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15:59:14 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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15:59:16 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WEBID
15:59:16 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see INC_WEBID(WEBID)12:00PM already started
15:59:17 <trackbot> Meeting: WebID Incubator Group Teleconference
15:59:17 <trackbot> Date: 11 April 2011
15:59:29 <gaedke> zakim, who is online
15:59:29 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is online', gaedke
16:00:06 <gaedke> zakim, who is there
16:00:06 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is there', gaedke
16:00:33 <Zakim> +jeffsayre
16:00:56 <gaedke> Zakim, who is here?
16:00:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, jeffsayre
16:01:18 <Zakim> + +33.1.60.76.aaaa
16:01:54 <Zakim> +??P13
16:02:11 <gaedke> Zakim, who is here?
16:02:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, jeffsayre, +33.1.60.76.aaaa, ??P13
16:02:14 <bblfish> bergi are you here?
16:02:21 <Deiu> sec, trying to identify 
16:02:58 <jeffsayre> jeffsayre has joined #webid
16:03:34 <Deiu> I am +33.1.60.76.aaaa
16:03:42 <Deiu> Zakim, who is here?
16:03:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, jeffsayre, +33.1.60.76.aaaa, ??P13
16:04:05 <bblfish> Zakim, Deiu is aaaa
16:04:05 <Zakim> sorry, bblfish, I do not recognize a party named 'Deiu'
16:04:34 <gaedke> Zakim, I am +??P13
16:04:34 <Zakim> sorry, gaedke, I do not see a party named '+??P13'
16:04:40 <gaedke> Zakim, I am P13
16:04:41 <Zakim> sorry, gaedke, I do not see a party named 'P13'
16:04:46 <gaedke> Zakim, who is here?
16:04:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, jeffsayre, +33.1.60.76.aaaa, ??P13
16:04:56 <gaedke> Zakim, I am ??P13
16:04:56 <Zakim> +gaedke; got it
16:05:07 <Deiu> Zakim, I am +33.1.60.76.aaaa
16:05:07 <Zakim> +Deiu; got it
16:05:07 <gaedke> Zakim, who is here?
16:05:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, jeffsayre, Deiu, gaedke
16:05:41 <bblfish> Zakim, I am ??P6
16:05:41 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
16:05:51 <bblfish> Zakim, who is making noise
16:05:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise', bblfish
16:06:34 <bblfish> here http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/Zakim-SIP
16:06:35 <gaedke> zakim, who is talking
16:06:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is talking', gaedke
16:07:17 <bblfish> everybody here?
16:07:26 <bblfish> Zakim, who is here?
16:07:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see bblfish, jeffsayre, Deiu, gaedke
16:09:27 <bblfish> who can scribe?
16:09:39 <Deiu> I have no idea how to do it
16:09:42 <laszlo> Sorry, I'll be on chat only, issues with my wlan connection..
16:10:02 <bblfish> zakim, pick scribe
16:10:02 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick scribe', bblfish
16:10:10 <bblfish> zakim, pick a scribe
16:10:10 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Deiu
16:10:18 <laszlo> :)
16:10:33 <bblfish> Zakim, I am chairing
16:10:33 <Zakim> sorry, bblfish, I do not see a party named 'chairing'
16:11:13 <gaedke> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
16:11:32 <jeffsayre> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
16:11:47 <bblfish> zakim, agenda?
16:11:47 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
16:12:59 <Deiu> chair: bblfish 
16:15:13 <bblfish> agenda +"Accept minutes of previous meeting"
16:15:24 <bblfish> what's on the agenda?
16:15:42 <bblfish> take up agenda item 1
16:15:53 <bblfish> take up agendum item 1
16:16:04 <bblfish> take up agendum  1
16:16:31 <bblfish> (this is going to get more exciting soon!)
16:16:44 <jeffsayre> http://www.w3c.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html
16:16:48 <bblfish> +1
16:17:02 <jeffsayre> +1
16:17:33 <laszlo> +1
16:17:38 <Deiu> +1
16:17:48 <bblfish> action: Accept previous meeting minutes
16:17:48 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Accept
16:18:38 <bblfish> resolution: minutes approved
16:18:52 <bblfish> resolve minutes approved
16:19:54 <gaedke> Check this one: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet
16:20:02 <gaedke> RESOLVED: ...
16:20:17 <bblfish> RESOLVED: Minutes approved
16:20:20 <gaedke> Well, I hope
16:20:43 <gaedke> trackbot, status?
