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13:50:14 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
13:50:14 <trackbot> Date: 24 March 2011
13:50:57 <manu1> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0089.html
13:51:12 <manu1> Chair: Manu
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14:02:17 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started
14:02:18 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:02:23 <manu1> zakim, i am IPcaller
14:02:23 <Zakim> ok, manu1, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
14:02:40 <Zakim> +??P22
14:02:41 <Zakim> -??P22
14:02:41 <Zakim> +??P22
14:02:49 <webr3> Zakim, I am ??P22
14:02:49 <Zakim> +webr3; got it
14:02:51 <Zakim> +??P24
14:02:55 <Benjamin> yes, give me a minute
14:02:57 <ivan> zakim, ??P24 is me
14:02:58 <Zakim> +ivan; got it
14:04:25 <Zakim> +ivan.a
14:05:05 <manu1> zakim, ivan.a is benjamin
14:05:05 <Zakim> +benjamin; got it
14:05:22 <manu1> manu1 has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0089.html (manu1)
14:05:26 <Benjamin> scribenick: benjamin
14:05:39 <manu1> Regrets: Steven, ShaneM, Knud
14:06:04 <manu1> zakim, who is on the call?
14:06:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], webr3, ivan, benjamin
14:07:08 <Benjamin> Topic: RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 2nd Last Call
14:07:55 <manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/products/8
14:12:34 <manu1> PROPOSAL: Close the following issues, official response was sent, multiple reminders to respond were sent to each comment submitter: ISSUE-46, ISSUE-66, ISSUE-67, ISSUE-69, ISSUE-70, ISSUE-72, ISSUE-73, ISSUE-74, ISSUE-76, ISSUE-78, ISSUE-79, ISSUE-80, ISSUE-81, ISSUE-82, ISSUE-84.
14:12:48 <manu1> +1
14:12:50 <Benjamin> +1
14:12:52 <ivan> +1
14:12:53 <webr3> +1
14:12:55 <manu1> RESOLVED: Close the following issues, official response was sent, multiple reminders to respond were sent to each comment submitter: ISSUE-46, ISSUE-66, ISSUE-67, ISSUE-69, ISSUE-70, ISSUE-72, ISSUE-73, ISSUE-74, ISSUE-76, ISSUE-78, ISSUE-79, ISSUE-80, ISSUE-81, ISSUE-82, ISSUE-84.
14:13:31 <Benjamin> manu: next issue is described on mailing list
14:13:38 <manu1> Subtopic: XML+RDFa spec bug
14:13:40 <manu1> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0100.html
14:17:21 <manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-core/#evaluation-context
14:18:31 <manu1> Step 13: the parent subject is set to the value of new subject, if non-null, or the value of the parent subject of the current evaluation context;
14:19:32 <webr3> step 6: "otherwise, if parent object is present, new subject is set to the value of parent object. Additionally, if @property is not present then the skip element flag is set to 'true';"
14:21:39 <manu1> Ivan: The tests are correct and the spec is consistent.
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14:22:44 <Benjamin> rrsagent, make minutes
14:22:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/24-rdfa-minutes.html Benjamin
14:23:29 <manu1> Ivan: Separate concern - do we want to set the new subject to the document for XML+RDFa?
14:23:40 <manu1> Ivan: Concerned about adding this at such a late stage.
14:23:59 <markbirbeck> @manu1 Sorry but had a meeting forced on me. Can keep looking at IRC though, if I can help, or you need a vote or something. :)
14:24:58 <markbirbeck> Ok. Can see screen from where I'm sitting. :)
14:25:38 <manu1> PROPOSAL: XML+RDFa does not assume an about="" on the root element. If authors want to generate a triple, they must explicitly set the subject.
14:25:47 <webr3> +1
14:25:48 <ivan> +1
14:25:49 <manu1> +1
14:25:52 <Benjamin> +1
14:25:57 <manu1> RESOLVED: XML+RDFa does not assume an about="" on the root element. If authors want to generate a triple, they must explicitly set the subject.
14:26:27 <manu1> Ivan: Do we want to resolve the issues that Mischa raised?
