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19:51:53 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
19:51:53 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 51 minutes ago
19:51:58 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
19:52:19 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011AprJun/0051.html
19:53:35 <Jan> Regrets: Sarah P.
20:00:06 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
20:00:46 <jeanne> jeanne has joined #au
20:02:15 <jeanne> zakim, start meeting
20:02:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'start meeting', jeanne
20:02:29 <jeanne> trackbot, start meeting
20:02:32 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
20:02:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be AUWG
20:02:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM already started
20:02:35 <trackbot> Meeting: Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
20:02:35 <trackbot> Date: 06 June 2011
20:03:03 <Jan> zakim, code?
20:03:03 <Zakim> the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Jan
20:03:30 <jeanne> zakim, who is here?
20:03:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
20:03:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot
20:04:18 <Greg> Greg has joined #au
20:04:37 <jeanne> present+ Greg, Tim, Jan, Jeanne, Alex, Cherie
20:05:13 <Jan> Chair: Jan Richards
20:05:29 <Jan> Scribe: jeanne
20:05:29 <jeanne> scribe: jeanne
20:06:12 <jeanne> topic: Extending the public comments
20:09:58 <jeanne> JR: We have only received comments from 1 person, we could postpone 2 weeks and send a reminder. 
20:11:02 <jeanne> Alex: We are still reviewing.
20:11:24 <jeanne> Greg:  How about 2nd week in July?  
20:11:41 <jeanne> Jeanne: I was hoping to just do 2 weeks.  
20:13:24 <jeanne> Greg: We have to address Andrew's comments which missed the deadline last time. 
20:13:51 <jeanne> Jan: What if we re0submitted Andrew's comments
20:14:40 <jeanne> Greg: that would be ok.  
20:15:02 <jeanne> ... July 1 would be a natural stop, the end of a quarter
20:15:39 <jeanne> Jeanne:  I really want to keep pushing to move forward - if we wait too long, it won't be urgent. 
20:16:48 <jeanne> Jan: It has already been May 24 deadline, so 2 weeks is a month delay.
20:18:32 <jeanne> ... maybe we should let it go. We are still making changes based on the Microsoft comments.  Incorporate the comments we have received in the current discussion
20:19:03 <Jan> Resolution: Not to re-open comment period on the April 26 public WD.
20:22:11 <jeanne> Greg: schedule?
20:22:36 <jeanne> Jan: Finish the comments, publish another draft in 4 weeks and then if there are no comments, we can go to Last Call. 
20:22:52 <jeanne> Alex: I don't think this group can afford to cycle another Last Call.
20:22:58 <Jan> Topic: Open Action Review
20:23:00 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/tracker/actions/open
20:23:49 <Jan> Topic: Survey reviewing the AA comments
20:23:51 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110503/results#xq30
20:28:06 <jeanne> Jan: Jutta wants this to be AA
20:28:37 <jeanne> Alex: Metadata is a vague term, when you only need an association.
20:28:46 <jeanne> Jan: I'm open to other terms. 
20:29:47 <Jan> Action: JR to reword using programmatically associated or similar term (AL may suggest term)
20:29:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-340 - Reword using programmatically associated or similar term (AL may suggest term) [on Jan Richards - due 2011-06-13].
20:30:00 <Jan> Topic: B.2.2 - GL28
20:30:57 <Jan> Resolution: Accept the response to GL28
20:31:03 <Jan> Topic: B.2.2 - GL29
20:31:27 <Jan> Resolution: Accept the response to GL29
20:31:35 <Jan> Topic: B.2.2 - OC23
20:32:12 <Jan> Skip over this due to action item on MS49
20:32:21 <Jan> Topic: B.2.2 - IBM53
20:33:29 <jeanne> Alex: Dynamic user content is the new issue.  
20:34:16 <jeanne> Jan: The checker can only give status on what the checker can check.  Even if the content is dynamic, the report can still be generated. 
20:34:48 <jeanne> Alex: Then it has to be in a slice of time that has to be acknowledged and the association may not be able to be made
20:34:49 <Jan> Action: JR to acknowledge that dynamic content does provide a challenge to determining a "status"
20:34:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-341 - Acknowledge that dynamic content does provide a challenge to determining a "status" [on Jan Richards - due 2011-06-13].
