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14:58:56 <YvesS> Meeting: ITS Interest group
14:59:02 <YvesS> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2011May/0005.html
14:59:11 <YvesS> Chair: YvesS
14:59:18 <YvesS> Scribe: YvesS
14:59:43 <YvesS> rrsagent, make logs public
15:00:27 <Zakim> I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM has now started
15:00:29 <Zakim> + +1.303.945.aaaa
15:00:35 <Zakim> +??P8
15:00:35 <Zakim> -??P8
15:00:37 <Zakim> +??P8
15:01:11 <YvesS> zakim, +1.303 is YvesS
15:01:11 <Zakim> +YvesS; got it
15:04:14 <fsasaki> topic: ITS oriented review
15:04:27 <fsasaki> yves: some activity - martin is looking at MIME type issue
15:04:56 <fsasaki> felix: good to have martin's eye on this, he is very engaged in IETF
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15:05:32 <chriLi> Hi Yves - neither the US nor the France number work for me ... :-(
15:07:50 <Zakim> +Stefan_Schnabel
15:07:51 <Zakim> -Felix
15:08:49 <Zakim> +??P8
15:09:49 <fsasaki> topic: translate attribute in HTML5
15:09:59 <fsasaki> no new infos on this
15:10:13 <fsasaki> topic: other formats to target
15:10:34 <fsasaki> christian: about DITA
15:10:45 <fsasaki> .. specialization thing is one main feature of DITA
15:11:00 <fsasaki> .. allows you to derive your own DITA flavor
15:11:18 <fsasaki> .. you can compare it to XML - it allows you to create your own "formalism"
15:11:36 <fsasaki> .. in translation tools, pre-defined configuration things are delivered for DITA
15:11:49 <fsasaki> .. situation is that this covers only plain vanilla DITA
15:12:17 <fsasaki> .. one idea is that if one could create ITS rules that could mimic the specializations with DITA
15:15:00 <fsasaki> yves: what would the technical part be - how would you derive specialized ITS rules?
15:15:40 <fsasaki> christian: not sure yet
15:17:09 <fsasaki> felix: probably an XSLT adaptation task, to make sure that ITS information is kept during the transformation 
15:17:49 <fsasaki> christian: next step - will write this up and send a mail to the list 
15:18:21 <fsasaki> topic: additional rules
15:18:25 <fsasaki> nothing new
15:18:36 <fsasaki> s/additional rules/rules repository/
15:18:41 <fsasaki> topic: ITS general issues
15:19:32 <fsasaki> Christian was to ask expert(s) about how to use RDF directly
15:19:58 <fsasaki> christian: one data category was about context - generalized locNote
15:20:09 <YvesS> Context data category: http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/IssuesAndProposedFeatures#Proposal:_.22Context.22_data_category
15:21:07 <fsasaki> christian: might tell people - if you need to provide information as the following, use rather RDFa than ITS
15:23:39 <fsasaki> action: felix to talk to RDFa WG about "context data category" mechanism
15:24:20 <fsasaki> next proposal - locale specific  content http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/IssuesAndProposedFeatures#Proposal:_localeSpecificContent
15:25:30 <fsasaki> yves: somebody would ask "why don't you use xml:lang directly"
15:26:36 <fsasaki> action: christian to update the "locale specific content" text so that it reflects the difference to xml:lang
15:26:42 <fsasaki> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6067
15:27:16 <fsasaki> This document specifies an Extension to BCP 47 that provides subtags
15:27:18 <fsasaki>    that specify language and/or locale-based behavior or refinements to
15:27:19 <fsasaki>    language tags, according to work done by the Unicode Consortium.
15:28:56 <fsasaki> felix: above is definition for "u" extension, that itself refers to locale data markup language (CLDR, Unicode consortium)
15:29:07 <fsasaki> .. might be useful to add to wiki
15:29:27 <fsasaki> yves: next - permissions for inline code
15:30:10 <fsasaki> .. currently being discussed in XLIFF, waiting for the outcome to decide who it relates to ITS
15:30:26 <fsasaki> yves: next - transliteration topic
15:31:24 <fsasaki> .. consensus is that it needs to be a different data category
15:33:43 <fsasaki> felix: good design principle not to add things to existing data categories, otherwise conformance (currently focused on local versus global ITS only) gets difficult
15:34:28 <fsasaki> action: christian to turn the discussion surrounding the "transliteration / NLP content ..." into a new item on the wiki page
15:34:43 <fsasaki> topic: aob
15:41:29 <fsasaki> yves: have an action item to write blurb about m4loc tool, will do that later 
15:48:15 <Zakim> -Stefan_Schnabel
15:48:17 <Zakim> -YvesS
15:48:21 <Zakim> -Felix
15:48:23 <Zakim> I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM has ended
15:48:25 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.303.945.aaaa, Felix, YvesS, Stefan_Schnabel
15:48:43 <fsasaki> present: Yves, Christian, Felix
15:48:48 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:48:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/24-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
15:49:36 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
15:49:37 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:49:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/24-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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