14:29:02 <Benjamin> manu: URI references are string sequences of characters
14:29:43 <webr3> URI-ref = ../
14:29:59 <Benjamin> the issue of mischa is: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/87
14:31:00 <webr3> "URI"
14:31:10 <webr3> IRI or URI (no reference)
14:33:17 <Benjamin> manu: We should wait for Shane to be on the call for resolving this, if it is an editorial change.
14:34:03 <Zakim> -benjamin
14:35:29 <Zakim> +benjamin
14:37:48 <manu1> Ivan: This is editorial in my view
14:37:51 <manu1> Manu: I agree
14:37:51 <Benjamin> ivan: The change is editorial, we should leave it to Shane in my view
14:38:40 <webr3> I agree too, editorial
14:39:12 <Benjamin> benjamin: as far as i understood it, it seems to be editorial
14:40:11 <Benjamin> manu: Any other open issues before the second last call?
14:41:08 <Benjamin> the group is not aware of any open issues
14:41:34 <manu1> These are the documents we're asserting should go to 2nd Last Call:
14:41:43 <manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-core/
14:41:49 <manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/xhtml-rdfa/
14:43:47 <Benjamin> manu: Publication date will be march, 29
14:44:24 <manu1> PROPOSAL: RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 should proceed into the 2nd Last Call with a publication date targeted at March 29th with a Last Call period of 3 weeks from the publication date.
14:44:45 <ivan> +1
14:44:46 <webr3> +1
14:44:46 <Benjamin> +1
14:44:48 <manu1> +1
14:44:55 <manu1> markbirbeck, ping
14:45:05 <markbirbeck> Sorry...
14:45:08 <markbirbeck> +1
14:45:29 <manu1> Knud: +1 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0099.html)
14:45:49 <manu1> RESOLVED: RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 should proceed into the 2nd Last Call with a publication date targeted at March 29th with a Last Call period of 3 weeks from the publication date.
14:47:19 <Benjamin> manu: do we have to bupliosh on the W3C blog?
14:47:22 <Benjamin> ivan yes
14:47:31 <manu1> Topic: RDFa API
14:47:32 <Benjamin> Topic: RDFa API changes review
14:48:24 <manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/
14:49:31 <webr3> document.getItemsByType(type)
14:50:01 <Benjamin> ivan: how do i know what types are availlable in the document
14:50:48 <ivan> document.getSubjects()
14:51:03 <Benjamin> ivan: you need a method like that
14:51:18 <webr3> why does HTML not have that? document.getElementByID(id) how do I know the id's ?
14:51:33 <webr3> how do you know which rel's, classes etc?
14:52:25 <Benjamin> ivan: For example I want to highlight the RDF triples in the document. But were do I start?
14:52:57 <webr3> use the RDF API??
14:53:17 <Benjamin> s/were/where
14:54:31 <webr3> document.data.getItemsByWhatever( s , p , o )
14:54:50 <webr3> (leave all null to get all objects) :)
14:55:44 <ivan> q+
14:56:33 <manu1> ack ivan
14:56:54 <Benjamin> q+
14:57:09 <webr3> it's just merging the functions .getItemBySubject(type) and .getItemsByProperty(property, optional value) together though? still cuts in two
14:59:41 <webr3> not the getElements... RDF API doesn't handle them, only RDFa api does
15:00:29 <manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#document-data
15:01:59 <manu1> var obj = document.data.parse("http://example.com");
15:02:08 <manu1> document.data.rdfa.parse("http://example.com");
15:02:26 <manu1> var doc = CreateDocument(XMLHttpRequest("http://example.com"));
15:02:33 <manu1> doc.data.query(...);
15:02:57 <webr3> the keep can of worms closed approach :)
15:05:44 <Zakim> -webr3
15:06:03 <Benjamin> rrsagent, make minutes
15:06:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/24-rdfa-minutes.html Benjamin
15:09:33 <Benjamin> s/bupliosh/publish
15:09:34 <Benjamin> rrsagent, make minutes
15:09:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/24-rdfa-minutes.html Benjamin
15:10:51 <Zakim> -benjamin
15:11:17 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/blog/admin.php?blog=13
15:12:16 <ivan> zakim, mute me
15:12:16 <Zakim> ivan should now be muted
15:12:18 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:12:18 <Zakim> -ivan
15:12:18 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended
15:12:20 <Zakim> Attendees were [IPcaller], webr3, ivan, benjamin
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