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<mischat> hello all
<mischat> zakim code
<cygri> tomayac, can you hear us?
<Steven> tomayac, can you hear us?
<mischat> FWIW http://steveharris.tumblr.com/post/4590579712/construct-json
<mischat> what steve and I talked about last night
cygri: Summarising yesterday, linked-data-api and talk about the cut down BBC json
<tomayac> is there a link to the bbc json story? thanks.
Guus: asked if there is a document describing the work
<cygri> Linked Data API: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/
<mischat> the link from yesterday ^^ bbc "cut down json"
NickH: stated that BBC are hoping to write up the json work
cygri: asked if the BBC work is a generic rdf -> json ?
<NickH> RDF/XML: https://gist.github.com/919228
NickH: Stated that the work was designed to handle generic rdf
<tomayac> memorizing the NYT json again: http://data.nytimes.com//60694995023816375851.json
<NickH> JSON: https://gist.github.com/919230
<NickH> not sure if this is an ideal example
tomayac: Do say if you would like go talk about the nytimes json
<NickH> not, it isn't
<NickH> Will get some proper examples on to the mailing list
<NickH> with some code snippets
<tomayac> mischat_: simply mentally counter-posed it to bbc's json
So we have three 3 use-cases :
1st use case, which json-ld was presented as a potential starting point
The use case is that you want to give developers the choice to parse the data as json or with the rdf stack
<NickH> tomayac: is there a spec for the format of the nytimes json?
<tomayac> NickH: not one that i'm aware of. it's easy enough to derive it by "reverse-engineering" (blown-up word) the sample code
cygri: To be fair to manu et al and json-ld Has been presented to cover more than just the 1st use case
<tomayac> _about is the subject
<tomayac> on the same level as predicates
tomayac: Talked to Evan sandhaus from The nytimes... some points about the json
It has a comment in it, which they had to do for licensing purposes, if you pass a callback function it will strip out the comment
All of the slash escaping was
<scribe> Done so that the json could be put in <script/> .
<tomayac> mischat_: small correction: if a string contains </script> ("blabla </script> blalala") this opens the doors for XSS attacks, so they forward all forward slashes
<tomayac> escape, not forward
Nick asked about rdfa profiles and how
They relate to the json work
<NickH> mapping that is used to generate both the RDF and JSON:
<tomayac> sparql results json seems adequate for results that are well-represented as a table (many rows, similar structure each time), but not so well for just one, deeply nested result
Sure tomayac I agree, was just playing devils advocate
<tomayac> got it, mischat_
We need to capture the inputs on the wiki, we have 3 inputs it seems for the use-case 3
These are 1 linked data api, 2 BBC json, and 3 nytimes json
<tomayac> they threw away a lot...
<tomayac> (not necessarily bad)
<tomayac> no dot notation
<tomayac> need to obj['cu:rie']
<tomayac> cant do obj.cur:ie
Guus_: Is talking about the recipes and how useful a note would be to start the conversation
<tomayac> manu and nathan are for sure in
<tomayac> (so am i, but need the email for concrete todos [hard to follow on the phone only])
<tomayac> (plus missed all the discussions from y'day)
Again I don't do work which other people would like to do
<tomayac> (so documented stuff helps a lot)
Will get some text up over the weekend
Anyways ... We are grabbing lunch now
<tomayac> thanks, mischat_! highly appreciated
<tomayac> bon appétit!
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