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12:18:53 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3794
12:18:53 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
12:18:54 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
12:18:54 <trackbot> Date: 13 April 2011
12:19:17 <shadi> chair: Shadi
12:19:42 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2011Apr/0021.html
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12:21:08 <shadi> agenda+ Welcome
12:21:08 <shadi> agenda+ [All] fix grammar and spelling issues
12:21:08 <shadi> agenda+ [EARL Schema] clarify the target audience
12:21:08 <shadi> agenda+ [All] Conformance and new EARL 1.0 Guide
12:21:08 <shadi> agenda+ [HTTP-in-RDF] use of dct:identifier
12:21:08 <shadi> agenda+ [Content-in-RDF] Content Class
12:21:10 <shadi> agenda+ [EARL Schema] clarify the aspect of casting in example 6
12:21:12 <shadi> agenda+ Upcoming meeting schedule
12:21:35 <cstrobbe> zakim, has finito la siesta?
12:21:35 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, cstrobbe.
12:27:29 <shadi> regrets: CarlosI
12:28:01 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
12:28:08 <Zakim> +Shadi
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12:30:07 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
12:30:29 <Zakim> +??P32
12:30:52 <shadi> zakim, ? is Philip
12:30:52 <Zakim> +Philip; got it
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12:32:22 <Zakim> + +30231125aaaa
12:32:35 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is Kostas
12:32:35 <Zakim> +Kostas; got it
12:32:57 <Zakim> +??P35
12:33:33 <rui> zakim, ? is me
12:33:33 <Zakim> +rui; got it
12:33:59 <shadi> scribe: Rui
12:34:06 <shadi> scribenick: rui
12:34:25 <Zakim> +??P33
12:34:49 <shadi> zakim, ? is CarlosV
12:34:49 <Zakim> +CarlosV; got it
12:35:18 <shadi> zakim, take up next
12:35:18 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome" taken up [from shadi]
12:35:52 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2011Apr/0019
12:36:14 <rui> Shadi: brief discussion & recap of last week's resolutions and the week's e-mail exchanges
12:36:24 <rui> zakim, who's making noise?
12:36:35 <Zakim> rui, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Philip (5%), CarlosV (22%)
12:38:21 <carlosV> zakim, mute me
12:38:21 <Zakim> CarlosV should now be muted
12:38:26 <shadi> zakim, take up next
12:38:26 <Zakim> agendum 2. "[All] fix grammar and spelling issues" taken up [from shadi]
12:38:43 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011Apr/0004.html
12:39:28 <rui> Shadi: approving changes on grammar and spelling issues
12:40:16 <kostas> shadi did you check also my comments?
12:40:19 <rui> ER WG to glance through the documents once again 
12:40:50 <rui> ETA until the end of the week
12:41:08 <shadi> zakim, take up next
12:41:08 <Zakim> agendum 3. "[EARL Schema] clarify the target audience" taken up [from shadi]
12:41:28 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues#audience
12:41:47 <carlosV> zakim, unmute me
12:41:47 <Zakim> CarlosV should no longer be muted
12:41:47 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/EARL10/#audience
12:42:08 <shadi> "The assumed audience of this specification is developers who are implementing EARL in software or processes"
12:42:11 <rui> cstrobbe: discussion about the target audience
12:42:56 <rui> wording should be improved with regards to the target audience (developers) who are implementing EARL
12:43:46 <rui> to be further clarified on discussion on conformance issues
12:44:43 <rui> Shadi: broadening of target audience on conformance section (e.g., semantic web developers)
12:45:31 <shadi> zakim, take up next
12:45:31 <Zakim> agendum 4. "[All] Conformance and new EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from shadi]
12:46:04 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2011Apr/0020
12:46:26 <rui> Shadi: summary of discussions on conformance
12:47:30 <rui> there's consensus on moving the conformance section elsewhere, acceptance to move into EARL Guide
12:47:40 <rui> schemas will be just vocabulary definitinos
12:47:49 <rui> s/definitinos/definitions
12:48:07 <rui> EARL Guide to be renamed/refocused into EARL Guide for Developers
12:49:26 <rui> carlosV: I don't like the idea so much
12:50:08 <rui> CCPP has conformance information inside the spec
12:50:53 <rui> (further discussion ensues on vocabularies with conformance sections inside/outside schema definitions)
12:52:44 <shadi> scribe: kostas
12:54:26 <kostas> if conformance will not be changed then what would be included in conformance for consumers...??
