15:50:18 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #webid
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15:50:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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15:50:22 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WEBID
15:50:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see INC_WEBID(WEBID)12:00PM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
15:50:23 <trackbot> Meeting: WebID Incubator Group Teleconference
15:50:23 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2011
15:51:23 <bblfish> zakim, agenda?
15:51:23 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
15:53:29 <Deiu> hey
15:53:59 <bblfish> hi
15:54:11 <bblfish> agenda+ Accept minutes from previous meeting
15:54:37 <bblfish> agenda+ Introducing new people
15:54:39 <domel> domel has joined #webid
15:54:44 <Zakim> INC_WEBID(WEBID)12:00PM has now started
15:54:51 <Zakim> +??P10
15:55:26 <Deiu> Zakim, who am I?
15:55:26 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Deiu.
15:55:32 <bblfish> agenda+ Action Item Review http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/open
15:56:04 <Deiu> who's here?
15:56:13 <Deiu> Zakim, who's here?
15:56:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P10
15:56:37 <Deiu> Zakim, I'm ??P10
15:56:37 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I'm ??P10', Deiu
15:56:49 <bblfish> agenda+ ISSUE-9: Develop WebID Test Suite http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/issues/9
15:56:59 <Deiu> Zakim, Deiu is ??P10
15:56:59 <Zakim> sorry, Deiu, I do not recognize a party named 'Deiu'
15:57:07 <Deiu> Zakim, I am ??P10
15:57:07 <Zakim> +Deiu; got it
15:57:10 <bblfish> agenda+ ACTION-23: Start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/
15:57:12 <Zakim> +??P12
15:57:46 <domel> Zakim, I am ??P12
15:57:46 <Zakim> +domel; got it
15:58:02 <Deiu> bblfish, can we also discuss the authentication process please?
15:58:18 <bblfish> ok
15:58:25 <Deiu> if we have time
15:58:43 <bblfish> zakim, what is on the agenda?
15:58:43 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
15:58:45 <Zakim> 1. Accept minutes from previous meeting [from bblfish]
15:58:48 <Zakim> 2. Introducing new people [from bblfish]
15:58:49 <Zakim> 3. Action Item Review http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/open [from bblfish]
15:58:51 <Zakim> 4. ISSUE-9: Develop WebID Test Suite http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/issues/9 [from bblfish]
15:58:54 <Zakim> 5. ACTION-23: Start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ [from bblfish]
15:59:10 <domel> Zakim, who's here?
15:59:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deiu, domel
16:00:10 <bblfish> agenda 5 = "authentication process - Deiu"
16:00:16 <bblfish> agenda+ ACTION-23: Start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/
16:02:15 <jeffsayre> jeffsayre has joined #webid
16:03:20 <Zakim> +??P18
16:03:40 <bblfish> zakim, ??P18 is bblfish
16:03:40 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
16:03:46 <jeffsayre> Hum? Zakim's hanging up on me...
16:04:21 <bblfish> I am in using sip
16:04:24 <Zakim> + +1.574.277.aaaa
16:06:14 <bblfish> zakim, who is here?
16:06:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see Deiu, domel, bblfish, +1.574.277.aaaa
16:06:19 <jeffsayre> Zakim, I am +1.574.277.aaaa
16:06:19 <Zakim> +jeffsayre; got it
16:07:27 <bblfish> zakim, bblfish is chair
16:07:27 <Zakim> +chair; got it
16:07:34 <bblfish> zakim, pick a scribe
16:07:34 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose domel
16:08:10 <bblfish> domel?
16:08:18 <bblfish> bergi?
16:11:03 <Deiu> Zakim, scribe Deiu
16:11:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'scribe Deiu', Deiu
16:11:11 <bblfish> zakim, Deiu is victim
16:11:11 <Zakim> +victim; got it
16:11:35 <bblfish> next agendum
16:11:59 <jeffsayre> http://www.w3.org/2011/04/11-webid-minutes.html
16:12:24 <bblfish> +1
16:12:31 <jeffsayre> =!
16:12:33 <domel> +1
16:12:35 <Deiu> +1
16:12:37 <jeffsayre> +1
16:12:59 <bblfish> RESOLVED: Minutes approved
16:13:03 <bblfish> next agendum
16:13:21 <bblfish> Zakim, who is here?