20:35:07 <Jan> Topic: B.2.2 - IBM54 
20:35:24 <Jan> Skip over this due to action item on MS49
20:35:33 <Jan> Topic: B.2.4 - MS50
20:39:44 <jeanne> Jan: What I mean is that the program would save the association of alt text with the image
20:40:15 <Jan> Action: AL to look into implementations of alt-text association saving (B.2.3.4 Save for Reuse)
20:40:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-342 - Look into implementations of alt-text association saving (B.2.3.4 Save for Reuse) [on Alex Li - due 2011-06-13].
20:40:16 <jeanne> Jeanne: Every clipboard gallery that I have worked with saves the title of  the image - if for no other reason than for searching.  
20:40:25 <Jan> Topic: B.2.4 - GL30
20:41:32 <Jan> Wait for AL's action.
20:41:40 <Jan> Topic: B.2.4 - OC26
20:42:29 <Jan> Wait for AL's action.
20:42:37 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - GG7
20:44:56 <Jan> GG7
20:47:12 <jeanne> Cherie: you can ignore my commment then.
20:47:29 <Jan> Resolution: All accept response to GG7.
20:47:40 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - UAWG6
20:48:31 <jeanne> JAn: I believe we changed the definition of prominence on the list.  
20:48:42 <Jan> Action: JR to look up what was decided about prominence and apply it to UAWG6
20:48:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-343 - Look up what was decided about prominence and apply it to UAWG6 [on Jan Richards - due 2011-06-13].
20:48:52 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - MS51
20:50:05 <jeanne> Jan will reword with a  standard conditional
20:50:32 <Jan> Action: JR to reword with conditional on potential for accessibility problems.
20:50:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-344 - Reword with conditional on potential for accessibility problems. [on Jan Richards - due 2011-06-13].
20:50:44 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - MS52
20:51:34 <Jan> Wait for AL's action.
20:51:44 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - MS53
20:52:16 <Jan> Wait for JR's action on prominence.
20:52:23 <Jan> B.2.5 - MS54
20:52:28 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - MS54
20:54:37 <jeanne> Jan: some templates won't let you post until you have entered some minimal information. That's what I meant by minimal instructions. 
20:55:01 <jeanne> Alex: It makes sense to me here, but I won't know what a minimal instruction when there is a blank template. 
20:55:32 <jeanne> Jan: As soon as it reaches the point of publishing, that is when we have to test it.  
20:55:59 <jeanne> ... in the case of blank templates, there would be no instructions
20:56:26 <Jan> Action: JR clarify for accessible templates that there may be no instructions for blank document type templates.
20:56:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-345 - Clarify for accessible templates that there may be no instructions for blank document type templates. [on Jan Richards - due 2011-06-13].
20:56:43 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - MS55
20:57:55 <Jan> Action: JR to propose conditional on inaccessible potential
20:57:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-346 - Propose conditional on inaccessible potential [on Jan Richards - due 2011-06-13].
20:58:05 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - MS56
20:58:36 <Jan> Wait for other answers.
20:58:46 <Jan> Topic: B.2.5 - GL41
21:01:06 <Jan> Didn't finish GL41...
21:02:06 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
21:02:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-minutes.html jeanne
21:02:22 <jeanne> rrsagent, make logs public
21:02:27 <Jan> me jeanne, you are wrapping up?
21:02:49 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
21:02:50 <Zakim> Attendees were 
21:03:03 <jeanne> zakim, bye
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21:03:12 <jeanne> rrsagent, bye
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-actions.rdf :
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to reword using programmatically associated or similar term (AL may suggest term) [1]
21:03:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-irc#T20-29-47
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to acknowledge that dynamic content does provide a challenge to determining a "status" [2]
21:03:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-irc#T20-34-49
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AL to look into implementations of alt-text association saving (B.2.3.4 Save for Reuse) [3]
21:03:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-irc#T20-40-15
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to look up what was decided about prominence and apply it to UAWG6 [4]
21:03:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-irc#T20-48-42
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to reword with conditional on potential for accessibility problems. [5]
21:03:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-irc#T20-50-32
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR clarify for accessible templates that there may be no instructions for blank document type templates. [6]
21:03:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-irc#T20-56-26
21:03:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR to propose conditional on inaccessible potential [7]
21:03:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/06-au-irc#T20-57-55