12:55:17 <Zakim> -rui
12:55:28 <kostas> shadi:added value of semantic and syntax
12:59:31 <kostas> i cannot hear carlosV 
13:01:54 <kostas> carlosV: with foaf and doap it will not be possible to customize 100% the serialization
13:02:40 <kostas> shadi: will ask for comments
13:02:47 <carlosV> thanx, cs :-)
13:03:25 <kostas> shadi:change the EARL guide 1.0 to developer Guide for EARL 1.0, and shortening some of the introductrory part
13:03:29 <kostas> of the conformance section
13:04:20 <kostas> add conformace reports and other staff to the report
13:05:15 <rui> +1
13:05:39 <kostas> carlosV: the conformance from all sections?
13:05:46 <kostas> shadi: yes all the conformace sections
13:06:00 <carlosV> +1 with reservations
13:07:03 <kostas> RESOLUTION: 
13:07:57 <kostas> RESOLUTION: change EAR guide 1.0 to Developer Guide for EARL 1.0, shorten introductory contents, add conformance reports
13:09:05 <kostas> shadi: will be happy to provide more details for the next meeting
13:11:00 <kostas> shadi: move the conformace from all the documents and add them to the EARL guide
13:11:24 <shadi> action: shadi to provide an outline for the new "Developer Guide for EARL 1.0"
13:11:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-120 - Provide an outline for the new "Developer Guide for EARL 1.0" [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2011-04-20].
13:11:36 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:11:36 <Zakim> agendum 5. "[HTTP-in-RDF] use of dct:identifier" taken up [from shadi]
13:12:10 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/issues#StatusCodeClass
13:12:43 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-HTTP-in-RDF10-20091029/#StatusCodeClass
13:13:11 <cstrobbe> List of status codes: http://www.iana.org/assignments/http-status-codes
13:13:45 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-HTTP-in-RDF10-20091029/#statusCodeNumberProperty
13:14:25 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-HTTP-in-RDF10-20091029/#ResponseClass
13:15:40 <kostas> shadi: there is the statuscodeNumber should be included in the statuscode class?
13:16:35 <kostas> shadi: make the statuscodenumber a subproperty of dct:identifier?
13:19:09 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2010Jul/0000.html
13:20:29 <kostas> shadi: david remahl suggested that because we are using dct title we could use dct identifier
13:21:45 <kostas> in the example of david there is an error in the statuscodenumber (404) within the dct identifier (302)
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13:23:14 <cstrobbe> http://dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/elements.shtml
13:23:23 <cstrobbe> http://dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/elements.shtml#identifier
13:23:51 <kostas> shadi: another option is to use an integer
13:25:03 <kostas> shadi: maybe we could use integer instead of literal but shadi isn;t sure
13:25:19 <kostas> shadi:will send sth by email
13:25:33 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 8
13:25:33 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Upcoming meeting schedule" taken up [from shadi]
13:25:44 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/timeline#meeting
13:27:00 <kostas> shadi: within the next 3 weeks (next 3 meetings) we have to publish the documents
13:28:02 <kostas> shadi:until 4th of May we have to approve the draft
13:30:07 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
13:30:09 <Zakim> -Philip
13:30:11 <Zakim> -CarlosV
13:30:18 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
13:30:18 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
13:30:18 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe, Philip, +30231125aaaa, Kostas, rui, CarlosV
13:30:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:30:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/13-er-minutes.html trackbot
13:30:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
13:30:20 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/13-er-actions.rdf :
13:30:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to provide an outline for the new "Developer Guide for EARL 1.0" [1]
13:30:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/13-er-irc#T13-11-24
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13:30:27 <Zakim> -Shadi