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13:19:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
13:19:48 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 41 minutes
13:19:49 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
13:19:49 <trackbot> Date: 30 March 2011
13:20:23 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0127.html
13:20:52 <fjh> fjh has changed the topic to: dap 3279 agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0127.html ; please register Present+ First_Last and update zakim (fjh)
13:21:17 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:21:20 <fjh> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:23:19 <fjh> Regrets+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Laszlo_Gombos, Suresh_Chitturi, Dzung_ Tran
13:23:29 <fjh> Regrets- Dzung_ Tran
13:23:35 <fjh> Regrets+ Dzung_Tran
13:24:04 <fjh> Regrets+ Rich_Tibbett 
13:31:12 <sungok_you> Present+ sungok_you
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13:58:48 <fjh> zakim, code
13:58:48 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', fjh
13:58:53 <fjh> zakim, code?
13:58:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 3279 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), fjh
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14:00:13 <Zakim> +??P1
14:00:20 <fjh> zakim, ??  is me
14:00:20 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
14:00:21 <Zakim> + +329912aaaa
14:00:23 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:00:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, +329912aaaa
14:00:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar, lgombos, blassey, dom, trackbot
14:00:36 <Zakim> +??P4
14:00:41 <cmarc> Present+ Cecile_Marc
14:00:43 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P4 is me
14:00:43 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
14:00:48 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.15.aabb
14:00:48 <Zakim> +??P5
14:00:51 <fjh> zakim, aaaa is cmarc
14:00:51 <Zakim> +cmarc; got it
14:00:54 <Dong-Young> Dong-Young has joined #dap
14:00:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:01:01 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:01:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, +46.1.07.15.aabb, ??P5, [IPcaller]
14:01:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar, lgombos, blassey, dom, trackbot
14:01:12 <darobin> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
14:01:13 <Zakim> +??P9
14:01:13 <jmorris> jmorris has joined #dap
14:01:15 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
14:01:15 <Cathy> Cathy has joined #dap
14:01:27 <Dzung_Tran> Dzung_Tran has joined #dap
14:01:27 <Kangchan> zakim, P9 is Kangchan
14:01:27 <Zakim> sorry, Kangchan, I do not recognize a party named 'P9'
14:01:29 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:01:32 <nwidell> nwidell has joined #dap
14:01:34 <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
14:01:40 <Zakim> + +1.301.581.aacc
14:01:43 <Kangchan> zakim, ??P9 is Kangchan
14:01:43 <Zakim> +Kangchan; got it
14:01:44 <fjh> zakim, ??P9 is Kangchan
14:01:45 <Zakim> I already had ??P9 as Kangchan, fjh
14:01:49 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:01:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, +46.1.07.15.aabb, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, [IPcaller], +1.301.581.aacc
14:01:49 <kyungtak> kyungtak has joined #dap
14:01:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar, lgombos, blassey,
14:01:53 <jmorris> zakim, .aacc is jmorris
14:01:55 <nwidell> Present+ Niklas_Widell
14:01:56 <Zakim> ... dom, trackbot
14:01:58 <Zakim> sorry, jmorris, I do not recognize a party named '.aacc'
14:02:04 <nwidell> zakim, aabb is nwidell
14:02:04 <Zakim> +nwidell; got it
14:02:09 <jmorris> Present+ John_Morris
14:02:09 <kyungtak> Present+ Kyung-Tak_Lee
14:02:11 <Cathy> Cathy has joined #dap
14:02:25 <jmorris> zakim, aacc is jmorris
14:02:25 <Zakim> +jmorris; got it
14:02:27 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:02:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, nwidell, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, [IPcaller], jmorris
14:02:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cathy, kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar, lgombos,
14:02:31 <Zakim> ... blassey, dom, trackbot
14:02:43 <Zakim> + +1.781.312.aadd
14:02:47 <Kangchan> Present+ Kangchan_Lee
14:02:55 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:02:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, nwidell, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, [IPcaller], jmorris, +1.781.312.aadd
14:02:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cathy, kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar, lgombos,
14:02:59 <Zakim> ... blassey, dom, trackbot
14:03:01 <Cathy> Present+ Cathy_Chan
14:03:16 <Cathy> zakim, aadd is Cathy
14:03:16 <Zakim> +Cathy; got it
14:03:26 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:03:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, nwidell, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, [IPcaller], jmorris, Cathy
14:03:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cathy, kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar, lgombos,
14:03:30 <Zakim> ... blassey, dom, trackbot
14:04:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
14:04:28 <sungok_you> I think ipcaller is me. 
