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16:00:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:00:48 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:00:49 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:00:49 <trackbot> Date: 14 April 2011
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16:01:30 <Zakim> +Sam
16:01:41 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011AprJun/0002.html
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16:01:47 <jre> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:01:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.251.280.aaaa, Sam
16:01:51 <krisk> krisk has joined #html-wg
16:01:56 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:01:57 <rubys> scribenick: rubys
16:01:59 <jre> Zakim, +1.251.280.aaaa is me
16:02:00 <Zakim> +jre; got it
16:02:04 <paulc> paulc is on Zakim but CANNOT join by phone
16:02:13 <rubys> chair: Maciej Stachowiak
16:02:17 <Zakim> +Plh
16:02:18 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] has adrianba, krisk
16:02:18 <Zakim> +adrianba, krisk; got it
16:02:40 <Julian> Zakim, +1.251.280.aaaa is me
16:02:42 <Zakim> sorry, Julian, I do not recognize a party named '+1.251.280.aaaa'
16:02:43 <Zakim> +[Apple]
16:02:47 <hober> Zakim, [Apple] has me
16:02:47 <Zakim> +hober; got it
16:02:49 <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:02:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see jre, Sam, [Microsoft], Plh, [Apple]
16:02:51 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has adrianba, krisk
16:02:52 <Zakim> [Apple] has hober
16:02:58 <Julian> Zakim, jre is me
16:02:58 <Zakim> +Julian; got it
16:04:41 <MikeSmith> Zakim, code?
16:04:41 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), MikeSmith
16:05:08 <Zakim> +??P6
16:05:15 <MikeSmith> Zakim, ??P6 is me
16:05:15 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
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16:06:03 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
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16:07:06 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:07:08 <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a is me
16:07:09 <Zakim> +eliot; got it
16:07:14 <Zakim> +Rich
16:07:52 <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
16:08:21 <rubys> If Maciej doesn't show up by 10 after, I'll chair and ask Mike Smith to scribe...
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16:09:55 <Zakim> +??P19
16:10:04 <janina> zakim, ??P19 is janina
16:10:04 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:10:26 <MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith 
16:10:40 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011AprJun/0002.html
16:11:10 <MikeSmith> Topic:  ACTION items due by Thursday, April 14
16:11:15 <MikeSmith> plh: one of is mine
16:11:24 <rubys> action-193?
16:11:24 <trackbot> ACTION-193 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to and co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt -- due 2011-04-14 -- OPEN
16:11:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/193
16:11:38 <MikeSmith> plh: making progress, very likely we will discussion at the AC meeting -- at the request of the AB
16:11:45 <MikeSmith> … propose to move to May 26
16:12:04 <MikeSmith> rubys: no objections
16:12:16 <rubys> action-193 due may 26
16:12:16 <trackbot> ACTION-193 And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt due date now may 26
16:12:27 <MikeSmith> plh: we have a request from SMPTE related to this
16:12:43 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:12:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:12:50 <MikeSmith> Topic: New issues this week
16:12:57 <MikeSmith> rubys: none
16:13:04 <MikeSmith> Topic: Items closed last week
16:13:08 <MikeSmith> rubys: none
16:13:19 <MikeSmith> Topic: Items closing this week
16:13:22 <MikeSmith> rubys: none
16:13:27 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:13:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:13:33 <MikeSmith> Topic: Items closing next week
16:13:40 <MikeSmith> issue-152?
16:13:40 <trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource -- open
16:13:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/152
16:13:59 <MikeSmith> rubys: we are asking people to revise their proposals by April 22
16:14:10 <MikeSmith> … hopefully to reduce the number of proposals
16:14:37 <MikeSmith> janina: it looks like we can retract some of the proposals which were submitted by member of the Media subteam
16:15:00 <MikeSmith> … while we like Hixie's proposal overall, we have some proposed edits to it
16:15:10 <MikeSmith> rubys: converging on a single proposal?
16:15:21 <MikeSmith> janina: yes, proposal #4
16:15:29 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:15:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:15:40 <MikeSmith> Topic: New calls this week
16:15:42 <MikeSmith> rubys: none
16:15:55 <MikeSmith> Topic: New surveys this week
16:15:57 <MikeSmith> rubys: none
16:16:01 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
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16:16:10 <MikeSmith> Topic: Decisions this week
16:16:15 <MikeSmith> issue-32?
16:16:15 <trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- open
16:16:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32
16:16:19 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0091.html
16:16:31 <MikeSmith> issue-27?
16:16:31 <trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- open
16:16:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
16:16:34 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0204.html
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16:16:45 <MikeSmith> issue-144?
16:16:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-144 -- <u> should be conforming -- open
16:16:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/144
16:16:48 <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
16:16:52 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0212.html
16:17:08 <MikeSmith> issue-147?
16:17:08 <trackbot> ISSUE-147 -- playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent can't play back at the requested rate -- open
16:17:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/147
16:17:11 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0213.html
16:17:26 <MikeSmith> issue-149z/
16:17:28 <MikeSmith> issue-149?
16:17:28 <trackbot> ISSUE-149 -- Use markup compatible with both HTML/XML syntax in examples -- closed
16:17:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/149
16:17:30 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0271.html
16:17:32 <MikeSmith> oops
16:17:36 <MikeSmith> issue-129?