16:21:11 <bblfish> chair: bblfish
16:21:20 <Deiu> chair: Henry Story
16:21:25 <bblfish> Zakim, chair: bblfish
16:21:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'chair: bblfish', bblfish
16:21:32 <bblfish> trackbot, chair: bblfish
16:21:32 <trackbot> Sorry, bblfish, I don't understand 'trackbot, chair: bblfish'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
16:21:38 <Deiu> Zakim, chair: Henry Story
16:21:38 <Zakim> I don't understand 'chair: Henry Story', Deiu
16:21:50 <gaedke> have you set the rrsagent?
16:22:19 <bblfish> trackbot, ACTION: approve last weeks minutes
16:22:19 <trackbot> Sorry, bblfish, I don't understand 'trackbot, ACTION: approve last weeks minutes'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
16:22:30 <bblfish> ACTION: approve last weeks minutes
16:22:30 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - approve
16:22:48 <bblfish> RESOLUTION: Approve last weeks minutes
16:22:54 <gaedke> I think it is "close"
16:23:01 <gaedke> close ACTION...
16:23:20 <gaedke> RESOLVED:
16:23:41 <bblfish> RESOLVED: Approve last weeks minutes
16:24:54 <jeffsayre> RESOLUTION: last week's minutes
16:25:49 <Deiu> Zakim, what agendum are we on?
16:25:49 <Zakim> agendum 1. ""Accept minutes of previous meeting"" has been taken up, Deiu
16:27:15 <bblfish> agenda+ new members introduction
16:27:23 <bblfish> agenda+ Action Item Review
16:27:41 <bblfish> agenda+ close items 
16:28:00 <bblfish> agenda+  ISSUE-9: Develop WebID Test Suite
16:28:09 <bblfish> agenda+ ACTION-23: Start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop
16:28:12 <jeffsayre> RESOLUTION: approve meeting minutes from 4/4 http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html
16:28:29 <bblfish> RESOLUTION: approve meeting minutes from 4/4 http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html
16:28:56 <bblfish> who is chair?
16:29:04 <jeffsayre> Zakim, who is chair?
16:29:04 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, jeffsayre.
16:29:13 <gaedke> chair: bblfish
16:29:20 <gaedke> zakim, chair: bblfish?
16:29:20 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, gaedke.
16:29:34 <gaedke> just trying ;-)
16:29:38 <laszlo> zakim, bbfish is chair
16:29:38 <Zakim> sorry, laszlo, I do not recognize a party named 'bbfish'
16:29:44 <laszlo> zakim, bblfish is chair
16:29:44 <Zakim> +chair; got it
16:29:46 <laszlo> :)
16:30:00 <bblfish> RESOLUTION: approve meeting minutes from 4/4 http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html
16:30:15 <bblfish> zakim, RESOLUTION: approve meeting minutes from 4/4 http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html
16:30:15 <Zakim> I don't understand you, bblfish
16:30:54 <Deiu> skip this item
16:31:11 <bblfish> take up adendum 2
16:31:24 <bblfish> show the agenda
16:31:37 <MacTed> hm.  hard to keep track of schedules when the wiki is so wrong.
16:31:38 <MacTed> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Main_Page
16:31:49 <bblfish> next adendum
16:31:52 <MacTed> every two weeks, next meeting 2011-03-07
16:31:55 <bblfish> next agendum
16:32:01 <Deiu> q+
16:33:05 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
16:33:17 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
16:33:17 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
16:33:25 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
16:33:25 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
16:35:48 <bblfish> bergi
16:36:32 <bblfish> next agendum
16:36:39 <bblfish> q+
16:36:44 <Deiu> q-
16:36:51 <bblfish> q-
16:36:58 <bblfish> next agendum
16:37:19 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/open
16:39:49 <jeffsayre> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/User_Stories_and_Use_Cases
16:40:17 <jeffsayre> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements
16:40:43 <bblfish> updated that here: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/17
16:41:11 <bblfish> updated action 17
16:41:15 <bblfish> next agendum
16:41:27 <bblfish> next agendum
16:41:38 <bblfish> next agendum
16:41:49 <bblfish> skip agendum
16:42:17 <bblfish> move to next agendum
16:42:17 <Zakim> agendum 5. "ISSUE-9: Develop WebID Test Suite" taken up [from bblfish]
16:42:32 <bblfish> this one has been very active this week
16:42:57 <bblfish> my test suite is here: https://bblfish.net:8443/test/WebId
16:43:41 <bblfish> Currently it tests all webids, it shows a x509 cert, and I am working on analysing x509, because I have that people don't build their certs correctly
16:44:46 <bblfish> bergi has put this together https://www.axolotlfarm.org/~bergi/projects/rme/webid/
16:45:47 <bblfish> my code is here currently https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/clerezza/trunk/parent/platform.security.foafssl/test/src/main/scala/org/apache/clerezza/foafssl/test/pages/CertificateDescription.scala (but check the directory)
16:46:22 <Deiu> https://auth.fcns.eu
16:46:42 <bblfish> supports the default authentication method
16:48:40 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
16:48:40 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
16:49:49 <bblfish> MacTed, is in favor of test suites
16:49:52 <bblfish> and complete
16:51:23 <bblfish> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/clerezza/trunk/parent/platform.security.foafssl/test/src/main/scala/org/apache/clerezza/foafssl/test/pages/CertificateDescription.scala/
16:51:38 <bblfish> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/clerezza/trunk/parent/platform.security.foafssl/test/src/main/scala/org/apache/clerezza/foafssl/test/pages/CertificateDescription.scala/
16:53:30 <bblfish> anyone else with webid implementations here?