14:04:50 <fjh> zakim, [IPCaller] is sungok_you
14:04:50 <Zakim> +sungok_you; got it
14:04:54 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:04:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, nwidell, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, sungok_you, jmorris, Cathy, [IPcaller.a]
14:04:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cathy, kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar, lgombos,
14:04:58 <Claes> Claes has joined #dap
14:04:59 <Zakim> ... blassey, dom, trackbot
14:05:05 <Zakim> -Cathy
14:05:30 <Zakim> +Cathy
14:05:31 <darobin> ScribeNick: cmarc 
14:05:34 <Dong-Young> Present+ Dong-Young_Lee
14:05:36 <darobin> Scribe: Cécile
14:05:41 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
14:06:05 <fjh> Identity in the Browser workshop, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0105.html
14:06:05 <fjh> Opera, augmented reality, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0119.html
14:06:06 <fjh> June/July DAP F2F questionnaire, http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/juljun-f2f/
14:06:14 <cmarc> Agenda: please register your availability for next f2f
14:06:27 <fjh> cancel 27 April teleconference
14:06:44 <cmarc> RESOLUTION: cancel 27 april conf
14:07:17 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
14:07:22 <fjh> Topic: Minutes Approval
14:07:24 <fjh> Approve F2F minutes, 15-16 March 2011
14:07:24 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/att-0097/minutes-2011-03-15.html
14:07:24 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/att-0097/minutes-2011-03-16.html
14:07:52 <darobin> -> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/DeviceAPICharter.html current charter
14:07:57 <cmarc> RESOLUTION: minutes approved 
14:08:00 <fjh> Topic: Charter
14:08:05 <darobin> ->  http://www.w3.org/2010/11/DeviceAPICharter.html ongoing draft charter
14:08:08 <fjh> Current charter, http://www.w3.org/2009/05/DeviceAPICharter.html
14:08:08 <fjh> Proposed charter, http://www.w3.org/2010/11/DeviceAPICharter.html
14:08:09 <fjh> proposed additions, see #2 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0112.html
14:08:11 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aaee
14:08:43 <cmarc> Web introducer : thier is an IPR problem to be in a charter
14:08:54 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:08:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, nwidell, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, sungok_you, jmorris, [IPcaller.a], Cathy, +46.1.08.01.aaee
14:08:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see Claes, Cathy, kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar,
14:08:58 <Zakim> ... lgombos, blassey, dom, trackbot
14:08:59 <darobin> Zakim, aaee is Claes 
14:08:59 <Zakim> +Claes; got it
14:12:09 <cmarc> needto discuss the web introducer, the charter should be proposed to W3C for end of april 
14:12:58 <fjh> we are running out of time, really need to have draft charter from WG in mid april. decision needed
14:13:18 <fjh> probably cannot include in charter if no participation due to IPR concerns
14:13:42 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0112.html
14:14:13 <cmarc> agreeed to remove communication log during f2f
14:14:24 <fjh> also agreed user interaction - vibration, beeps, menus, broken up into separate items
14:14:34 <cmarc> charter has to be changed in that sense
14:15:14 <Claes> Present+ Claes_Nilsson
14:15:37 <fjh> Issue remains to narrow discovery topic or we won't be able to put in charter
14:16:08 <fjh> Robin is looking at this and joined home networking task force
14:16:30 <cmarc> the task force started yesterday
14:17:17 <cmarc> have to be precize about what we want, web introducer different from other discovery use cases
14:17:26 <fjh> Claes is talking with Google and will remind them of urgency of joining wg
14:17:28 <AnssiK> q+
14:17:33 <fjh> ack AnssiK
14:18:17 <fjh> Anssi mentions concern of maintaining focus of DAP wg
14:18:33 <fjh> s/joining wg/joining WG/
14:18:42 <fjh> s/agreeed/agreed/
14:18:57 <fjh> s/precize/precise/
14:19:04 <cmarc> a simple discovery mechanism shoud be the solution, on TV: electroni Program guide, etc..