16:17:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open
16:17:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129
16:17:41 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0394.html
16:17:48 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0394.html
16:18:11 <MikeSmith> for the record, the decision was about issue 129 (not 149, scribe made a mistake)
16:18:18 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
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16:18:49 <MikeSmith> janina: broader concern in the a11y TF that we left people who use magnification out
16:19:01 <MikeSmith> issue-131?
16:19:01 <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
16:19:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
16:19:10 <richardschwerdtfe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0394.html
16:19:10 <MikeSmith> issue-155?
16:19:10 <trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- make <table border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"> conforming -- open
16:19:10 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/155
16:19:12 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0377.html
16:19:31 <MikeSmith> s/ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open//
16:19:43 <MikeSmith> Topic: Testing TF report
16:19:51 <MikeSmith> krisk: we met on April 5
16:19:56 <krisk> Here are the meeting notes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Apr/0009.html
16:20:13 <MikeSmith> s/ISSUE-149 -- Use markup compatible with both HTML/XML syntax in examples -- closed//
16:20:33 <MikeSmith> krisk: Ms2ger fixed a number of canvas (test) bugs
16:20:55 <MikeSmith> krisk: we are are looking for some feedback on ASCII reflection tests
16:21:26 <MikeSmith> krisk: Mozilla submitted a couple onerror tests
16:21:34 <MikeSmith> s/ASCII/attribute
16:21:43 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:21:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:21:52 <MikeSmith> krisk: we meet again on April 19
16:22:23 <MikeSmith> Topic: a11y TF
16:22:48 <MikeSmith> janina: we are having two telcons each week to discuss HTML media
16:22:57 <MikeSmith> … making good progress on issue 152
16:23:06 <MikeSmith> … some other things have popped up
16:23:16 <MikeSmith> … related to WebSRT/WebVTT
16:23:34 <MikeSmith> … which got removed from the HTML5 spec at a11y TF request
16:23:48 <MikeSmith> … but some other useful spec text got removed in the process
16:23:58 <MikeSmith> … and we would like to see that text restored
16:24:11 <MikeSmith> … Sean Hayes will be providing details on that
16:24:36 <MikeSmith> janina: about the summary attribute on the table element, there has been some consternation in the TF
16:24:51 <MikeSmith> … and we have formed a new subteam to discuss that
16:25:02 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
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16:25:17 <MikeSmith> s/for the record, the decision was about issue 129 (not 149, scribe made a mistake)//
16:25:23 <MikeSmith> Topic: Other business
16:25:39 <MikeSmith> rubys: first item is FPWD of a11y API guide
16:26:05 <MikeSmith> it's now up http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html-aapi-20110414/
16:26:35 <MikeSmith> MikeSmith: should be published and announced today
16:27:01 <MikeSmith> Topic: Request to re-open issue 120 (RDFa prefixes)
16:27:23 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0227.html
16:27:23 <MikeSmith> rubys: we have not decided to re-open it yet, but there is good discussion going on the mailing list
16:27:31 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:27:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:27:45 <MikeSmith> Topic: Proposal from Mozilla for new spec license
16:27:47 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0263.html
16:27:47 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:27:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:27:53 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:27:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:28:22 <MikeSmith> Topic: Proposed resolution for issue 129
16:28:32 <MikeSmith> s/issue-129?//
16:28:36 <MikeSmith> issue-129?
16:28:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open
16:28:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129
16:28:51 <MikeSmith> rubys: hopefully will be able to close that shortly
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16:29:23 <MikeSmith> rubys: any other business anybody would like to bring up?
16:29:32 <MikeSmith> [hearing none]
16:29:42 <MikeSmith> Topic: Scribe for next meeting?
16:30:13 <MikeSmith> [no volunteers]
16:30:16 <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
16:30:20 <Zakim> -Plh
16:30:21 <Zakim> -janina
16:30:21 <Zakim> -Rich
16:30:22 <Zakim> -[Apple]
16:30:22 <Zakim> -Sam
16:30:23 <Zakim> -eliot
16:30:23 <MikeSmith> rubys: adjourned
16:30:24 <Zakim> -Julian
16:30:26 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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16:30:30 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
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16:30:52 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:31:11 <Zakim> -MikeSmith
16:31:13 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:31:14 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Plh, adrianba, krisk, hober, Julian, MikeSmith, Cynthia_Shelly, [Microsoft], eliot, Rich, Radhika_Roy, janina
16:31:48 <MikeSmith> s/oops//
16:31:55 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:31:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:32:29 <oedipus> been happening since beginning of week -- emailed systeam about it
16:32:34 <MikeSmith> s/ISSUE-149 -- Use markup compatible with both HTML/XML syntax in examples -- closed//
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16:32:55 <oedipus> s/been happening since beginning of week -- emailed systeam about it//
16:33:03 <MikeSmith> s/ISSUE-149 -- Use markup compatible with both HTML\/XML syntax in examples -- closed//
16:33:06 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:33:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:33:58 <MikeSmith> s/ISSUE-149 -- Use markup compatible with both HTML\\/XML syntax in examples -- closed//
16:34:01 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:34:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:35:55 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, bye
16:35:55 <RRSAgent> I see no action items