19:42:59 RRSAgent has joined #au 19:42:59 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-irc 19:43:03 Zakim, this will be AUWG 19:43:03 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 43 minutes ago 19:43:08 Meeting: WAI AU 19:43:21 Chair: Jan Richards 19:43:28 Regrets: Jutta T., Sarah P. 19:45:24 zakim, code? 19:45:24 the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Jan 19:45:33 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 19:45:40 +Jeanne 19:45:43 jeanne has joined #au 19:45:57 +??P1 19:47:07 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011AprJun/0040.html 19:47:16 zakim, ??P1 is really Jan 19:47:16 +Jan; got it 19:54:37 Regrets: Jutta T., Sarah P., Alessandro M. 20:00:23 +[Microsoft] 20:00:53 zakim, [Microsoft] is really Alex 20:00:53 +Alex; got it 20:01:51 +[Microsoft] 20:02:01 zakim, [Microsoft] is really Cherie 20:02:01 +Cherie; got it 20:06:54 scribe: jeanne 20:07:18 Topic: 1. Disseminating the public drafts 20:07:45 JR: I encourage people to keep disseminating public drafts in their organizaitons. 20:07:49 JR: Just a reminder to disseminate the public WDs. 20:07:55 Topic: 2. The survey for reviewing the AA comments: 20:08:06 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110503/results 20:08:20 Topic: A.3.1 - MS39 20:11:40 JR: We wanted efficiency of keyboard navigation 20:12:00 AL: we either need to make it more precise or more vague. 20:12:36 ... we narrowed it down to keyboard navigation - more shortcuts are used to execute something, not navigation. 20:12:41 + +1.703.678.aaaa 20:13:17 ... it is not usually used for jumping to navigation. The SC is framed in such way that the SC is only about navigation instead of execution. 20:13:54 JR: It includes execution as well as navigation. But at what point do we draw the line? 20:14:19 Action: Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1 20:14:19 Sorry, couldn't find user - Consider 20:14:26 Action: JR Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1 20:14:26 Created ACTION-328 - Consider how to set a minimum criteria for A.3.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:14:33 The authoring tool user interface includes mechanisms to make keyboard access more efficient than sequential keyboard use. 20:14:44 Topic: A.3.1 - MS40 20:14:53 The previous proposal was from Jeanne 20:15:08 +Tim_Boland 20:15:42 JR: Emphasis is for keyboard access and execution, not just keyboard navigation. 20:15:49 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110503/results 20:17:22 Topic: A.3.1 - IBM24 20:17:57 JS: Reusing the same answer doesn't work, because of the mobile use case. 20:18:24 JR: We need to spend more time saying what this would look like in a mobile device' 20:18:34 Action: JR to update answer to IBM24 to better address mobile 20:18:34 Created ACTION-329 - Update answer to IBM24 to better address mobile [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:18:53 Topic: A.3.5 - WCAGWG24 20:19:27 Resolution: Accept wording for A.3.5 - WCAGWG24 20:19:46 Topic: A.3.5 - MS41 20:20:55 AL: This is for web content, therefore it is a UAAG requirement. 20:23:26 JS: Since this is for the editing view, it needs to be built into the software. 20:24:16 AL: The problem with ATAG is saying where does the authoring function stop? This goes too far into other areas that are not authoring. 20:25:47 [JR gives examples of javascript search vs. using the browser search function.] 20:27:50 AL: if the tool is web based, the browser covers it. If it is desktop output, and it uses their own emulator, then the emulator provides this search. If the tool provides its own rendering engine, then say that. This doesn't say editing view search. 20:29:50 JR: propose - "web content being edited". That is a defined term which is clear about that. 20:31:17 AL: When it is a web based authoring tool, then the browser function would be used. 20:31:39 JR: It's more like it uses the built-in structure of the browser. 