14:19:19 <fjh> s/etc../etc. discovery is generic/
14:19:32 <fjh> s/shoud/should/
14:19:42 <cmarc> coupling between APi, should be protocol agnostic
14:20:31 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:20:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, nwidell, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, sungok_you, jmorris, [IPcaller.a], Cathy, Claes
14:20:31 <cmarc> we should make sure it does map to "real world" protocols, even decoupled
14:20:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see Claes, Cathy, kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka, ingmar,
14:20:36 <Zakim> ... lgombos, blassey, dom, trackbot
14:20:38 <bryan_sullivan> bryan_sullivan has joined #dap
14:21:10 <Zakim> + +1.425.214.aaff
14:21:17 <bryan_sullivan> present+ bryan_sullivan
14:21:23 <fjh> privacy and the charter ->
14:21:27 <fjh> add explicit deliverable for  privacy REC deliverable with note that this might be taken over by another group
14:21:27 <fjh> 2e) add explicit deliverable for privacy use cases and requirements NOTE
14:23:01 <AnssiK> if the discovery API will get into the revised Charter I'd like to see it loosely coupled from any underlying discovery protocols
14:23:34 <cmarc> have to figure out with gallery
14:23:53 <fjh> sense we can keep it in charter and later not progress if not needed
14:24:15 <cmarc> App Launcher replaced by web intent..
14:24:16 <Zakim> -Cathy
14:24:21 <fjh> decision not to have app launcher listed in charter
14:24:45 <fjh> s/decision/WG has decided/
14:24:52 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:24:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
14:26:02 <Zakim> +Cathy
14:26:16 <fjh> We need to clarify status of Web Introducer and Web Intents in order to have a charter item in this area.
14:26:23 <fjh> s/We/I believe we/
14:27:13 <fjh> Topic: Editorial status
14:27:32 <cmarc> we need to make progress on publication
14:27:43 <fjh> ACTION-343?
14:27:43 <trackbot> ACTION-343 -- Richard Tibbett to propose better wording for System information and events api in new charter -- due 2011-03-02 -- OPEN
14:27:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/343
14:28:03 <fjh> HTML Media Capture, role attribute update (Dom), WD update, then Last Call CfC
14:28:14 <fjh> FPWD of Message draft based on alternative URI based approach
14:28:32 <fjh> await Dom
14:28:39 <fjh> Contacts
14:28:50 <fjh> ACTION-257?
14:28:50 <trackbot> ACTION-257 -- Richard Tibbett to define what goes on for concurrent calls to find() when there is no error callback (and step three also needs to define that); then report to group so we can do the same to SysInfo get -- due 2010-09-29 -- OPEN
14:28:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/257
14:28:53 <fjh> ACTION-271?
14:28:53 <trackbot> ACTION-271 -- Robin Berjon to figure out the event loop stuff for contacts -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN
14:28:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/271
14:29:00 <fjh> ACTION-278?
14:29:00 <trackbot> ACTION-278 -- Suresh Chitturi to propose harmonisation descriptions for Contacts fields -- due 2010-10-06 -- OPEN
14:29:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/278
14:29:11 <darobin> ACTION-271?
14:29:11 <trackbot> ACTION-271 -- Robin Berjon to figure out the event loop stuff for contacts -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN
14:29:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/271
14:29:18 <fjh> ACTION-278: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0128.html
14:29:19 <trackbot> ACTION-278 Propose harmonisation descriptions for Contacts fields notes added
14:29:23 <fjh> ACTION-278: closed
14:29:23 <trackbot> ACTION-278 Propose harmonisation descriptions for Contacts fields notes added
14:29:23 <trackbot> If you meant to close ACTION-278, please use 'close ACTION-278'
14:29:37 <fjh> Robin to talk to Rich regarding ACTION-271
14:29:47 <fjh> Calendar, await Dom
14:30:21 <cmarc> adding notes regarding timezones on calendar
14:30:38 <fjh> s/await Dom/  action done during F2F
14:30:51 <cmarc> action . can be closed .
14:30:51 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - .
14:30:53 <fjh> CfC for FPWD
14:31:12 <darobin> ACTION: Robin CfC for Calendar
14:31:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-376 - CfC for Calendar [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-04-06].
14:31:32 <fjh> API Requirements, Dom
14:31:48 <fjh> Access Requirements Note, published, see http://www.w3.org/News/2011#entry-9037
14:32:03 <fjh> Topic: Feature Permissions
14:32:15 <fjh> Editorial updates and prototyping
14:32:15 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0110.html
14:32:21 <Zakim> -Cathy
14:33:18 <fjh> we have already agreed to have Feature Permissions in charter
14:33:26 <fjh> status - update needed from Laszlo
14:33:30 <darobin> -> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla-labs/browse_thread/thread/e592b27e54b7f857 Capabilities Container
14:33:44 <fjh> s/status/anssi: status/
14:34:39 <Zakim> + +1.781.266.aagg
14:34:41 <cmarc> web notification Working group concerned or not,..
14:34:46 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to bring a Capabilities Container proposal to the WG
14:34:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-377 - Bring a Capabilities Container proposal to the WG [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-04-06].