16:53:31 <gaedke> Wir working on it... 
16:53:37 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
16:53:37 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
16:55:27 <bblfish> so this is progressing very nicely on irc
16:55:35 <laszlo> I'll be covering Online Identity in Dr. Martin Hepp's research group starting 1. May, we may have a demo in the coming months demonstrating webid in an e-commerce context
16:56:01 <bblfish> laszlo, do you have a test suite?
16:56:26 <bblfish> like the one we were describing?
16:56:35 <bblfish> zakim, who is online?
16:56:35 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bblfish.
16:56:36 <laszlo> not yet
16:56:54 <bblfish> ok, we should work together on this here and on the mailing list
16:56:56 <laszlo> starting 1.5. I can dedicate more time
16:56:58 <bblfish> it should be easy
16:57:05 <laszlo> sure thing
16:57:10 <bblfish> what is 1.5?
16:57:14 <laszlo> will be part of my phd
16:57:16 <jeffsayre> May 1st
16:57:18 <laszlo> 1st of Mya
16:57:20 <laszlo> May
16:57:26 <bblfish> next agendum
16:57:27 <jeffsayre> q+
16:57:32 <jeffsayre> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-PhczWNSciUIRCfsK92wRbxJEU1kKSwUcxFSz3DAu0/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJv5nPIJ
16:58:02 <bblfish> we are going to go over time
17:18:28 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
17:18:28 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
17:19:26 <Deiu> Zakim, mute me
17:19:26 <Zakim> Deiu should now be muted
17:26:25 <domel> domel has joined #webid
17:27:53 <domel> sorry i'm late. teleconf was finished?
17:28:18 <gaedke> No, we are currently working in google docs
17:28:57 <gaedke> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-PhczWNSciUIRCfsK92wRbxJEU1kKSwUcxFSz3DAu0/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJv5nPIJ
17:30:54 <Deiu> guys, I have to leave or I'm getting locked into the office :-)
17:32:07 <Deiu> Zakim, unmute me
17:32:07 <Zakim> Deiu should no longer be muted
17:36:39 <domel> domel has joined #webid
17:38:33 <domel> why I can not connect via phone?
17:39:08 <laszlo> can I dump a few bullet points in section 5?
17:39:53 <domel> are you on phones, or just use irc and google docs?
17:39:57 <Deiu> sure laszlo 
17:40:11 <gaedke> No, we are still on phone
17:40:36 <domel> strange, I hear that teleconf is restricted
17:41:10 <gaedke> may be that is, because we ran out of time?
17:41:35 <gaedke> Session ended officially on 19:00 Berlin time
17:42:30 <domel> is there any chance to participate?
17:43:23 <domel> as declared earlier I would like to participate in writing the paper
17:44:16 <bblfish> domel?
17:44:39 <bblfish> domel are you on skype?
17:44:45 <domel> yes
17:45:00 <bblfish> we can have teleconf on skype I am bblfish
17:45:18 <bblfish> trackbot, end meeting
17:45:18 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
17:45:18 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jeffsayre, +33.1.60.76.aaaa, gaedke, Deiu, chair, MacTed
17:45:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:45:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/11-webid-minutes.html trackbot
17:45:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
17:45:20 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/11-webid-actions.rdf :
17:45:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Accept previous meeting minutes [1]
17:45:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/11-webid-irc#T16-17-48
17:45:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: approve last weeks minutes [2]
17:45:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/11-webid-irc#T16-22-30
17:45:25 <jeffsayre> I am jeffsayre on Skype