20:32:00 Action: JRin A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be more clear that this refers to editing views 20:32:00 Sorry, couldn't find user - JRin 20:32:05 Action: JR in A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be more clear that this refers to editing views 20:32:05 Created ACTION-330 - In A.3.5.1, use "web content being edited" to be more clear that this refers to editing views [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:34:13 CE: There is text from UAAG. 20:34:37 JR: What about focus is moved to the match? 20:34:41 JR: I am wary of using "viewport". After years of discussion UAWG still discusses it. What about focus is moved to the match. 20:35:01 AL: viewport is used in WCAG. 20:35:33 CE: The match is made visible and the focus is moved to that match 20:35:33 Cherie: But might not be visible 20:35:52 Cherie: Focus is moved and the match is made visible to the author 20:36:04 +1 20:36:22 Action: JR work in "Focus is moved and the match is made visible to the author" to A.3.5.1 20:36:22 Created ACTION-331 - Work in "Focus is moved and the match is made visible to the author" to A.3.5.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:37:48 Action: JR to update the response for OC7 to take into acount Alex's comment 20:37:48 Created ACTION-332 - Update the response for OC7 to take into acount Alex's comment [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:38:18 Topic: A.3.5 - IBM30 20:39:11 Resolution: All accept JR's change to IBM30 20:39:18 Topic: A.3.5 - IBM31 20:39:47 Alex: This is taken care of by change above 20:40:01 Topic: A.3.6 - UAAG5 20:40:16 Resolution: Update numbewring. 20:40:36 -Jan 20:42:16 Topic: A.3.6 - MS42 20:42:45 Add "If the authoring tool has its own display and control settings, then the authoring tools... 20:43:27 action: JR to update A.3.6 to add the condition "If the authoring tool has its own display and control settings, then the authoring tools... 20:43:27 Created ACTION-333 - Update A.3.6 to add the condition "If the authoring tool has its own display and control settings, then the authoring tools... [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:44:09 Topic: A.3.6 - MS44 20:45:19 The authoring tool applies platform display settings and control settings. 20:46:16 AL: it's a little clunky. It means, when you change the screen resolution and contrast in the OS, then the app changes appropriately. 20:47:22 CE: Respecting changes in display and control settings of the underlying platform chosen by the user. 20:47:36 Greg: Defer to the user settings 20:48:26 CR: The authoring tools respects platform display settings and control settings chosen by the user. 20:48:42 s/CR:/CE: 20:49:19 AL: I don't have a better suggestion - I still think "respect" is unclear. 20:49:36 - +1.703.678.aaaa 20:50:05 CE: Since respect is defined, it will be ok. 20:50:25 AL: Respecting changes in platform display and control settings chosen by the user. 20:50:56 The authoring tool respects changes in platform display and control settings chosen by the user. 20:51:42 -Tim_Boland 20:52:43 action: JR to update A.3.6.3 to read " The authoring tool respects changes in platform display and control settings chosen by the user." 20:52:43 Created ACTION-334 - Update A.3.6.3 to read " The authoring tool respects changes in platform display and control settings chosen by the user." [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:53:21 topic: A.3.6 - IBM32 20:53:41 AL: My comment is already addressed. 20:54:54 action: JR to fix typo in A.4.1 - GL17 udo -> undo 20:54:55 Created ACTION-335 - Fix typo in A.4.1 - GL17 udo -> undo [on Jan Richards - due 2011-05-16]. 20:55:41 Topic: A.4.1 - GL36 20:56:38 CE: Does anyone have the wording? 20:56:41 "Authors can sequentially reverse a series of reversible authoring actions. " 20:57:08 No objections. 20:58:39 -Alex 20:58:40 -Cherie 20:58:45 rrsagent, make minutes 20:58:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html jeanne 20:58:53 -Jeanne 20:58:54 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended 20:58:56 Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, Alex, Cherie, +1.703.678.aaaa, Tim_Boland 20:59:12 zakim, aaaa is really Greg 20:59:12 sorry, jeanne, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' 21:00:39 rrsagent, make logs public 21:01:54 rrsagent, make minutes 21:01:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/09-au-minutes.html jeanne