14:34:49 <Cathy> zakim, aagg is me
14:34:49 <Zakim> +Cathy; got it
14:35:23 <cmarc> Container discussion : there are also discussions about installed web apps
14:35:49 <cmarc> hard to say about what it does: so need for code examples...
14:36:27 <cmarc> are there challenges on this,  face to existing apis.
14:38:10 <cmarc> need some feedbacks, on proposals, from implmentors
14:39:57 <bryan_sullivan> q+
14:40:11 <darobin> ack bryan_sullivan 
14:40:14 <fjh> ack bryan_sullivan
14:40:47 <fjh> we need a proposal on the list so WG members can understand 
14:41:21 <cmarc> need to see what the browsers already do : can send a link on this 
14:42:03 <fjh> Note, clarification of Permissions charter item to include containers might be appropriate for charter draft
14:42:27 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:42:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, cmarc, AnssiK, nwidell, ??P5, darobin, Kangchan, sungok_you, jmorris, [IPcaller.a], Claes, +1.425.214.aaff, Cathy
14:42:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see bryan_sullivan, Claes, Cathy, kyungtak, nwidell, Dzung_Tran, jmorris, Dong-Young, cmarc, AnssiK, darobin, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, sungok_you, Kangchan, JonathanJ, ilkka,
14:42:32 <Zakim> ... ingmar, lgombos, blassey, dom, trackbot
14:42:34 <cmarc> the notion of permissions with user dialog , need to be trusted by the user
14:42:43 <cmarc> with proper permissions
14:42:56 <fjh> Topic: Battery Status Event Spec
14:43:05 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0122.html
14:43:12 <Zakim> -nwidell
14:43:54 <nwidell> sorry need to drop off
14:44:04 <fjh> request for implementer feedback to see if this works and should be progressed as drafted
14:44:13 <cmarc> inspred by device orientation
14:44:31 <cmarc> do we have a garanty to handle shortly ?
14:44:31 <fjh> s/inspred/inspired/
14:44:45 <fjh> s/garanty/guaranty
14:44:59 <fjh> s/shortly/immediately when desired
14:45:02 <cmarc> this is undefined, will be fired when
14:45:15 <cmarc> up to the impleamation for device orientation
14:45:24 <cmarc> for battery level this is less critical
14:46:15 <cmarc> device orientation: only to the window object
14:46:40 <fjh> s/device orientation:/darobin: device orientation, /
14:46:47 <cmarc> battery status of other device : no text to say that it only applys to wndow
14:47:03 <cmarc> if you have a camera separated to the laptop, for example/
14:47:26 <cmarc> ok
14:47:28 <fjh> s/hande/handle
14:47:59 <darobin> robin: problem 1) need guarantee that it triggers the callback immediately upon handler registration, 2) should not be limited to applying to window
14:48:41 <cmarc> remove the limitation that is on device orientation for the battery
14:50:01 <cmarc> next steps  start with that one
14:50:02 <fjh> Anssi will produce draft batter status even spec using ReSpec
14:50:32 <fjh> ACTION-358?
14:50:32 <trackbot> ACTION-358 -- Anssi Kostiainen to provide first editors draft of a Battery status API -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN
14:50:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/358
14:50:35 <darobin> this relates to ACTION-358
14:50:43 <fjh> ACTION-358: problem 1) need guarantee that it triggers the callback immediately upon handler registration, 2) should not be limited to applying to window
14:50:43 <trackbot> ACTION-358 Provide first editors draft of a Battery status API notes added
14:51:17 <fjh> Topic: Network Connection API Spec
14:51:25 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0123.html (Suresh)
14:51:26 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0125.html
14:51:26 <fjh> use cases, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0126.html (Dzung)
14:51:26 <fjh> ACTION-294		Create an editors draft for new proposed network connection API	Richard Tibbett
14:51:26 <cmarc> Suresh is nos there
14:51:30 <fjh> discuss on list
14:51:38 <cmarc> so continue discussion on the mail
14:51:39 <fjh> Topic: Narrowing WebIDL to Javascript
14:51:50 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0102.html (Robin)
14:51:50 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0109.html
14:53:10 <fjh> current syntax will remain good but hopefully simpler syntax will be available
14:53:48 <fjh> Topic: Click on input
14:53:56 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Mar/0111.html
14:54:37 <cmarc> dom3 events will remain specific document, not finished yet
14:55:10 <cmarc> ways to trigger thig on input elements
14:55:27 <fjh> s/thig//
14:55:42 <fjh> anssi: will need standard for this at some time
14:55:48 <fjh> robin: something to be aware of
14:56:06 <fjh> Topic: Privacy next steps
14:56:41 <cmarc> no specific things to raise on this today
14:56:42 <fjh> discussion off list
14:57:30 <fjh> Topic: sensors
14:57:44 <cmarc> just to recap : think about generic sensor api
14:58:06 <cmarc> asking for inputs on this
14:58:15 <fjh> Bryan asking for input on sensors, will share information related to topic
14:59:03 <fjh> Topic: Actions and issues
14:59:21 <fjh> ACTION-173?
