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13:50:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
13:50:10 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
13:50:11 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
13:50:11 <trackbot> Date: 15 June 2011
13:50:30 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0046.html
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13:51:10 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:51:14 <fjh> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:51:20 <Suresh> Present+ Suresh_Chitturi
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13:56:51 <Zakim> +??P4
13:56:58 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
13:57:05 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P4 is me
13:57:05 <Zakim> +[Vodaphone]
13:57:05 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
13:57:11 <Zakim> +??P5
13:57:19 <fjh> zakim, ??P5 is me
13:57:19 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
13:57:24 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:57:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, [Vodaphone], fjh
13:57:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see AnssiK, darobin, Suresh, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, richt, dom, lgombos, trackbot, ingmar, ilkka
13:57:25 <ernesto_jimenez> Present+ Ernesto_Jimenez
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13:57:48 <fjh> zakim, [Vodaphone] is ernesto_jimenez
13:57:48 <Zakim> +ernesto_jimenez; got it
13:57:52 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:57:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, ernesto_jimenez, fjh
13:57:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see wonsuk, AnssiK, darobin, Suresh, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, richt, dom, lgombos, trackbot, ingmar, ilkka
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14:00:36 <Zakim> + +1.408.216.aabb
14:00:41 <wonsuk> wonsuk
14:00:43 <Suresh> zakim, aabb is Suresh
14:00:43 <Zakim> +Suresh; got it
14:00:44 <dom> Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
14:00:47 <dom> Zakim, ??P12 is me
14:00:47 <Zakim> +dom; got it
14:00:57 <fjh> zakim, aaaa is wonsuk
14:00:57 <Zakim> +wonsuk; got it
14:01:01 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:01:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, ernesto_jimenez, fjh, wonsuk, dom, Suresh
14:01:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sungok_You, wonsuk, AnssiK, darobin, Suresh, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, richt, dom, lgombos, trackbot, ingmar, ilkka
14:01:05 <Sungok_You> Present+ Sungok_You
14:01:17 <Zakim> +??P24
14:01:49 <richt> Present+ Richard_Tibbett
14:01:50 <richt> zakim, P24 is me
14:01:50 <Zakim> sorry, richt, I do not recognize a party named 'P24'
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14:01:51 <Zakim> +??P25
14:01:54 <richt> zakim, ??P24 is me
14:01:54 <Zakim> +richt; got it
14:02:05 <Zakim> +??P26
14:02:11 <darobin> Zakim, ??P26 is me
14:02:11 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
14:02:13 <Sungok_You> zakim, ??P25 is me.
14:02:13 <Zakim> +Sungok_You; got it
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14:03:23 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:03:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, ernesto_jimenez, fjh, wonsuk, dom, Suresh, richt, Sungok_You, darobin
14:03:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see wonsuk, Cathy, Sungok_You, AnssiK, darobin, Suresh, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, richt, dom, lgombos, trackbot, ingmar, ilkka
14:03:46 <darobin> Scribe: Suresh
14:03:50 <darobin> ScribeNick: Suresh 
14:03:56 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
14:04:11 <fjh> 19-21 July F2F logistics, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Apr/0000.html
14:04:11 <fjh> Please register -  http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/paris-2011/
14:04:59 <fjh> Chartering
14:04:59 <fjh> see http://www.w3.org/2010/11/DeviceAPICharter.html 
14:05:00 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2011AprJun/0041.html
14:05:10 <dom> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/dap-2/results
14:05:12 <Suresh> Topic: Chartering
14:05:42 <Suresh> The deadline extended to June 19, 2011
14:05:57 <fjh> Discovery API demo, Dave Raggett
14:05:57 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0034.html
14:06:11 <Zakim> +Cecile_Marc
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14:06:28 <cmarc> Present+ Cecile_Marc
14:06:38 <fjh> implementation wiki is here http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/ImplementationStatus
14:06:41 <Zakim> + +1.781.266.aacc
14:06:45 <fjh> please update if you know of implementation
14:06:49 <Cathy> Present+ Cathy_Chan
14:07:03 <Cathy> zakim, aacc is me
14:07:03 <Zakim> +Cathy; got it
14:07:20 <fjh> Welcome new DAP WG members
14:07:20 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0045.html
14:07:23 <Zakim> -wonsuk
14:08:14 <Suresh> Topic: Minutes Approval
14:08:17 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/att-0023/minutes-2011-06-08.html
14:08:17 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 8 June  2011 are approved
14:08:29 <Suresh> RESOLUTION: Minutes from 8 June  2011 are approved
14:08:41 <Suresh> Topic: Contacts
14:08:46 <fjh> CfC concluded, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011May/0011.html
14:09:08 <fjh> remaining edits, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0050.html
14:09:31 <Suresh> richt: do not have enough time at the moment, encourage anyone to (co-edit)
14:09:38 <fjh> ACTION-408?
