on Learning Healthcare System (Institute of Medicine):  http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2011/Digital-Infrastructure-for-a-Learning-Health-System.aspx
15:33:27 <DaveHauNCI> ONC slide deck on Learning Healthcare System:  http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Quality/VSRT/Digital%20Infrastructure%20Release/Charles%20Friedman.pdf
15:34:53 <BobP> dbooth: Research and bedside have different liability profiles
15:35:54 <BobP> ericP: Next steps on charter. Couple of months extension; draft is pretty there
15:36:19 <BobP> ... is it optimal? Expect to get warm-fuzzy soon
15:36:50 <BobP> ... opportunity for outreach: brag-sheets for translational and high-level use cases
15:37:33 <BobP> ... give us the necessary text for customers, outreach material more important than charter
15:37:57 <BobP> Michel: Will comment on docs
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15:38:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Bob_Powers, +1.617.324.aaaa, DBooth, +1.301.443.aabb
15:38:35 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:39:27 <dbooth> Meeting: HCLS
15:39:37 <dbooth> Chair: EricP
15:41:17 <dbooth> Present: Michel Dumontier, Iker, Dave Hau, EricP, Bob_Powers, +1.617.324.aaaa, DBooth, +1.301.443.aabb
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