19:26:24 RRSAgent has joined #webperf 19:26:24 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/06/15-webperf-irc 19:26:33 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 19:26:37 scribe: JatinderMann 19:26:45 present+ Jatinder Mann 19:27:17 agenda+ Discuss Unified Proposal. 19:27:31 agenda+ Discuss Battery Status specification feedback. 19:27:41 agenda+ Discuss Page Visibility Last Call. 19:27:52 agenda+ Discuss requestAnimationFrame open issues. 20:00:32 plh has joined #webperf 20:00:39 zakim, list conferences 20:00:39 I see no active conferences 20:00:40 scheduled at this time are IA_Fonts()4:00PM, RWC_web-per(WPWG)4:00PM, WF_(COMM)4:00PM, INC_SSN()4:00PM 20:00:52 zakim, this will be web-per 20:00:52 ok, plh; I see RWC_web-per(WPWG)4:00PM scheduled to start now 20:01:24 RWC_web-per(WPWG)4:00PM has now started 20:01:32 +[Microsoft] 20:01:45 +Plh 20:02:00 +AZ 20:02:20 present+ Philippe 20:02:23 present+ Tony 20:02:30 + +1.650.214.aaaa 20:02:38 simonjam has joined #webperf 20:02:39 present+ JamesS 20:02:44 zakim, aaaa is James 20:02:44 +James; got it 20:03:14 zakim, Microsoft holds Jatinder and Nic 20:03:14 +Jatinder, Nic; got it 20:03:44 Topic: Discuss Unified Proposal. 20:04:09 Jatinder: Thank you James for putting the time into formulating this proposal. As per action items from the last conference call, we have been actively evaluating this proposal. We had responded to the mailing list with our concerns: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2011Jun/0055.html 20:13:10 + +1.512.851.aabb 20:25:48 -[Microsoft] 20:25:50 -James 20:25:50 -AZ 20:25:54 -Plh 20:26:25 - +1.512.851.aabb 20:26:27 RWC_web-per(WPWG)4:00PM has ended 20:26:29 Attendees were Plh, AZ, +1.650.214.aaaa, James, Jatinder, Nic, +1.512.851.aabb 20:35:52 Jatinder: In general, there are a few main issues. The proposal attempts to create a single interface that all Timings must use for data collection, storage and retrieval. At first glance, the unified interface looked like a very good idea. However, we are concerned that this single interface constrains current and future Timings to be generalized and risks losing, or making it difficult, to have access to functionality specific to that Timing. A widget 20:35:58 Jatinder: The single, circular buffer is also a large concern, as mentioned in the mailing list. 20:36:12 JamesS: A single buffer isn't required, we can change that. 20:38:34 James: Having an inheritance model will take us part of the way to where I'd like this to be. 20:39:51 Jatinder: I can take an action item to include an inheritance model into our current specification. I will share that proposal on the mailng list. 21:00:44 RWC_web-per(WPWG)4:00PM has now started 21:00:51 + +1.650.253.aaaa 21:01:15 + +1.512.851.aabb 21:01:19 +Plh 21:01:36 +??P2 21:01:38 Zakim, ??P2 is me 21:01:38 +heycam; got it 21:02:04 zakim, aaaa is probably Arvind 21:02:04 +Arvind?; got it 21:02:11 +[Microsoft] 21:03:36 zakim, aabb is probably Kyle 21:03:36 +Kyle?; got it 21:07:16 q+ 21:09:09 [[ 21:09:10 As examples, the attribute returns true when: 21:09:10 The User Agent is minimized. 21:09:10 The User Agent is not minimized, but the page is on a background tab. 21:09:10 The Operating System lock screen is shown. 21:09:10 The User Agent is minimized and a preview is shown. 21:09:12 ]] 21:09:32 (for the hidden attribute) 21:10:12 q- 21:13:26 and also transparent window 21:28:46 actually, opera allows one to minimize a tab 21:42:16 -heycam 21:42:53 +??P2 21:42:55 Zakim, ??P2 is me 21:42:55 +heycam; got it 22:01:03 -Arvind? 22:01:52 -heycam 22:04:12 -[Microsoft] 22:04:14 -Plh 22:04:15 -Kyle? 22:04:15 RWC_web-per(WPWG)4:00PM has ended 22:04:16 Attendees were +1.650.253.aaaa, +1.512.851.aabb, Plh, heycam, Arvind?, [Microsoft], Kyle? 23:09:20 zakim, generate minutes 23:09:20 I don't understand 'generate minutes', JatinderMann 23:09:25 rrsagent, generate minutes 23:09:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/15-webperf-minutes.html JatinderMann 23:09:34 rrsagent, please part 23:09:34 I see no action items