16:13:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see victim, domel, chair, jeffsayre
16:13:50 <bblfish> next agendum
16:14:00 <bblfish> skip agendum
16:14:23 <bblfish> close this agendum
16:15:17 <domel> +1
16:15:19 <bblfish> CLOSE ACTION-22
16:15:19 <trackbot> ACTION-22 Have biweelkly unformal meeting closed
16:16:24 <bblfish> close ACTION-9
16:16:24 <trackbot> ACTION-9 Explore test case options closed
16:16:59 <bblfish> close ACTION-23
16:16:59 <trackbot> ACTION-23 Start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ closed
16:17:23 <bblfish> next agendum
16:17:31 <bblfish> close this agendum
16:17:42 <bblfish> bergi
16:19:58 <bblfish> Proposal: to OPEN ISSUE-9
16:20:02 <bblfish> +1
16:20:06 <Deiu> +1
16:20:37 <domel> +1
16:21:01 <bblfish> This is part of WebId charter in order to establish "An interoperability report on existing WebID implementations."
16:22:28 <bblfish> RESOLVED: ISSUE-9 Open
16:24:09 <bblfish> I wrote out a lenghty review here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-webid/2011Apr/0246.html
16:24:25 <bblfish> in thread "EARL based WebID tests: a first example"
16:34:05 <bblfish> Zakim, who is here?
16:34:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see victim, domel, chair, jeffsayre
16:41:16 <bblfish> close this agendum
16:41:28 <bblfish> next agendum
16:41:35 <bblfish> close this agendum
16:42:38 <bblfish> this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-webid/2011Apr/0153.html
16:44:47 <Deiu> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/#authentication-sequence-details
16:46:26 <bblfish> http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/02/23/index-respec.html
16:47:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:48:10 <webr3> Zakim, i am IPcaller
16:48:10 <Zakim> ok, webr3, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
16:49:01 <bblfish> ah no problem
16:50:18 <webr3> action-25?
16:50:18 <trackbot> ACTION-25 -- Nathan Rixham to find out about logging on w3 irc servers and organize something -- due 2011-04-11 -- OPEN
16:50:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/25
16:50:28 <webr3> ^^ We can use RRSAgent (but it times out after X amount of inactivity) or we also have permission to use our own logging bots
16:50:36 <webr3> close action-25
16:50:37 <trackbot> ACTION-25 Find out about logging on w3 irc servers and organize something closed
16:53:13 <bblfish> close this agendum
16:53:15 <bblfish> close this agendum
16:53:20 <bblfish> next agendum
16:53:32 <bblfish> close this agendum
16:56:22 <bblfish> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-webid/2011Apr/0246.html
16:58:44 <jeffsayre> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/17
16:59:09 <jeffsayre> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/User_Stories_and_Use_Cases
16:59:51 <webr3> jeff: looks good thus far! :)
17:05:01 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/wiki/PrivacyAwareWeb
17:06:56 <webr3> yes it needs to work w/ existing services and silos too
17:08:03 <webr3> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/federatedsocialweb/wiki/SWAT1_use_cases
17:09:02 <bblfish> https://docs.google.com/a/bblfish.net/document/d/1L-PhczWNSciUIRCfsK92wRbxJEU1kKSwUcxFSz3DAu0/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJv5nPIJ&pli=1#
17:09:06 <domel> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-PhczWNSciUIRCfsK92wRbxJEU1kKSwUcxFSz3DAu0/edit?authkey=CJv5nPIJ&hl=pl#
17:10:30 <webr3> bblfish, harry has edited your usecases on swat1 and they're now under "Social discovery" (the last 2 int hat section)
17:10:39 <bblfish> thanks 
17:12:42 <webr3> I have to shoot quickly sorry, but I'll read the doc later tonight and start contributing - cheers all
17:13:03 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
17:13:13 <jeffsayre>  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-PhczWNSciUIRCfsK92wRbxJEU1kKSwUcxFSz3DAu0/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJv5nPIJ
17:13:22 <bblfish> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20054342-281.html?tag=topStories1
17:13:30 <bblfish> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20054342-281.html
17:37:11 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Foaf+ssl/FAQ
17:53:33 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Foaf+ssl/FAQ#OpenID_failed.2C_do_people_really_want_distributed_identity.3F
17:54:29 <Zakim> -domel
17:59:18 <Deiu> I'm muting myself from here on (lots of noise from outside)
18:03:43 <Deiu> brb
18:05:08 <Zakim> -chair
18:05:09 <Zakim> -jeffsayre
18:05:34 <bblfish> trackbot, end meeting
18:05:34 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
18:05:34 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been domel, +1.574.277.aaaa, jeffsayre, chair, victim, [IPcaller]
18:05:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:05:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/18-webid-minutes.html trackbot
18:05:36 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
18:05:36 <RRSAgent> I see no action items