12:29:05 RRSAgent has joined #er 12:29:05 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-er-irc 12:29:07 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:29:07 Zakim has joined #er 12:29:09 Zakim, this will be 3794 12:29:09 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 1 minute 12:29:10 Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference 12:29:10 Date: 25 May 2011 12:29:31 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2011May/0044.html 12:29:36 chair: Shadi 12:29:40 carlosV has joined #er 12:29:45 regrets: Rui, Kostas 12:30:28 WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started 12:30:35 +??P8 12:30:39 agenda+ Welcome 12:30:39 agenda+ EARL 1.0 Last Call comments 12:30:39 agenda+ WAI evaluation and testing activities 12:30:39 agenda+ WCAG 2.0 Evaluation Methodology Task Force (Eval TF) 12:30:39 agenda+ Upcoming meeting schedule 12:30:46 zakim, call shadi-617 12:30:46 ok, shadi; the call is being made 12:30:48 +Shadi 12:30:53 +??P9 12:31:12 zakim, ??p8 CarlosV 12:31:12 I don't understand '??p8 CarlosV', shadi 12:31:18 zakim, ??p8 is CarlosV 12:31:18 +CarlosV; got it 12:31:26 zakim, ??p9 is Philip 12:31:27 +Philip; got it 12:32:29 carlos has joined #er 12:34:25 +Carlos_Iglesias 12:35:57 scribe: CarlosI 12:36:06 scribenick: carlos 12:36:21 zakim, take up agendum 1 12:36:21 agendum 1. "Welcome" taken up [from shadi] 12:37:10 zakim, mute me 12:37:10 CarlosV should now be muted 12:38:19 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/timeline#publications 12:38:39 SAZ: reviewing the state of documents in the REC track 12:38:59 zakim, take up next 12:38:59 agendum 2. "EARL 1.0 Last Call comments" taken up [from shadi] 12:39:22 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011May/ 12:39:52 SAZ: dedicated mailing list for EARL documents comments 12:40:25 SAZ: lots of comments from Sean 12:40:48 SAZ: some quite dense 12:40:56 SAZ: several relate to each other 12:41:17 SAZ: some look worse than they really are 12:41:56 SAZ: please have a look at them 12:42:24 SAZ: and use this opportunity to review also each other's work 12:42:45 SAZ: check you all are on the comments mailing list 12:42:55 SAZ: if not please subscribe yourself 12:43:00 + +1.858.151.aaaa 12:43:31 zakim, aaaa is Emanuelle 12:43:31 +Emanuelle; got it 12:43:53 zakim, take up next 12:43:53 agendum 3. "WAI evaluation and testing activities" taken up [from shadi] 12:44:24 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/ 12:45:02 SAZ: new page describing testing and evaluation activities along several groups 12:45:26 sinarmaya has joined #er 12:46:34 SAZ: there is founding for testing infrastructure 12:47:02 SAZ: HTML5 need testing stuff 12:47:38 SAZ: instead creating just new testing specific infrastructure for them 12:48:00 SAZ: new project to develope common testing infrastructure at W3C 12:48:28 SAZ: input from different WGs for that work 12:49:03 SAZ: will make sure that at least the system address WAI guidelines needs 12:49:16 http://www.w3.org/wiki/Testing/ 12:49:31 http://www.w3.org/wiki/Testing/Requirements 12:49:42 SAZ: wiki home for the W3C testing effort 12:50:22 SAZ: now going from requirements to implementation 12:50:28 http://www.w3.org/2011/05/testing-ig-charter.html 12:50:57 SAZ: current draft charter for activity 12:52:19 SAZ: some test will be automatic (e.g. for HTML5) 12:52:41 SAZ: other will need manual intervention (e.g. WCAG) 12:53:40 SAZ: work on TSDTF originated from BenToWeb project 12:54:14 SAZ: workflow for test review was developed 12:54:42 SAZ: didn't have resources and infrastructure to get the test development finalised 12:54:56 zakim, unmute me 12:54:56 CarlosV should no longer be muted 12:55:24 SAZ: the new infrastructures will be a good opportunity to revive that work 12:55:30 zakim, mute me 12:55:30 CarlosV should now be muted 12:56:14 SAZ: ATAG and UAAG will also create tests 12:56:23 SAZ: ATAG in a more mature stage 12:57:14 SAZ: WAI-ARIA currently in CR 12:57:27 SAZ: really active group 12:57:35 SAZ: will also work on tests 12:58:12 SAZ: Accessibility Support Database 12:58:24 SAZ: use the core test samples developed 12:59:03 SAZ: run them through different tools and user agents 12:59:27 SAZ: to look for their accessibility support 12:59:59 SAZ: how well assistive technology implement the sufficient techniques 13:00:20 SAZ: WCAG 2.0 evaluation methodologie 13:00:34 SAZ: WCAG 2.0 is a bit different 13:00:47 SAZ: not just about test samples 13:01:08 SAZ: it needs a whole methodologie for the testing process 13:01:38 SAZ: supporting evaluation resources 13:02:06 SAZ: also need more educational resources for testing and evaluation 13:02:54 SAZ: will be mainly through the EOWG 13:03:23 zakim, take up next 13:03:23 agendum 4. "WCAG 2.0 Evaluation Methodology Task Force (Eval TF)" taken up [from shadi] 13:03:27 :-) 13:03:33 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/eval-tf 13:04:32 SAZ: good opportunity to harmonize along Europe 13:04:52 SAZ: but W3C would also like to harmonize globally 13:05:57 SAZ: draft timeline to try to get it as quicker as possible 13:06:12 SAZ: new participants are welcome 13:06:52 SAZ: please have a look at the work statement to approve or comment it 13:07:19 SAZ: new subgroup to work on this particular issue 13:07:22 no 13:08:28 SAZ: would probably be an intense WG due to the timeline and efforts 13:09:03 SAZ: will also have opportunities to comment on drafts if you can't participate 13:09:19 zakim, unmute me 13:09:20 CarlosV should no longer be muted 13:11:30 CV: many things happening on testing in different places 13:11:45 CV: how much communication? 13:13:01 SAZ: may expect also external participation or input from other testing communities 13:14:15 SAZ: don't think this work is the place for developing something like the test description language 13:14:38 zakim, mute me 13:14:38 CarlosV should now be muted 13:15:04 EGR: very excited with the new activity 13:16:06 zakim, take up next 13:16:08 SAZ: please have a deep look at it and will be back to you in a week or two 13:16:09 agendum 5. "Upcoming meeting schedule" taken up [from shadi] 13:16:28 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/timeline#meeting 13:17:10 SAZ: next meeting 1st June 13:17:29 -Philip 13:17:31 -Emanuelle 13:17:32 -Carlos_Iglesias 13:17:32 -Shadi 13:17:41 philip_ has left #er 13:17:43 trackbot, end meeting 13:17:43 Zakim, list attendees 13:17:43 As of this point the attendees have been Shadi, CarlosV, Philip, Carlos_Iglesias, +1.858.151.aaaa, Emanuelle 13:17:44 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 13:17:44 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-er-minutes.html trackbot 13:17:45 RRSAgent, bye 13:17:45 I see no action items