17:30:32 RRSAgent has joined #gallery 17:30:32 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/04/22-gallery-irc 17:30:32 ok, judy, I see WAI_(GALLERY)1:30PM already started 17:30:32 scribe: Jeanne 17:30:36 +jeanne 17:31:55 +Judy 17:32:02 zakim, who's here? 17:32:02 On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, jeanne, Judy 17:32:03 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, jeanne, judy 17:33:31 +Debby 17:34:33 Andi has joined #gallery 17:35:04 agenda+ licensing language, "how to enter" rules, draft announcement 17:35:04 agenda+ specifics on longer term gallery, confirming searchable categories/indexable info, pre-planning for persistence & deadwood 17:35:51 zakim, take up item 1 17:35:51 agendum 1. "licensing language, "how to enter" rules, draft announcement" taken up [from judy] 17:37:05 Judy fills Andi in on highlights of last week's meeting on licensing. 17:38:30 JB: There were 1 or 2 FCC challenges that had legal terms that Jamal thought we could copy. Debby, you were going to take that set and see if there was legal language that CIO Council used that we could reuse. 17:39:18 Debby: Our legal language is also dense. I think when Federal lawyers are involved, you get a lot of rules. 17:40:17 JB: The Open Source stipulation doesn't necessarily match our goals. We could use the ones we want, and attach a note explaining we wanted to use have public be able to reuse the templates and widgets. 17:41:22 ... if a template is for a proprietary CMS, requiring open source would be a barrier. 17:43:07 +Debby.a 17:43:08 Debby: Frank (??) really wants it to be open source, but requiring open source may be a barrier. 17:43:25 zakim, Debby.a is really Jamal 17:43:25 +Jamal; got it 17:44:55 JB: We may want the open source status to be a field that people can search on in the gallery, as that may be an attraction. 17:45:49 JB: And Debby and Jamal, when you follow up with your internal, you may want to say that we do not want to require open source, but will be transparent in the license type. 17:46:28 Jamal: I am worried that this may tie up the process, as certain language is already approved. It is an unknown, so I think we should try it. 17:49:11 Debby: I don't think the attorneys are pushing open source. I think that is just the way that Frank wanted to set up. I haven't presented this to him, I have been waiting for it to be more final. I think that frank and Craig will think that is fine. 17:49:53 JB: Even though CIO may be a host, I think that FCC should be administrative/primary host. 17:51:06 Andi: Anything we submit will be our open source dojo work. 17:54:35 zakim, close this item 17:54:35 agendum 1 closed 17:54:36 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 17:54:38 2. specifics on longer term gallery, confirming searchable categories/indexable info, pre-planning for persistence & deadwood [from judy] 17:54:42 zakim, take up next item 17:54:42 agendum 2. "specifics on longer term gallery, confirming searchable categories/indexable info, pre-planning for persistence & deadwood" taken up [from judy] 17:55:38 JB: I want to think up specific questions that will help the long-term gallery take shape. IF you think of the eventual gallery and how would you want to search for different types of widgets and templates. 17:56:15 ... license status would be one, platform, tool, ?? 17:57:14 judy: what do we want to search for: open source? additional license detail? type of component? platform? associated application? 17:57:19 ... type of component, application associated 17:57:24 Andi: WIdget name 17:57:36 recency 17:57:43 JB: Recent - date added to gallery 17:57:58 Andi: Subscribe to it 17:58:16 jeanne: Narrow it down and browse thumbnails of it. 17:59:43 JB: What would be a welcoming flag for the "nervous novice"? 17:59:50 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 18:01:13 jeanne: Thinking of the Staples big red button: Easy 18:01:28 +John 18:02:45 DEbby: It is very helpful for people who are starting out - show them videos on people using assistive technology. 18:03:30 John: As long as the videos are captioned. 18:04:40 Jeanne: need a flag called "experience required" and specifying level 18:04:55 Debby: We need to address the needs of people who don't know about accessibility. 18:05:29 Judy: We need a intro section where we point people to resources - some of them could be WAI resources, because we have a number of them for introduction. 18:06:01 [tell us the experience level, and write an ____ explanation of how it is used] 18:06:09 ... the more complex applications could have a link "explanation available" that would come from the application that could give more instructions on using it. 18:07:24 ... beginner, intermediate and advanced. 18:07:50 John: The more we put out in "easy English" and videos, the less maintenance of explainign that we will have to do. 18:07:56 [explanatory text should include whether there's a video] 18:08:33 Jamal: Yahoo has an accessibility lab where they have videos of people using Assistive Technology. 18:09:46 Jamal: I see no harm in asking people who submit widgets to submit an optional video showing how to use it. 18:10:35 [include video mentions in several places, including as suggestion for submitters] 18:11:08 zakim, close this item 18:11:08 agendum 2 closed 18:11:09 I see nothing remaining on the agenda 18:11:16 zakim, take up item 2 18:11:16 agendum 2. "specifics on longer term gallery, confirming searchable categories/indexable info, pre-planning for persistence & deadwood" taken up [from judy] 18:11:36 topic: Pre-planning for persistence and deadwood. 18:12:47 JB: Timing and availability - asking for a 3 year minimum. Maybe a pick list 3, 5, eternity, to provide persistence 18:13:02 John: Ask for a copy so we can put it back up if it disappears. 18:13:40 John: Reminding people once a year by email to ask if it is still up-to-date. 18:13:53 JB: Maybe persistent contact information 18:13:58 [maybe we need "persistent contact info" not just persistent link] 18:14:35 ack ju 18:14:57 John: I'll start making the other versions of the templates if I don't hear from anyone. 18:16:02 -Debby 18:16:03 -John 18:16:05 -Jamal 18:16:06 Next meeting: Jamal, jeanne, John, all good for next week. 18:16:10 -Judy 18:16:15 -jeanne 18:16:16 WAI_(GALLERY)1:30PM has ended 18:16:18 Attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, jeanne, Judy, Debby, Jamal, John 18:16:26 rrsagent, make logs public 18:16:32 rrsagent, make minutes 18:16:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/22-gallery-minutes.html jeanne 18:17:25 meeting: Grab an Go Gallery 18:17:33 rrsagent, make minutes 18:17:33 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/22-gallery-minutes.html jeanne 18:17:42 chair: Judy 18:17:52 regrets+ Cynthia, Peter 18:18:01 rrsagent, make minutes' 18:18:01 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes'', jeanne. Try /msg RRSAgent help 18:18:10 rrsagent, make minutes 18:18:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/22-gallery-minutes.html jeanne 18:54:25 zakim, bye 18:54:25 Zakim has left #gallery 18:54:30 rrsagent, bye 18:54:30 I see no action items