14:09:38 <trackbot> ACTION-408 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to check if dom + Suresh'es comments are integrated -- due 2011-06-15 -- OPEN
14:09:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/408
14:09:44 <fjh> ACTION-408 closed
14:09:45 <trackbot> ACTION-408 Check if dom + Suresh'es comments are integrated closed
14:10:17 <Suresh> Robin: i think i can get them done this week
14:10:35 <Zakim> + +82.31.30.1.aadd
14:10:52 <Suresh> fjh: they are minor?
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14:11:41 <fjh> suggest we make decision re updatedSince
14:12:28 <richt> dom, I agree with your proposal
14:12:31 <wonsuk_> Present+ Wonsuk_Lee
14:12:41 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:12:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, ernesto_jimenez, fjh, dom, Suresh, richt, Sungok_You, darobin, Cecile_Marc, Cathy, +82.31.30.1.aadd
14:12:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see wonsuk_, cmarc, wonsuk, Cathy, Sungok_You, AnssiK, darobin, Suresh, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, richt, dom, lgombos, trackbot, ingmar, ilkka
14:13:05 <fjh> zakim, aadd is wonsuk
14:13:05 <Zakim> +wonsuk; got it
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14:13:46 <Suresh> richt: id would be useful for writing
14:14:23 <Suresh> Also we need to atleast keep name or displayName
14:14:51 <Kihong_Kwon> Present+ Kihong_Kwon
14:15:11 <fjh> s/atleast/at least
14:15:43 <Suresh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0050.html
14:15:43 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to make all the changes to Contacts from Dom's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0050.html
14:15:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-415 - Make all the changes to Contacts from Dom's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0050.html [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-22].
14:15:45 <Suresh> RESOLUTION: Accept all changes in Dom's mail
14:16:45 <Suresh> robin: can we publish LC after the changes?
14:16:48 <dom> [we already resolved to go to LC last week http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/att-0023/minutes-2011-06-08.html#item03 ]
14:17:22 <Suresh> +1 to LC (if there are any comments we can address them during LC)
14:17:28 <fjh> suggesting WG members have a chance to make sure changes correct not questioning Last Call decision
14:17:45 <Suresh> Topic: Battery Status
14:18:00 <fjh> CfC until 29 June, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0035.html
14:18:00 <fjh> Message to Web Performance WG, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0036.html
14:18:01 <Suresh> robin: Some good feedback received....
14:18:33 <Suresh> ...also implementations underway
14:18:46 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/ImplementationStatus
14:18:48 <AnssiK> zakim, who's on the call
14:18:49 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's on the call', AnssiK
14:18:55 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/ImplementationStatus
14:18:56 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:18:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see AnssiK, ernesto_jimenez, fjh, dom, Suresh, richt, Sungok_You, darobin, Cecile_Marc, Cathy, wonsuk
14:18:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see Kihong_Kwon, wonsuk_, cmarc, wonsuk, Cathy, Sungok_You, AnssiK, darobin, Suresh, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, ernesto_jimenez, richt, dom, lgombos, trackbot, ingmar, ilkka
14:19:49 <Suresh> Topic: Applications menus API
14:19:57 <fjh> Clarification, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0032.html
14:20:11 <Suresh> robin: members are free to contribute to this area
14:20:23 <Suresh> Topic: Network Information API feedback
14:20:29 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jun/0039.html
14:20:33 <dom> q+ to clarify terminology
14:20:42 <fjh> ack dom
14:20:42 <Zakim> dom, you wanted to clarify terminology
14:20:46 <Suresh> robin: little worried about fingerprinting discussions
14:21:42 <Suresh> dom: fingerprinting is when data is combined from browser to identify the user, connection info is not very relevant in my opinion
14:23:02 <Suresh> robin: agree this is below the bar, and also agree to have a privacy framework around this topic
14:23:48 <Suresh> robin: it may be considered "fingerprinting" but agree it is very minor
14:24:06 <Suresh> fjh: will take a look at privacy issues
14:24:13 <fjh> action: fjh to investigate privacy fingerprinting issues related to DAP
14:24:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-416 - Investigate privacy fingerprinting issues related to DAP [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2011-06-22].
14:24:28 <fjh> Topic: Adjourn
14:24:35 <Zakim> -dom
14:24:36 <Zakim> -wonsuk
14:24:38 <Zakim> -darobin
14:24:40 <Zakim> -richt
14:24:42 <Zakim> -Suresh
14:24:43 <Zakim> -ernesto_jimenez
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14:25:08 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:25:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
14:25:12 <Zakim> -fjh
14:25:54 <Zakim> -Cathy
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14:27:42 <fjh> rrsagent,, generate minutes
14:27:42 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand ', generate minutes', fjh.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:27:57 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:27:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
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14:30:09 <fjh> s/wonsuk//
14:31:24 <fjh> s/Chartering/Topic: Charter
14:31:30 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:31:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/15-dap-minutes.html fjh
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