14:59:21 <trackbot> ACTION-173 -- Dzung Tran to implement privacy changes noted by alissa, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010May/0072.html -- due 2010-05-26 -- OPEN
14:59:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/173
14:59:28 <fjh> ACTION-202?
14:59:28 <trackbot> ACTION-202 -- Dzung Tran to include changes from ACTION-191 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0253.html -- due 2010-06-30 -- OPEN
14:59:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/202
14:59:44 <fjh> ACTION-219?
14:59:44 <trackbot> ACTION-219 -- Kangchan Lee to make a concrete proposal for AppLauncher -- due 2010-07-22 -- OPEN
14:59:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/219
14:59:47 <fjh> ACTION-220?
14:59:47 <trackbot> ACTION-220 -- Bryan Sullivan to make a concrete proposal for AppLauncher -- due 2010-07-22 -- OPEN
14:59:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/220
15:00:11 <fjh> ACTION-173 closed
15:00:11 <trackbot> ACTION-173 Implement privacy changes noted by alissa, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010May/0072.html closed
15:00:22 <fjh> ISSUE-78?
15:00:22 <trackbot> ISSUE-78 -- Capture has a minimisation problem with EXIF data (e.g. it could be Geotagged) -- open
15:00:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/78
15:01:13 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:01:14 <Zakim> -darobin
15:01:19 <Zakim> -jmorris
15:01:21 <Zakim> -Cathy
15:01:22 <Zakim> -cmarc
15:01:22 <Zakim> -sungok_you
15:01:23 <fjh> ACTION-202 closed
15:01:23 <trackbot> ACTION-202 Include changes from ACTION-191 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Jun/0253.html closed
15:01:24 <Zakim> - +1.425.214.aaff
15:01:24 <Zakim> -??P5
15:01:29 <Zakim> -Kangchan
15:01:34 <Zakim> -Claes
15:01:36 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
15:01:36 <fjh> ACTION-219 closed
15:01:36 <trackbot> ACTION-219 Make a concrete proposal for AppLauncher closed
15:01:41 <fjh> ACTION-220 closed
15:01:41 <trackbot> ACTION-220 Make a concrete proposal for AppLauncher closed
15:01:52 <fjh> ISSUE-78: note already added to document
15:01:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-78 Capture has a minimisation problem with EXIF data (e.g. it could be Geotagged) notes added
15:01:57 <fjh> ISSUE-78 closed
15:01:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-78 Capture has a minimisation problem with EXIF data (e.g. it could be Geotagged) closed
15:02:12 <fjh> ACTION-278?
15:02:12 <trackbot> ACTION-278 -- Suresh Chitturi to propose harmonisation descriptions for Contacts fields -- due 2010-10-06 -- OPEN
15:02:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/278
15:02:35 <fjh> ACTION-278 closed
15:02:35 <trackbot> ACTION-278 Propose harmonisation descriptions for Contacts fields closed
15:02:47 <fjh> Topic: Adjourn
15:02:52 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:02:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:02:55 <Zakim> -fjh
15:02:56 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
15:02:58 <Zakim> Attendees were fjh, +329912aaaa, AnssiK, +46.1.07.15.aabb, cmarc, darobin, +1.301.581.aacc, Kangchan, nwidell, jmorris, +1.781.312.aadd, Cathy, sungok_you, +46.1.08.01.aaee, Claes,
15:03:03 <Zakim> ... +1.425.214.aaff, +1.781.266.aagg
15:03:57 <fjh> Present- [IPcaller]
15:04:12 <fjh> Regrets- Dzung__Tran
15:04:27 <fjh> Regrets- Dzung_Tran
15:04:56 <fjh> s/I think ipcaller is me.//
15:05:25 <fjh> s/minutes approved/Minutes from 15-16 March 2011 F2F are approved/
15:05:47 <fjh> s/cancel 27 april conf/27 April teleconference is cancelled.
15:06:00 <fjh> s/thier/there/
15:06:11 <fjh> s/needto/need to/
15:06:27 <fjh> s/2e) //
15:07:36 <fjh> s/impleamation/implementation
15:07:52 <fjh> s/batter status/battery status
15:08:05 <fjh> s/nos /not /
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15:08:39 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:08:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
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